What generation are you?
What generation are you?
As a fellow Gen Zer I feel like there is a generational gap. I want to see if I'm trippin or there actually is one.
What generation are you?
As a fellow Gen Zer I feel like there is a generational gap. I want to see if I'm trippin or there actually is one.
Millennial here. My impression is we're the largest generation on this platform, but I could be wrong.
Because every other "generation" is about 10 years and yet somehow "Millennials" are an almost 25 year gap. Notice how it's "Older Millennial, younger millennial, etc". You don't use those qualifiers with the other generations because they are appropriately sized.
Millennials should be 2-3 named generations. It currently refers to 80's kids, 90s kids, any kids alive when 2000 happened, and early Aughts kids(probably because the last name sucked and no one wanted to use it). Too many generations wanted the claim of "I was the first generation of the new millennium" and everyone co-opted the term even when it didn't traditionally apply(newborns because they were closest to the date as opposed to when their major development occured is part of that stretch)
I've only ever seen it include 1981-1996. Gen Z is considered 1996-2009.
Seems like Gen Z should be split between pre-9/11 and post-9/11 in the US.
It's not an exact definition, but below I think is close:
Baby Boomers: Born 1946-1964 (18 years)
Generation X: Born 1965-1980 (15 years)
Millennials (Gen Y): Born 1981-1996 (15 years)
Generation Z: Born 1997-2012 (15 years)
Generation Alpha: Born 2013-present
What you're saying doesn't line up with this at all, but maybe you have other generation dates in mind.
When I was growing up, the definitions kept changing.
I was born in 1986, and while in primary school I was told that makes me GenX. So I grew up thinking I was GenX. Then in high school, my teachers said actually anyone born after 1985 is GenY, so we're definitely GenY.
Then when year 2000 came around people started talking about a new generation of people who would "never remember the 20th century", or "never know a world without the internet", basically people born after 1997 so they grow up completely in the 2000s. They called them Millennials.
From then on the usage of "millennial" kept growing, starting to see it everywhere. Mostly by boomers complaining about millennials.
Around 2012 I stated seeing some youtubers around my age referring to themselves as millennials, I thought it was a joke, or a bad understanding. Then people started referring to me as a millennial. Someone who's whole childhood was in the 90s, how could I be a millennial, it defied the definition.
So I imagine my shock when I find now they've removed all trace of the usage of GenY, and retroactively applied "millennial" to mean anyone born after 1985. So maybe I am a millennial? I remember staying up late to celebrate with my parents and make sure our computer didn't crash at midnight on new years eve in 1999. I remember wondering why dragonballz wasn't on TV when the news was showing footage of American skyscrapers in 2001. Are those the things that make me a millennial? If so then what about the original definition? Those born 1997 or later won't remember those things, so now they're Zoomers? All this business makes me so confused.
I don't think this is correct.
The bit you're getting confused by, I think, is that some generations are just bigger than others. The boomers were by their name sake a big generation. Millennials are essentially boomers' kids ... and so they’re bigger than both Gen X and Gen Z.
Notice how it's "Older Millennial, younger millennial, etc". You don't use those qualifiers with the other generations
Of course you do. I, a young millennial, have a lot more in common with my old genZer sister than she does with a young genZer born in 2011. It's an important distinction because we both didn't get smart phones until we didn't have smart phones until late teens at least, while young genZers weren't even born when the iPhone was first released.
My parents are young boomers. For my dad that means he never had to worry about getting drafted like his older boomer brothers.
Further proving we're all more alike than we think.
Older millennial here. I came here a year ago.
If you ask me, these generation labels are bullshit and just a way to put people into a stereotypical box and make them an "other". Not much better than astrology.
I don't get the impression there are even precise definitions of these generational labels.
And I don't think they make any sense at all outside of USA and maybe west Europe.
It's inherently an american concept, which is what also annoys me as some Europeans have started importing the concept even though it makes little sense (I don't really think it makes sense in the US either but the fact that it is imported is just extra stupid).
