Explain that, science nerds!

This is why I detest the concept and celebration of “technically correct”. No, it’s not the “best kind of correct”, it’s being an asshole.

I dunno, maybe. I mean, technically they were right but even when I agreed, and explained how while that’s correct it’s also beside the point, they didn’t like that either.

¯(ツ)/¯

It's not even pedantic. It's that same logic you could use to say killing a person does no harm to them because their body still exists afterward.

Basically it's due to the heat, acidification of the ocean, and the massive drop in oxygen production as the ocean acidifies.

Most of the oxygen we breathe is produced by microorganisms in the ocean and as the ocean gets more acidic (from absorbing CO2 from the air) and hotter (from greenhouse effects) it makes it harder for those little fellas to survive. And when they die their impact on our breathable air goes away. And if course the stuff that's eats those organisms no longer have food and due off.

That's not even mentioning just the heating from greenhouse effects making unlivable temperature conditions (humidity + heat = unable to cool down and overheat) more likely to occur.

All life wouldn't perish per se but the current complex animals we have (and us humans) would be greatly impacted to say the least.

Because the threat is not a nuclear winter. It’s the disruption of all environmental systems that regulate the planet that is the threat in question. Which, in turn, disrupts the food chain, which starves whatever requires that food, which is for all intents and purposes, all life.

I don’t understand how this is such a conversation with so many people here.

Why would all life perish?

All life wouldn't perish, the only things that will be left will be certain bacteria, phagocytes and viruses that can tolerate and indeed will likely proliferate in extreme environments. Everything larger then that will die of starvation due to a cascade of failing systems, likely starting with the death of the marine biosphere when the temperature rises to unsustainable levels and/or the pH lowers too much for the same effect. Though of course no one really knows what will actually happen because there are too many unknown variables.

Depends on if you work outside for a living or live near a coastline or a forested area. It won’t be like a Star Trek: The Original Series where everyone’s in a big room and a red glow starts pulsating and we all groan and crumple to the floor. No, it won’t be like that.

It’ll be like heat exhaustion exacerbated a hitherto unknown heart condition that deaded you. Or a Cat 6 hurricane rolled a tree over you. Or failing crops mean you couldn’t fight off COVID-26 or whatever.

No, we’re not going to all die at once, as such. Depending on your timeframe for “at once”.

. . . the planet and life itself will survive . . .

How are you defining “life itself”?

. . . and probably even be better off without humans.

I’d say that goes without saying.

Humans are causing the next extinction event and afterwards life will just start fresh again.

Start “fresh”? Like with single-celled organisms? Maybe a billion years later we’ll be back eating sandwiches? Okay, so what process created sustainable environments again? Humans left some sort-of-permanent damage. Nuclear waste, PFAS, etc. Sure a good ol’ pole shift and a few asteroid impacts and we’re back in business.

So no, saving the planet is not the goal. Saving humanity and most of all other current life is. And if that’s what you want to accomplish then that’s what you should talk about, specifically.

God this is fucking exhausting. The prevention of unmitigated and prolonged suffering by all sentient life is the goal, YES. Kudos to the possibly viable future space rock and the wisdom to acknowledge our utter inability to protect one single planet from ourselves is laughably inadequate and - CLEARLY - irrelevant.

Willfully misinterpreting what people say is a dick move. You're apparently proud of being a dick.

Likely as slimy mats on the floor of what's left of the ocean. Also whatever's left in hot-springs and caves.

Ughhhhhhhh.

Life existed long before there were any significant levels of oxygen in the air. I doubt humans can undo much of the ~20% oxygen level that exists today. And I think that's reason enough that life even bigger than microbes won't die out.

sigh

Yes.

‘Everything is doomed’ is epic and has charm, but ‘humanity is doomed’ moves you to action.

Okay. I mean. Whatever gets the action i guess.

Epic and has charm?? I don’t . . . Its . .

Is that what you kids call 'it' these days?

(I know, I should really get out more)

Also, nobody is gay on Venus because Venus doesn't have rainbows.

Wait a minute, Venus sounds like the perfect place for conservatives! Elon, get your starship up and running and take all your buddies and musketeers to Venus! Please! I promise all liberals will stay here.

no one in venus ever had cancer

“If we stopped testing right now, we’d have very few cases, if any.”

-Donald Trump Venus

Wrong Venus I'm afraid.

I had to double-check to make sure; but no, it isn't.

https://xcancel.com/JunkScience

Me too, haha. This is what happens when you treat arguments like chess pieces and not, you know, reason. I don't believe this guy has any idea what he just said. I also don't think he cares.

trick question. you can't die on venus if your body is dissolved by the acid-mosphere and your space craft implodes from the atmospheric pressure.

And bones!

Like Hitchhiker's guide...is it safe? Oh yes it's safe but not us.

BUUUTT, you are able to exist there.

It would most definitely kill you.

Could you define “good”

From. They all had to leave

I'd have to actually search his name then, right?
I don't know who this person is.

True, but I often feel like people use Poe's law as an excuse not to engage mentally. It's really uncharitable, actually.

Like, I can hold the view "is sincere" and "is sarcastic" in my mind simultaneously until something confirms or denies one.

And it's not like it matters that much. If he's sincere, I'll say "wow, that's crazy, " and if he's not, I'll say "wow, that would be crazy."

[e] Just to clarify, I see now he's a Fox news contrib. So, he's paid to be nuts.

Ignobels had or have a different goal.

Did you know that you can do a web search on somebody's name and find information about them? Like this article.

In addition to being a Fox News commentator, Milloy is a lawyer and lobbyist with close financial and organizational ties to tobacco and oil companies.

Milloy disputed second hand smoke is harmful and considers climate change a hoax. He also claimed the studies of harm from DDT, global warming, Alar, breast implants, ozone depletion and mad cow disease are false.