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  • Yeah this is a bullshit headline. He said the wrong thing. Just way less concerning than what is implied.

    • Well the headline isn't factually wrong, and no, 99% of any one actually watched the debate.

      The headline was possible because of Biden. And honestly, this wasn't even his worst mistake of the press conference.

      That god-awful final answer.. It was basically him saying he's too arrogant to step down in time for us to get a candidate into place that can win. He's losing in the polling now and refuses to acknowledge it.

      I had him slightly in the W column prior to that final answer. He went back into the L column with that final answer.

    • No the headline is correct.

      Biden walked off the stage and apparently people were screaming Zelensky instead of Putin so then Biden walked back and corrected it.

      • Ah yes, he actually thought that they are the same people and that Trump has actually been his VP. Yep. That. It's not a slip of the tongue, nope, it's advanced dementia. /s

  • To call Zelenskyy “President Putin” at that critical moment was offensive and totally unacceptable.

    Calling Kamala “Vice President Trump” is kind of hilarious though.

    Both of these together paint a troubling picture. Why is Biden confusing people who are supposed to be his closest allies with those who are considered to be his bitter rivals? This was supposed to be his big press conference where he proves he’s still mentally fit to be president, and he totally blew it. Somebody get him outta there, Biden isn’t fit to be president and the sooner we can admit that and move on the better it will be for this country. The gaslighting in full denial of this is incredibly dangerous, and likely driven by whoever it is that’s actually in charge and wants to stay that way (all signs point to Jill Biden, who last I checked was not elected president.)

    Apparently Biden has not had a full cabinet meeting since last year. These are the people who can invoke 25th amendment on him, and it’s looking extremely suspicious all of a sudden that he’s been avoiding them, and for such an insanely long period of time too!

    For those of us who have had to support an elder family member through times of mental decline, the condition is extremely apparent now, and the administration can no longer hide it. Elders often resist or get angry when confronted about necessary changes, but it’s for their own good. In this case, it’s also so we can ward off a fascist takeover of the US. Come on dem leadership, it’s time to actually be the adults in the room and handle this.

    • To call Zelenskyy “President Putin” at that critical moment was offensive and totally unacceptable.

      I think it was funnier

  • I just don't understand the pro-Democrat party crowd's strategy. Why do they insist on keeping Biden as the Democrat candidate when that clown keeps nuking it's own odds of winning more and more everyday with his stupid shenanigans? If the peoples who keep berating everyone to vote for Biden see Trump as some sort of ultimate threat, why do they insist on using a candidate that even they admit is hated by most of his own voter base against Trump? That sound like a terrible strategy to me. Shouldn't they be mad at the Democrat party for taking such risk by insisting on a candidate so widely despised? Why don't they call for a candidate that is actually likely to beat Trump? Why do they keep berating the folks who have made it clear that they won't be voting for Biden under any circumstances when the over 60% of the Americans who don't participate in politics are right there?

    • Because Biden is the consensus candidate of party bosses: he's pro-genocide, militarist to the core and will not upset the bipartisan consensus. If he drops out, someone actually decent might get nominated. You can't have that.

    • I see Trump as an ultimate threat to all sorts of things, and I DON'T insist on Biden at all. I'll vote for a chimpanzee if it's not Trump.

      I honestly feel like not casting a real vote against Trump is voting for our future to be Handmaids Tale and patting yourself on the back for not supporting evil, when for all practical purposes you just did. It's an abdication of civic responsibility in the name of nebulous principals that will have no effect on the future of the world and no chance of playing a real role in meaningful policy, but you do you.

      The fact that the DNC and Democrats in general are a bunch of privileged, out of touch, self righteous assholes is NOT my fault. I hate it and I hate them. But there's a lot at stake and many MORE people in this world will suffer, struggle and die under Trump than under Biden. It's just math and all your ideology is VERY empty in the face of it.

      • I’ll vote for a chimpanzee if it’s not Trump.

        The average American won't though. You have to actually appeal to them or they'll stay home.

      • Then you live in a failed democracy and your only option should be systemic regime change. Viva la revolución.

      • I DON’T insist on Biden at all.

        Maybe not you specifically but I've seen a lot of peoples do.

        many MORE people in this world will suffer, struggle and die under Trump than under Biden. It’s just math and all your ideology is VERY empty in the face of it.