I think people just love putting other people in boxes. Consider people complexly instead.
i just wanted to know your age without invading privacy. a threshold is better than a number
Well, in that case, maybe this is interesting to you. I ran a user survey last year for my instance and anyone else wanting to answer and one question was age. Here's the age group graph:
The y-axis is number of respondents, x-axis is age group. Obviously this only applies to the people that responded to the survey and thus might not apply in general to the fediverse, but it's probably an indication. And, well, it's mostly smoothly distributed without any major gaps or humps (slight hump at 30-34 but not sure if that's statistically significant).
This exactly. At the broadest range you can say there are certain qualities that are more prevalent in one age group compared to another age group, but at the individual person level those trends are meaningless. Any individual person can be conservative or liberal, be caring or selfish, be x or y.
They are arbitrary but they at least serve as marking posts for real generational trends. I'm not sure there is much benefit in trying to find any categorization that isn't arbitrary, so long as the generations are large enough.
But but there is difference in advancements, science, tech Also doesn't mean genz= this Millenials= that boomers!= this
Elder millennial here. Born in 1985.
The millennials watched several thousand people die on live television when we were kids and then everything went downhill from there. I was in high school in September 2001. Old enough to just barely understand what was happening, too young to do jack shit about it. Frightened, we looked to guidance from our Gen-X and Boomer teachers and elders. They told us to sit down, shut up, do as we were told, and everything would be fine. By and large, we did. By and large, nothing, not one fucking thing, ended up fine.
I say this to illustrate that this is why, and how, we are the DOOMER generation. We got piled on with the baggage and bondage of manipulation and lies from the Boomers who climbed the social ladder and then pulled it up behind them, and their Gen-X toadies who rode their coattails half way up hoping they wouldn't get noticed and shaken off to land back down here in the dirt with the rest of us.
And the thing that sets the Zoomers apart is that you witnessed this happening, every single crucial step of the betrayal from every authority figure from the president on down to the homeroom teacher, and by gods... You Learned.
Zoomers, in my view, seem to possess a preternatural hyper-awareness that any promise made by anyone who has something they can take from you is good for nothing. Some people say "Zoomers don't give a shit" like it's supposed to be an insult. HA. No. I see what's really happening. They're jealous. Giving a shit was a mistake. It was a mistake we Doomers made. And I am pleased, if not in awe, when I see Zoomers not falling for the bait. You have largely withdrawn yourselves from the rat race, and now it's running out of rats. Maybe now those fucking rats can finally starve holed up and isolated in their mazes. You, meanwhile, may very well build a better way to live. And whether or not I get to participate, I love to see it.
Go get 'em, Zoomers.
dunno man. maybe that hyper-awarness shit is true, but i am overwhelmed by it. i fucking hate this government, the bullshit that they feed us, the lies, the invigilation, all of it. it makes me sick. this world sucks so fucking much and i feel pretty hopeless about it, which is infuriating. i wish i was born earlier
Tell you something homie:
Having no hope is, in my opinion, better than having false hope. You aren't waiting around for some external savior to recognize that you're struggling and swoop in to rescue you. You know that anything you get will arrive to you only by clawing it from the cold dead hands of the elders.
Yeah it sounds bleak but realize this: THEY don't know that.
THEY, those fucking parasite boomers in their ivory towers, think you're just like the millennial doomers who will roll over obediently and then do no worse than look sad and make sad noises when we get cheated ALL OVER AGAIN.
When they turned their back on US, we stayed docile, simpering, begging. When they turn their back on YOU, you are going to stab them thirty six times, slash their throats, and dig out their organs with a shiv fashioned out of one of their precious participation trophies, and eat them raw and howling.
... Or at least some of you will. And I for one hope that when it starts happening, we doomers will either stay out of the way, or for ONCE in our FUCKING LIVES stand up to protect you from the death throes of the worst generation.
You have it in you. It's growing. Keep feeding it.
