Sen. Mark Warner Forming a Group Of Democratic Senators To Call On Biden To Drop Out

Whoever ends up being the candidate will get literally billions of dollars in earned media by simply “becoming” the candidate. The whole drama of it suddenly engages what is currently a completely disengaged voting populace.

This is the most important bit IMO.

At this point, I don't even think of dumping Biden as just a satisfactory fallback position, but as a winning strategy, and specifically for this reason.

It's not as if Biden suddenly became a weak candidate the night of the debate - he's been a weak candidate all along. As I just said earlier, the only thing that changed with the debate is that more people came to that conclusion.

And all it would take to motivate the base - to get Democrats enthused in a way that they haven't been since 2008 - is to throw open the nomination. That would bring the race a sense of excitement and hope that hasn't just been missing since the debate, but all along.

Edit: downvoted by Russian agents.

70%

I would like to know how they reached to this number.

Because it surely isn't out of all Americans.

Source: nobody polled me or my friends.

Edit: not all Americans, as you claimed in your comment. All voting Americans; and my claim still stands. Nobody asked me or my friends.

Edit 2: The same poll asked if Trump is a liar. Almost 70% said yes. Compared to almost 60% saying that Biden is a liar. I'm very suspicious of polls these days.

Edit 3: to be clear, I also believe that Trump is a liar. Just that the Biden numbers are suspiciously too high.

Is the left in the room with you right now?

There is no left.

Ok, GOP.

There is a point of no return when public reception dictates further action and that preception will not reverse. I hate the idea, as I think history will look very kindly on Joe, and it's terrible what's happening. But, by my estimate we have reached that point.

Isn't he already top 10? But his past administration, vs. him now... I dunno what to think. If he were elected, then his administration could continue, but that's a big "if" at this juncture.

Yeah, and it’s “Hillary’s Turn” 🤮

Scuttling your own incumbent because of his flaws is peak delusion.

Go touch grass.

My problem with the whole thing is there hasn't been anyone stepping up and saying how about me. I haven't seen any mention of any actual names whatsoever.

You gotta decide what else to make before you dump the water.

I could be wrong, idk.

Or, its very late in the game and this chaos causes the dems to splinter, leaving trump ripe for victory.

You act like you know exactly what will happen, when in reality things can end up pear shaped whether we stick with biden or get a new candidate.

Polls and MSM are focusing on biden, allowing trump to gain ground. Whatever is gonna happen needs to happen NOW.

Who though... Comments like this are useless unless there is a valid replacement. So again... Who, or STFU.

Any Democrats who can stand up and show leadership right now stand a very good chance of becoming the most powerful person in the world. Trump is a deeply unpopular candidate. It won’t take much to expose his weakness for what it is, we just currently happen to have the weakest possible candidate. Swap the candidate, adopt the positions of the base, and whoever ends up being the nominee can coast into office.

I think this is rather obviously true. Many on the left have been pushing for a different, and presumably better, candidate from the beginning, so in a way, all that's changed since the debate is that many more have joined them. So really, all the Dems have to do is provide the people with that candidate, and it'll be a runaway.

BUT...

I'm starting to worry that the DNC is going to fuck it up yet again, and specifically because, just as was the case in 2016 and 2020, they're not only going to not adopt the positions of the base, but are going to instead manipulate the process in order to shove another establishment hack down our throats. And quite likely not even just any establishment hack, but the one that's already proven to be even less popular than Biden - Hillary Clinton.

This is a moment for the DNC to get out of the way and let the people come together and choose the candidate they want. That's the exact thing that will motivate the base, and in turn guarantee Trump's defeat.

I'm just afraid that the DNC won't be able to do that - that in their all-consuming self-centeredness and greed, they're going to fuck it up for all of us, yet again.

"Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) is attempting to assemble a group of Democratic senators to ask Joe Biden to exit the presidential race,” the Washington Post reports.

“Warner is telling Democratic senators that Biden can no longer remain in the election in the wake of his faltering debate performance… The Virginia senator has told others that he is deeply concerned Biden is not able to run a campaign that could beat former president Donald Trump.”

In which primary?

People keep saying that while skipping over the fact that Robert Kennedy would probably have been the nominee and defeated Nixon if he hadn't been assassinated in June.

Just vote for Joe and stop killing his incumbent momentum.