        See, I think this is where we disagree.

        You operate under the assumption that the things that the Republicans want to do couldn't happen under Biden, presumably because you think he would block Republican policies, but knowing what I know about Biden and his policies, his willingness to "reach across the aisles" and give concessions to the right, his tendency to passively letting Republican bills pass without doing anything about it even when he clearly have the power to, his failure/unwillingness to roll back Republican policies from Trump's last term let alone the ones that he expanded instead, etc.... I'm telling you honestly, I don't believe that for 1 second.

        I have not seen ANY evidences that Biden would act against Republican politics.

        Heck I haven't seen evidences that he wouldn't do a complete 180 and start supporting Republican policies that he used to denounce, it wouldn't even be the first time he does it.

        In your arguments in favor of voting blue, you (the peoples who tell everyone to vote blue) always use this assumption that Biden couldn't possibly be as bad as Trump as an axiom, as if it was just obvious, you never bother trying to show that it's true, you never question it, I certainly haven't ever seen any of you questioning it or trying to demonstrate it. You just treat it as some sort of fundamental truth to the point you don't even seem to notice that you are using it sometimes.

        I haven't seen any reason to believe that this assumption is true, on the contrary.

        When I look at the 2 last US presidential terms, I don't see a bad president and a worst president, I see a bad president who tell you that he's gonna to terrible shit and does exactly that and an other equally bad president that pinky promise he wont do terrible shit but then do terrible shit anyways and blames the other bad president for it when he get caught doing terrible shit.

  • Yes, it was embarrassing. As soon as he said it I literally winced in pain. It was bad.

    But. And of course there's a but. He even addressed later in the conference that him misspeaking should not over shadow the results he's getting. And he's getting results.

    Man has stated he's had speech problems loong before he ran for president. Like, still a kid in school stuttering times. He sucks with names. That's an unfortunate fact. But why does that trump (pun intended) everything else?

    • Here's Biden in the 2008 debate against Sarah Palin. https://youtu.be/4Hs7CptPWI4?si=ygyXTtMIiNwfAPYa

      There's no "stutter." He's nailing his talking points, stringing them together fluently. The Biden of today is unrecognizable.

      At the same time, it's not like Kamala is going to beat Trump. And they won't let Bernie get the nomination.

    • That's an unfortunate fact. But why does that trump (pun intended) everything else?

      Like what? His genocide?

    • Because it's clearly more than a fucking speech impediment or random words he misspoke a few times. People have eyes. No amount of spin is going to change the reality that he's an elderly man whose brain is slowly fucking degenerating in real time in front of our eyes.

      • He was right about jobs going up. He was right about strengthening NATO. He was correct about the Border being more secure. He said he wants to fight greedy corporations and scummy land lords. How is all that over looked?

        Use you're eyes to see what he's actually saying. There was 3 or 4 gaffs after a day of talking to other world leaders on major world events. His actions speak louder than words

        Is he perfect, no. Absolutely not. Still better than not only the other guy but any other alternative placed in front of us.

    • And he’s getting results.

      • Growth shatters expectations: GDP expands 3.1% - a year beginning with heavy odds of a recession

        Job creation 40 times rate of last 3 republican presidents - More than double Clinton and Obama

        Black unemployment rate lower under Biden than any other administration (4.7%) - Compared to black unemployment under Trump was 2nd worst number in history, reaching over 16%

        $1 Billion to replace the Blatnik Bridge connecting WI - MN

        $600 million to replace the I-5 Bridge between Vancouver, Washington, and Portland, Oregon, with an earthquake-resistant, multimodal bridge.

        $427 million to establish the first offshore wind terminal on the West Coast, off California.

        $372 million to replace Cape Cod's nearly 90-year-old Sagamore Bridge.

        $300 million for a new container terminal for the Port of New Orleans.

        $95 million to widen a 10-mile section of I-10 through the Gila River in Arizona.

        $142 million to fix the I-376 corridor in Pittsburgh, including an area infamously known as "the bathtub" due to its regular flooding.

        $150 million to reconnect communities divided by the Cross Bronx Expressway in New York built in the mid-1900s.