I'm also Gen Z and this was me for a while as well. Something that really helped me is not focusing as much on all of the million things going wrong that are way out of my control, and taking smaller steps wherever I can to try to make things better. That shift in perspective has made a lot of things more manageable and less overwhelming even if I still ultimately have the same negative outlook on everything that's going on right now.
Yes, watching people die on tv does sound much worse than being drafted for Vietnam or living with the daily thought that Russia had a bomb and we could all die any day.
NOBODY WAS DRAFTED INTO VIETNAM WHEN THEY WERE FUCKING TWELVE DIPSHIT
AND, MOTHER FUCKER, YOU DO NOT GET TO INSINUATE THAT THE "DUCK AND COVER" CARTOONS WERE SOMEHOW MORE TRAUMATIZING THAN CODE GRAY DRILLS, LET ALONE SOME PEOPLE ACTUALLY DIRECTLY EXPERIENCING ACTUAL FUCKING SCHOOL SHOOTINGS
FUCK. OFF. IN. HELL.
at least Vietnam veterans could afford a fucking home when they got back
You know what, STAY fucked off. I don't need filth like you in my feed. BLOCKED.
Generation labels are BS.
At some point, a clever media article increments the previous letter, or since everything was not planned well from the beginning and the letters have run out, stamps a poorly conceived label on a group of people.
These 'generations' are based on ambiguous date cutoffs, are engineered retroactively, and don't really align with any actual zeitgeist of a period. Because discrete vs continuous and other reasons. But any good scapegoat requires a convenient label.
Begun, the generation wars have.
The older generation is blamed for the world's problems since they were 'in charge'. The younger generation is blamed for being impulsive or wild, just not working hard enough, and maybe having too little respect. Also toast wrecks the economy or something?
The older generation is perplexed by the fracas since the people who were actually in power were supposed to be taking care of the big problems, while they were working a job, raising kids, and hoping to retire some day. They had no direct power and could not make decisions of a magnitude that would change much of anything in society.
The younger generation is equally perplexed because they have little money, status, or power, and are also working a job or three, waiting to start a family perhaps, and have often given up on retiring someday.
Everyone has been fed a steady diet of fabricated hopelessness, dysfunction, and outrage from the media for decades.
Only a few will realize the whole 'generation' thing is fabricated to keep you distracted. Who benefits from the scapegoating, infighting, and status quo? Someone is driving it, and benefiting from it, but it is not you.
Vote dammit
Exactly. Also, It's being used as a marketing cohort and therefore to be despised and reviled. In this lexicon, you are the product.
Also, vote, dammit. Unite.
Pew Research Center recently commented on this https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/05/22/how-pew-research-center-will-report-on-generations-moving-forward/
The field has been flooded with content that’s often sold as research but is more like clickbait or marketing mythology. There’s also been a growing chorus of criticism about generational research and generational labels in particular.
Generation gaps are another great way of getting the plebs fighting each other rather than the people who actually run things (capitalists)
Geriatric millennial checking in from 1983.
I like the "Oregon Trail generation" name someone mentioned earlier too, I might lean into that one more in the future. Remember playing Math Blaster on an Apple Mac Classic in elementary school computer lab? Then you were there too!
Same year!
Mavis Beacon teaches typing. BBSs. Cassette tapes with the pencil. I had a Spectrum that used cassettes before I got my Amiga 500.
There are dozens of us!
This one. I was born in 85, but in very poor, very rural Pennsylvania. I describe my upbringing as nearly gen x, with some millenial quirks.
I like to use Oregon Trail generation too. It’s the perfect label for those of us who essentially had computers inserted into our childhoods at some point.
Computers pre-date us by a lot, obviously, but it’s more about the mass market computers (and home video game systems) that normal people could access.
Same
Ditto though '84
Gen X. Aka: The feral generation. We were left to our own devices and most of us turned out fine.
Now get offa muh lawn! shakes fist
Same. Raised on neglect and hose water.
Sorry, can’t stay. The street lights just came on.
That's a great image, love it
You call it feral, i call it free range.
Same here.
