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A cool guide to Early warning signs of facism

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Human rights under biden are so great. He's pretty much blown all the potential human rights issues in Palestine.
- You're right. By that single, solitary metric he's not much better than Trump. Luckily most folks realize that leaves a lot of other facets to consider.
  
  Imagine seeing 100,000+ innocent lives as a single solitary metric. The amount of heartless brainwashed simping for a guy that can barely string together a coherent sentence is incredible.
  
  simping for a guy that can barely string together a coherent sentence
  Yeah, Trump's defenders do have a history of doing that.
  
  Trump is an asshole, I have never and will never vote for him. It is mind-blowing how deep they have you people in this limited mindset. It is literally impossible for you to imagine the existence of someone who can acknowledge how awful and unfit biden is and yet not like Trump. They have truly turned your mind to putty to mold what they want with it. At least try to take back your brain from them, it's worth the effort.
  
  It is literally impossible for you to imagine the existence of someone who can acknowledge how awful and unfit biden is and yet not like Trump.
  Cool cool cool... So then I challenge you with this. Try to imagine the existence of people who understand what is bad about Biden, but also understand that any choice other than a vote for Biden is effectively a vote for Trump, and all the additional bad things that come with Trump. You don't have to agree with that position, but please don't pretend it doesn't exist.
  
  It's going to blow your mind, but this is exactly the same mantra that gets belched out every single election. I know it all seems so unique and magical when you first get here, but to those of us who have been here awhile, it's the exact same thing every 4 years.
  
  It’s going to blow your mind, but this is exactly the same mantra that gets belched out every single election. I know it all seems so unique and magical when you first get here, but to those of us who have been here awhile, it’s the exact same thing every 4 years.
  Hey buddy, back off on the condescending old timer bullshit, I still get a hard time from people for my nader vote, which was still not my first (or second) rodeo.
  For those of us who have been here awhile and been paying attention, it seems pretty clear how Trump and his followers represent something different than what has come before. We also remember how Reagan and W upset the applecart without even being as bad as Trump and his ilk.
  
  Who do you think trump's term was so awful for? Is it just that he got abortion passed off to the States? Did he start a bunch of wars like his predecessors? Did he blow the hell out of poor middle-easterners? Nope, the blue team does that. The red team usually does as well, did trump? Nope. The problem people have with Trump isn't the things he did or does. It's what people are so sure he is going to do. I don't like him, he's a prick, i won't vote for him, but this idea that everything the blue team does gets excused and everything the red team does is pure evil is absurd. It doesn't lead to any constructive dialog. It is absolutely no different from the opposing view that red is baked in jesus' oven, and blue is straight from hell. The more people who do this ridiculous extremism on both sides, the worse we all are.
  
  but this idea that everything the blue team does gets excused and everything the red team does is pure evil is absurd
  That's not a position I've taken, and you've been exceptionally rude throughout this discussion. (not only with me) As to the rest - if you can't see what makes Trump worse, there's nothing anyone can say that will change your mind anyhow.
  Good Day.
  
  You'd be amazed you incredibly difficult it is to not hurt the feelings of people completely invested in a candidate. All I've said is that biden is a rubbish choice for president. Part way through our conversation, biden literally agreed with me! You're still simping him!
  
  He fucked up the COVID response so bad that the cognitive dissonance in the country led directly to a undermining of just about every institution that would be responsible for handling it. His embracing of obvious lies in public because they played to his base while acknowledging the truth of those thing in private, creating a dichotomy of response that actually played anyone without their head up their ass directly against those that did, within groups inside his own administration!
  His admin helped facilitate a vaccine he then directly undermined! Then he tries to take credit for that work constantly.
  Like honestly I was almost with you until you said that last bit which is hand down one of the dumbest things in context I've ever seen.
  
  Yeah, his non-existent leadership during that time lead to over a million dead Americans and the worst economic downturn since the great depression. Just imagine if he got out in front of the pandemic by sending out MAGA facemasks to every household in the country... Trusting scientific experts who said facemasks help prevent transmission instead of going on TV and saying he "doesn't think he's going to do it...". From this moment on, our pandemic response was fucked.
  