        Modernizes American port infrastructure

        $3B investment for high speed internet for rural communities

        $623 million to build EV charging network

        Awards nearly $163 billion in federal contracts to small businesses

        $426 million for Northern California offshore wind farm

        Post-pandemics recovery is by far the most successful in the world

        US oil production hits all-time high

        Rescinds Trump-era "Denial of Care" rule that allowed health care workers to deny medical care to patients because of their personal religious or moral belief

        Launches $11 billion on semiconductor-related research and development including $5 billion National Semiconductor Technology Center

        US Trade Deficit With China Narrows to Lowest Since 2010

        $250 million to modernize airports in 37 states

        $4.4 million to upgrade Maine's power grid

        Violent crime drop significantly since 2020

        $5.8 billion to clean up nation’s drinking water and upgrade infrastructure

        Round 15 of student loan forgiveness: $1.2 billion of federal student loans

        Orders cybersecurity regulations for port operators similar to standardized safety regulations preventing injury and damage to people and infrastructure

        $500 million to combat wildfire and improve resilience

        $1 billion deal with Oregon, Washington, and 4 Columbia River tribes to revive Northwest salmon population

        $1.7 billion package to fund initiatives aimed at ending hunger across the United States by 2030

        $1 billion toward cleaning up 110 contaminated sites

        $28 billion towards substance abuse treatment

        $366 million to accelerate clean energy deployment in rural and remote areas

        Implemented new rule that cuts credit card late fees $32 to $8

        Allows student loan borrowers to repay based on income providing affordable payments and eventual student loan forgiveness

        Directs DOJ to issue regulations giving clear protections of sensitive data from access by countries of concern

        Bans asbestos

        Funds program to fund coast-to-coast bicycle path without hitting a road

        Commits $6B to cut emissions from high-carbon industries

        Lends $1.5B to restart Michigan nuclear power plant

        Allocates $750 million for hydrogen research and development

        Restores threatened species protections dropped by Trump

        Blocks mining on more than 221,000 acres of federal land in Colorado

        First National standard ever for reducing harmful chemicals in drinking water

        "Last resort" program keeps tens of thousands of American veterans who were in danger of losing their homes

        America's economy growing at double the rate of all other G7 countries

        Adds Title IX protections for LGBT students, forbidding discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity

        Shields millions of acres of Alaskan wilderness from drilling and mining

        $7 billion in federal grants for residential solar projects serving 900,000-plus households

        Extends rule requiring overtime pay to workers making under $58,000 annually

        Requires airlines to give cash refunds for canceled and significantly delayed flights

        Establishes standards to eliminate emissions from new federal buildings by 2030

        Lays out conditions for national goal to cut emissions from freight shipping down to zero

        Bans most noncompete employment agreements preventing workers from joining competing businesses or launching ones of their own

        Reinstates net neutrality

        Prohibits federally funded health providers & insurers from discriminating on basis of sexual orientation and gender identity

        Canadian Solar, one of the largest solar manufacturing companies in the world coming back to the US, thanks to the Inflation Reduction Act

        Round 16 of student debt forgiveness: Clears $6 billion in debt for closed art school’s students

        In 2021 only three states supplied 12 months of post partum care - Three years later 46 states now do

        Online platforms and social media companies required to report child sex trafficking and online enticement to NCMEC’s tip line

        Bans Russian uranium imports

        $16 billion investments in Historically Black Colleges and Universities

        Round 17 of student debt forgiveness: $7.7 billion for over 160,000 borrowers

        Free online tax filing program piloted this year made permanent and scope will be expanded

        Executive action ordering the closure of border cutting asylum claims in half (according to FOX News)

        Prohibits medical debt from being reported on credit reports

        Pardons US Service Members convicted because they were gay

        Enacts plan to end Parkinson’s disease

        Codifies same-sex and interracial marriage

        Bolsters nation’s nuclear power by speeding timeline for licensing new nuclear reactors and cut fees that companies have to pay to do so

        That's just the past year. Want me to find more for you? Or maybe you can do more research past "he's old!!!1!"

    • His speech impediment is bullshit. Where was it when he was Obama's VP? Where was it in the Senate?

  • There are some situations that you just can't "spin" your way out of

  • If I was trying to throw the election, I really can't think of what I'd be doing differently right now.

    • There's probably more one can do but Biden is clearly struggling to think clearly. It's kinda standard now but ancient Dems clinging to power instead of retiring.

  • who cares; certainly not me. trump is a convicted felon who wants to usher in fascism and destroy the economy.

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