You know what's kind of funny. Both my parents identify as Gen X. Both of them are actually Baby Boomer's. With the pre-requisite feral children. But I'm a millennial and it's kind of funny that having grown up basically a feral child my generation doesn't get to claim that.
Huh… I never thought of that in this specific way.
When we were kids, and I was born 1994, our parents both had to work to acquire enough income to afford things, making us rely on ourselves. Parents did not pay that much for babysitters back then, no? And us kids weren’t being watched by GPS or something 24/7.
But it’s a tight window, and it depends on the family how long it stays open. I know some people born in 1997 who are like this, and others who aren’t.
Knowing about 2girls1cup, 1man1jar, that creepy car zombie coffee advert, other shock content… we were desensitised to gore and shock content. We played on MS Paint for hours.
Our parents did not know what we were doing, and it was… I’d say it was good.
Semi-related anecdote…
During the debates my wife made a joke that Biden is so old he’s not even a Boomer. We then gave each other a look and pulled out our phones to check. Turns out it’s true, he is from the “Silent Generation”.
I think most of his cabinet colleagues wishes he would be.
My parents were too but they were anything but. 1920s and 1940s.
Gen X
Generation X here.
Why is your profile pic an outline of me
Haha, I've been using old.lemmy.world for so long I'd forgotten I even had the Space Needle profile on my account. Was truly puzzled for a minute.
"How do they know I'm in Seattle? Oh, yeah."
Generation strange.
Sun don't even shine through our window pane.
One of us!
Xenial, I think it's called. I was the youngest, and I was born in 1983. My siblings are Def GenX, and I never quite identified with that group.
I never quite identified as a millennial either, I'm somewhere in between.
i dont know how its called but my shot would be xillenial
Also dubbed "Generation Catalano:" https://slate.com/human-interest/2011/10/generation-catalano-the-generation-stuck-between-gen-x-and-the-millennials.html
This is how I feel too. 1984 for me.
Same here except a Zillennial. I was born in 97 so I don't really identify with zoomers nor millenials
Gen Z. For once we are a minority on a social media platform that isn't facebook lol
Same, and it's honestly a little refreshing
Memes are lacking though and I finally know why
GEN X. The best gen.
We were nihilists long before the internet proved us right.
Plus we gave you grunge. You're welcome.
well nirvana is my favorite band
I saw Nirvana in '92. It was nothing special, sorry.
Old Millennial.
I grew up without cell phones or Internet until my teen years. Remember watching the OJ trial whenever I was home sick from school.
We were really worried about Y2K, which would have been a disaster if not fixed ahead of time.
Had to work on 9/11, and remember what airports were like before all the added security.
Also had to work - pushing groceries to people's cars while the VA sniper was rolling around the area shooting people in parking lots.
I remember people smoking cigarettes fucking everywhere. There were cigarette vending machines.
Our 2 and 3 liter bottles had an extra plastic piece to make the bottom flat. I don't think they were making them with feet like they do today. The bottoms were round, requiring a plastic shoe to create a flat bottom. Sometimes the bottles had a metal cap.
Hardly anybody wore seatbelts. Gas was under $1/gallon when I started driving.
Slightly younger old millennial.
Bacon used to be just about the most expensive meat you could buy.
Bill Clinton tried to kill Osama bin Laden.
Terrorists were angry leprechauns who had been abused by centuries of British oppression.
Russia was kind of cool for a little while.
This is me.
Parents are baby boomers but had me really late. I used to watch Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in my Super Mario themed tightey whitey underwear when I was like 4 years old…
I remember in my small town leaving the house on my bike when I was 5 years old at sun up, and being gone playing with friends until the street lights came on, because that was when dinner was ready. I could easily have killed myself or been kidnapped, my parents didn’t see me for 12+ hours at a time.
I’m from Oklahoma and I remember the walls of my schools Gym shaking from the Murrah Federal Building bombing.
I was in Middle School and remember lots of high schoolers having gun racks, with hunting rifles, in their trucks parked in the student parking lot. And it was normal.
