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Motherboards and systems with China's Loongson CPUs now shipping to US customers — options start from $373 for a DTX board with processor and cooler

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Motherboards and systems with China's Loongson CPUs now shipping to US customers — options start from $373 for a DTX board with processor and cooler

www.tomshardware.com /pc-components/motherboards/motherboards-and-systems-with-chinas-loongson-cpus-now-shipping-to-us-customers-options-start-from-dollar373-for-a-dtx-board-with-processor-and-cooler

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This is not a good deal. First of all I highly doubt this mobo and CPU will be Windows 11 compatible so you're out of luck there. For $373 you can find an AMD Ryzen 5 7600X and mobo combo deal that will vastly outperform this Chinese CPU. Also AMD's AM5 platform is DDR5 while this Chinese CPU and mobo combo is DDR4. $373 is a ridiculously non competitive price.
- Who the fuck uses Windows 11?!
  
  Me 😢
  I have a critical work app that will not run in wine or with proton.
  I’ve even contacted the devs and they suggested trying to run the android version on Linux, but it doesn’t work either.
  
  I have several for work that will likely never work in Linux.
  So those have a nice little VM they sit on, which has been stripped bare of the nonsense. Remote desktop access enabled, and I can do what I need whenever.
  
  That’s pretty interesting, but it’s a meeting software. So I’m regularly sharing my screen and sharing files. So I need to be in the os. I’ll just key checking it every time a roster counts out for proton or the app I use.
  
  That's crazy, most meeting software I've seen is cross platform and have web clients.
  
  I know, it’s exactly how I feel about the situation.
  They are going to release a new version with monetization soon. Maybe that will be a big .0 release and maybe there will be a Linux version.
  
  Ah, admittedly I avoid that problem entirely, I have an MTR, a ZR, etc running on devices here (hardware/software testing stuff), so I don't need to run meetings on my desktop often.
  Edit: Just to note, I've done USB passthrough with VMs that were ZR builds and such, so that can be done. But I think if your sharing from there it can get messy (USB video capture and such as your sharing method, so on).
  
  So stream your desktop to the VM?
  
  To share the bigger picture, I’m using this app 99% of my working hours. So it doesn’t make sense to do it this way.
  I’d be better off just working out of the vm but due to performance loss and dealing with passing through usb I just use windows.
  Although, outside of work I use Linux.
  
  What is the app? You may need to install libhoudini (libndk if you have AMD processor) if it the app is arm only. https://github.com/casualsnek/waydroid_script
  
  The majority of businesses and a lot of consumers. 46% of steam users. Few years it'll be the majority.
  
  46, goddamn
  
  I do, I've been trying to get off it and onto Bazzite but I tried to do a test run by installing it on my laptop before my pc and the boot loader won't pick up the usb 😔
  I don't feel comfortable doing it on my pc without first seeing it work, so it seems I'm stuck on windows
  
  Everyone.
- No Intel Management Engine though.
  
  Is that a bad thing though?
- This is not a good deal. First of all I highly doubt this mobo and CPU will be Windows 11 compatible so you're out of luck there.
  That's a feature lol
  For $373 you can find an AMD Ryzen 5 7600X and mobo combo deal that will vastly outperform this Chinese CPU
  Really? I'm actually asking because I don't think you can get the amd combo you mentioned at that price. Also, we'd need to confirm the specs and performance. So far it would be just speculation
  
  Really? I’m actually asking because I don’t think you can get the amd combo you mentioned at that price.
  Without even trying... https://pcpartpicker.com/list/msJQ6D
  This is not even the lowest you can go, as I wouldn't get an A620 mobo. Also not a recommendation, just first three components I found.
  BTW, afaik this is a MIPS CPU, with proprietary ISA. Who would want this other than the Chinese government exactly?
- Give us some links for combo of motherboard, CPU and fan. I assume it needs a fan.
  
  Here:
  https://www.amazon.com/AMD-RyzenTM-6-Core-Mortar-Motherboard/dp/B0C1P856RB/
  https://www.amazon.com/PCCOOLER-Paladin-Nickel-Plated-Anti-oxidant-Protective/dp/B0CN66YDXT/
  CPU + Mobo combo plus a CPU cooler which adds up to about $381.40 which is $8 more than Chinese CPU + mobo combo. I think that's close enough to be within the margin of price fluctuations. That AM5 mobo comes with four memory slots, PCIe 4.0, USB 3.2 and Wifi 6E. Those features may be worth extra $8 for some.
  
  Bundle List Price: $498.99
  Not even close.
  
  Total is $398 bundle with lower end fan. It is comparable.
  The choice will be driven by hardware characteristics for me. Power vs performance questions. If performance is roughly the same, then I will prefer lower power consumption.
  
  That's not a MSRP. You can't compare a deal to MSRP.
- I think what people here miss out is that it's not meant to immediately become a retail choice.
  First, some specific industries might be interested, then others, then, maybe, common consumers.
  
  This Chinese CPU and mobo is not meant to compete against Intel or AMD based system. This 4 core CPU is probably comparable to 2019 Intel or AMD CPU at best. This CPU meant for two markets, domestic Chinese consumers and Chinese government. The west sees China as emerging threat so they've been blocking lot of chip manufacturing tech and high end GPUs used for AI. The Chinese government wants to be less dependent on western technology and build their own domestic CPU. Also Chinese government may be paranoid about Intel IME and AMD ST spying on them so this CPU would alleviate that worry. Clearly it's not meant to be sold in mass to western consumers. If I had to guess actual competitive price of this CPU and mobo combo is around $150 at the most.
- You shouldn't compare retail prices with deals. Go compare it to AMD MSRP.

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