  Well, let's see. He packed the supreme court so that they would overturn Roe v. Wade once Biden took power without a damn thing Biden could have done to stop them, he managed to politicize a pandemic, he made life hell for anyone who wanted to transition, he used taxpayer dollars to fund his business, he took state secrets out of the white house, he repealed Medicare for All, and you know, I would finish this list but then I remembered I can block you.
  
  They?
  Who's this all-powerful "they" you are referring to?
  
  It doesn't require an all-powerful entity to control people who are ready and willing to act completely in love with whoever you paint a blue dot on. The mindless fools on both sides are not exactly the most clever people alive.
  
  Yawn
- does ANYONE outside of hexbear not ridicule you? this bIdEnBaD argument was weak and pointless the first time some tankie sharted it out of his face anus.
  what do you think is going to happen to palestine if trump wins? because you can bet all your CCCP flags that it'll be exponentially worse than whatever's happening with biden
  
  Yes, I totally get that you imagine that Trump will be worse. In reality, the only evidence we have is that biden is absolutely awful and has the blood of many thousands of children are on his hands. I get that you don't count them as humans because they speak a funny language and are too dark for you, but the whole world isn't a self-centered child stuck in their own little bubble.
  
  nah. you can try to put words in my mouth, but that's a no go with me. how many protesters has biden deported, like trump promises to do? spoiler alert: zero. and that says nothing about what actions trump will actually take to reinforce israel's position
  look, everyone knows what you're trying to do, but you're not getting anywhere. your solutions of either vote 3rd party, or don't vote, or vote for trump, are mind-bogglingly stupid and indefensible. everyone's absolute top priority for the next 3 months should be keeping trump out of the white house. your motive for trying to undermine that doesn't matter, but you really need to come up with better arguments
  
  Imagine someone blows up everyone you've ever met in your entire life. Do they really seem like a saint if they don't deport teenagers who mention it in a land you'll never go to? Speaking of which, do you seriously think trump will have the military deport us citizens for protesting biden's slaughter of Palestinians? What kind of a mixed up reality have they blended your brain into accepting as "obvious" fact?
  It is incredible how they trick people into caring about the absolute stupidest things instead of actual issues. It's like watching a 5yr olds birthday magician convince a bunch of kids that the dove is actually a literal scarf now.
  
  you're trying to defend the notion that a Biden win is the worst possible outcome. there are no words to describe how moronic and wrong that is
  
  I never said that. This thing you people have where you can only see 2 options of absolutely love one side and absolutely hate the other or do vice versa, it's ridiculous and it is seriously scary how predictable and unthought-out it is. You don't have to be black or white. There is room for color and nuance to perspectives. You don't always have to be a good little follower. Think for yourself. Say what you believe. Parroting your teams speaking points is painfully obvious and predictable.
  
  You demand people think for themselves and don't agree with their outcome. People have thought of the arguments you make and they're not convincing. Telling people to "not be a good little follower" when following Biden is the most reasonable outcome given the circumstances is silly given the alternatives involve either voting against your best interests directly or drastically changing the way elections are determined which isn't going to happen 4 months before the election. Give it a rest.
  
  Jeesh, that timing really couldn't have been better. You say there's no way for the ship to turn and then almost immediately biden let's go of the wheel, yells swerve, and dives into the deep blue. Guess what, the ship is changing course 4 months before the election.
  
  Yeah, it's a terrible direction. I don't see a viable path forward for Democrats now. Biden caved to pressure from fear mongers and a Trump win is looking pretty good. If I took your advice I could vote 3rd party and enjoy my smugness while I watch a new fascist regime take hold.
  
  Or you could have spoken your honest mind months ago, and if enough people had done the same, then we could have gotten someone younger than 80 in there long ago. The thing is, so many people mindlessly worshiped biden as a superhero because he wore a blue tie, and that's what pushed him so far along. Honest discourse - get used to it, it helps.
  
  I'm so curious what they will tell you to think now that Biden himself agrees with me. Even biden thinks biden shouldn't be president. What lovely timing for our little conversation here. Have they already told you what your new opinion that you totally thought of yourself is?
  
  Who is supposed to do that? When do I get my sheeple call? Instead of listening to them I should totally listen to a free thinker such as yourself - then I'd be such an independent thinker 🙄
  
  The time is now. The place is here. You will soon be going on and on about how you totally think Harris is such a wonderful candidate, and it's so good that biden stepped down because she is so amazing. Start!

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