I was in A+ classes at a community college while in high school and watched a live stream of the TODAY show as the second plane hit the WTC tower…
I’ve watched the world go to shit, I have a kid that just turned 18 and I’m angry that they won’t get to live in a world that even resembles the one I grew up in.
I’m just fucking angry.
I'm early Gen Z with a kinda poor family. So I had CRT's and old VHS but also grew up on the internet.
I feel an extreme gap between me and people a few years younger. I graduated in 2018 so I was some of the last people to have a traditional highschool experience. Before Covid, Zoom, and Chatgpt.
I also mostly grew up with computers instead of phones so Im only just now getting into TikTok, I'll likely never truly revolve around it like many others (both older and younger than me).
Im only just now getting into TikTok
Please don't, for your own health's sake. There is nothing of value on that platform.
There's plenty of value on there! For the CCP, but still.
Born during the very last month of the previous millennium, but I don't know what generation that is.
If you weren't old enough to understand what was happening when watching the twin towers fall and grasp the gravity of it while it was happening, you're a Zoomer. (And that's a good thing)
Young millennial here. My first memory relating to 9/11 is vaguely being told it was the anniversary of some event that happened the previous year in 2002.
It really wasn't (at least not directly—the aftermath of it certainly was) the big generarion-defining thing Americans like to think it was. The impact on global diplomacy (not least of which is the Iraq and Afghanistan wars), the increased security theatre when travelling on planes. That's certainly a defining generational experience. But the event itself is much less so.
Some of them are alphas (?!)
zillenial
Nope, full Gen Z.
The coolest one . . . . Gen X.
Nice try fed, won't get me on a census that easily
Elder millennial here
Eldest of millennial.
I voted for 'generation crash and burn' but it got cut off on the print out, so...
I’m right there with you.
Elder Millennial as well, sometimes referred to as a Xennial.
One month earlier, and I would be the tail end of GenX
Well I have kids your age, so a literal generation gap? Yes.
I think Lemmy has age diversity, more so than other platforms.
i mean, its a good thing
Early 90s millenial here. I remember the wild west internet days. Left Reddit because it does not serve the interests of its users anymore.
As a fellow Gen Zer
Fellow to whom now?
not you
Obviously
'93, younger end of millennial.
Not big on generation labels though, they feel like a failed experiment. People are born every day of every year and our experiences overlap in a gradient. They don't separate into distinct portions.
The baby boom was an actual phenomenon, but every label afterwards feels arbitrary.
I agree that it's not a useful metric to apply to an individual. "Ok boomer" aside, there is too much variation within a generation for it to be a useful way to draw any conclusions about a single person.
Where generations are useful is in demography. There is no strict dividing line between a lot of kids of demographics, but categorizing them can still give us useful data for studying populations
I'm gen X. I definitely feel that Boomers are from a different world. I felt we got a shit deal but that just got worse for millenials then gen Z. To me, I feel like I can relate to generations that followed me. They're pissed off and they should be.
Gen X / Xennial, analog childhood, digital adult hood.
Xennial. I'm X depending upon which number you use as the cutoff (the '80 definition vs '82 definition)
x
This generation.
points vaguely at everything
I'm not dead yet, AFAIK.
Generation 4, Diamond was my first and my best friend had Pearl
Serious answer, I'm on the border between millennial and gen z
i dont get that reference, sorry
It's Pokemon games.
As @Zagorath mentioned, its a pokemon thing. Those happened to be the current gen game when I was of the age of interest in them.
Hey, fellow gen4 here !
...are we about to kiss?
Gen Z.
This place is a lot older than I expected.
Internet generation, progenitors of current online brainrot. Came too early to experience the 90s in all its glory, and too late for running console-quality games on a 6mm thick mobile device.
At least we have the 2010s to claim for ourselves. Those were pretty cool.
Very tail end of Gen X.
Same. I like the term "Xennial" for those of us who were born I'm the early 80s. I definitely feel like I am both X and Millennial sometimes.
Literally dozens of us
Generation Tamagotchi
Kinda youngish Boomer; 67 y.o.
Millennial
Gen X
I hate these generational divides. Are we really supposed to think that a person from 1982 and a person from 1994 (both millennials) have more in common than a person from 1994 and one from 1997 (one millennial and one zoomer)? It makes no sense.
If I had to answer, I guess the closest would be Zillenial: born around the mid 90s.
Millennial, the one that ruined everything.
Xenial
Gen Z.
Don't care about generations too much. It just creates (often false) stereotypes, like any groups of people.
Early Gen X. Just gotta say, the term.baby boomer was tossed around when I was younger but I never heard the term generation X until the 90's, maybe late 90's.
Hello fellow kid. I remember Pepsi Generation and MTV Generation. But you're right, Gen X didn't start in earnest until the 90s, I'm pretty sure.
Fun fact, Generation X originally applied to Boomers.
As Millennial as Millennial can be, smack dab in the middle of the cohort.
Gen X. The generation that couldn't be arsed to programme the video recorder or cooker digital time-clock, but knew how to.
There were a lot of power cuts in our (UK) youth and we remember saying to ourselves, "Ok, so that's how it's gonna be, huh?!". Still kicking arse and taking names.
We were the grown-up's TV remote control, with our 1200 bits per second magnetic tape storage for BBC B home computers (from the later ARM boys), before we got 360kB 5" floppy disks.
Tech doesn't phase us (yet); AI is a better average conversation than a spouse.
We X's were born into the analog world and grew up as the digital age started to emerge. We have the luxury of knowing both.
Also Gen X UK person here, I remember in the 90s when that hurricane made it over from the US, and we had no power for 9 days.
My dad went full survivalist, we ate nothing but baked beans cooked on a camping stove, and he got this portable black and white TV from somewhere that we could watch for an hour a day because it ran off a car battery lol.
Greetings fellow traveler! [I'm an early model X - late sixties].
Are you taking about the Michael Fish, 'There isn't going to be a hurricane.' blunder? Sevenoakes became Oneoak! 1987 perhaps? I really don't remember that, would you remind me, please?
I'm talking about the 1970s strikes which cut power to the whole country for sets of three or four days; Ted Heath being reacquainted with the role of the electorate before they all became Tony Blair-esque dopey smiling useless clones in 1992 ish (until we found out about Major-Curry (hehe!)). Going shopping with candles on trolleys, thawing food in the freezers.
Miellenial, right in the middle
Boomer!
SOONER!
Elder millennial
I'd be cautious that behavior, common experienced events, technology shifts, etc define categories and not the other way around. If the boundaries for generations are arbitrary then inclusion is just as arbitrary and not defined by behavior since behaviors can spread across multiple labels. We all want to belong, but tribalism can be a useful tool to divide humanity against itself. Historic generation labels where distinct boundaries can be observed and defined in an historic context makes sense to me, contemporary generational labels seem like divisive nonsense to me.
I'm right in the Millennial/Gen Z transition, mid 90's. I struggle to associate strongly with either group as I missed most of the important Millennial stuff but I was too early for a lot of zoomer stuff.
I think this would work better as a poll. If you make one please let me know!
does lemmy allow polls?
Young millennial. And yeah, I think it’s not the most stark and clear cut, but older millennials had hope once it was just dashed upon adulthood, gen z grew up with everyone getting that they were hopeless. Us young millennials though, it was awkward as a 13 year old trying to explain to my parents that I was doomed.
But I definitely have more in common with someone a few years younger than me than several years older
I consider myself an older millennial as people born until the late 90’s are still considered millennials.
No clue. Everyone called me a millennial until they started calling me gen Z.
I'm on the cusp of genZ and Millennial, but I feel much more Millennial. I speculate that this is because of how I related to technology growing up.
I'd be interested to hear from anyone who is like me, on the cusp, but feels gen Z rather than Millennial, and why
That might be me. I'm a millennial by age, but I have always been keeping up with the newer tech. My father worked for Microsoft so we always had the new stuff as soon as it was available. And I'm a weirdo little autistic trans girl, so I didn't really socialize that much with my own age group even when it was an option.