Yup. They just want a single day to enjoy the beach and feel safe and not be judged.

The internet loses its damned mind

I don't really want to get into it, but, we have campaigns that actively target people who smoke and/or drink. Two other things that people can indulge in that can and will eventually lead to negative health effects and kill you, much like overeating will.

I'm not porposing or defending any approach here, where do you draw the line between the decision to address the underlying issues and catering to creating isolated environments to shelter the marginalized groups, tho?

I get that taking a breather in a safe environment to help with self-esteem and love is critical so as not to sink below that threshold of constantly feeling overwhelmed that is different for everyone, and I'm in no way seeing a one-day thing as anything else, but as public coordination events, how do you draw the line between the two I mentioned above? First example of going beyond giving breathing room to making a segregation comes to mind as the "pink buses" in which only women are allowed to be feel safe from men that some right-wing politicians bring up from time to time as a similar topic on addressing the cause vs treating the symptom or even causing different problems under such intention.

Does Hashimoto's disease actually cause obesity? Feels like a lot of people blame thyroid diseases for issues that are actually mostly under their control.

In the grand scheme of things, weight is a physics problem. I seriously doubt that outside of extreme cases that someone would be obese solely from hyperthyroidism.

You're right there are so many things that are not in control and it's not easy. It might not just be a thyroid issue that is causing it, but it doesn't help matters any. Many people have hashimoto's and are thin.

They are nearly normal already but that's just a measure of how many people are obese.

Too many of them think that you can bully a fat person into losing weight.

Fat-shaming is definitely an issue across the political spectrum, unfortunately.

Not being extremely mobile or having chronic pain does not require you to eat more calories than you burn. I have a torn disc and take nerve meds so I obviously don't lift weights or run like I used to, but Im allowed to moderate my calorie intake.

Age and a slowing metabolism are more pernicious, but even those things don't "force you to eat more calories than you need". Nothing is forcing anybody to do that.

But I never brought up the idea that people are being forced to eat more calories; you did.

I explained how medical conditions, health, and mobility are intertwined with calorie intake and expenditure and that it's a common problem.

Have you tried recumbent bicycles? they are a lot easier on my lower back, and there are some real fun designs out there like trikes that could make bicycling a reality again. Or swimming, when I hurt my knees and couldn't run/bicycle without pain, I started swimming laps, and holy cow is that a lot of exercise if you're not used to it.

Additionally, refined sugar is addictive. I know my previous comment might lead you to believe I have no sympathy for wider folks, but I truly do. I've lost 100lbs over a year once. I gain back when I go through periods of depression, and then I force myself to lose weight again. Over last holiday season I was separated from my family and spent it entirely alone. I gained about 25-30 lbs. Since then, I've restricted my calorie intake to around 1200-1500 calories a day, with around an hour of exercise also each day. I've lost ~25 lbs since starting that in March. I know how hard losing weight can be. I'm also a (former) addict, so I know how hard quitting something that's ubiquitous throughout society can be (alcohol). But it can be done. Sugar is addictive just like alcohol is, which is why Jenny Craig modeled her fitness groups after AA.

The problem is that losing weight is uncomfortable at first. You're hungry because your stomach is all stretched out, despite taking in enough calories for the day. It takes time for your stomach to shrink to the proper size, so for the first couple weeks, you'll be eating all your body needs, but it will feel like you're not. and it's uncomfortable. Weigh this discomfort against all the discomfort that being overweight has constantly provided, and decide which one you'd rather live through. The temporary discomfort of feeling hungry and not knowing what to do with your hands after you're done eating for the day (and only for the first couple weeks of dieting), or the constant discomfort all over your body and in your own mind, every day that you're overweight.

Just because something is harder to do, doesn't mean not doing it is okay. Overeating when overweight is abuse, full stop.

There are people that have a harder time quitting smoking, there are people that struggle not to cut themselves.

Nobody should look at an 8 year old with a cigarette and say "it's probably just genetic." Nobody should look at a junkie passed out in an alley and say "yasss, they're just living their truth!" Nobody should be incensed when they go a hospital complaining about abdominal pain and the doctor recommends they remove a piece of rebar they fell on.

You don't have to exercise to lose weight, you don't even have to drastically change your diet.

Eat. Less.

You can lose weight on a diet of pizza, donuts and laying on the couch if you simply eat less calories than you burn.

You quite frankly sound like one of the many enablers that wants to make every excuse possible about why it's impossible to lose weight rather than taking responsibility for the countless poor eating decisions that lead to obesity. No one is born fat and no one wakes up fat, take responsibility.

I agree with you, being someone who has fought with his weight my entire life. The excess calories are there to fill a need, with mechanisms similar to substance abuse or gambling addiction. "Just stop eating too much" can feel like an unachievable goal.

Any weight loss of an obese person should be combined with psychiatric care, because if you don't identify WHY you are eating so much, you might just trade one addiction for another one.

Whats wrong with being a dick? None of us would be here without dicks. Say no to dick shaming. Dick pride.

Great in theory, but fat people will always be oggled at and judged for their size. All this will do is make a big spectacle and draw attention to those who really just want to be left the fuck alone to live their lives.

Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the price that ANYONE pays going to the beach? Generally, you are wearing more revealing clothing, or more accentuates your body parts (wet swimsuits do not hide much). So everyone can be ogled, in fact in my experience from my youth having lots of teenage boy friends, the more slim or conventionally attractive people tend to be ogled much more than those who are not.

oh look it's one of the three conservative jokes.

Should probly identify as an attack helicopter that hates his wife, make this comment the trifecta of dumbfuck.

This isn't even a "tolerance as a social contract" moment, because avoiding reading the comments section on a controversial topic is in no way intolerance anyways.

I'm a larger person. I definitely want to lose weight and get in shape, but it's that hurdle of getting over your own self that's the hardest part for me.

I know that once I get into a rhythm and habit, it'll be fine and I'll even like it at some point, but I can't really get myself to start, even though I know I need to.

Also, I actually like that Walmart has the "sensitive" shopping hours.

One of my close friends from college went deep down the fat acceptance rabbit hole shortly after college. I had to unfollow her on social media. She went from being a slightly overweight girl to a morbidly obese woman. She had a podcast she'd promote saying things like it's ok to eat cake for breakfast if you want it; weight is just a number and all kinds of asinine things.

My weight has fluctuated over the years, but any time I'm putting on weight, I know it's unhealthy and I need to start going to the gym and eating better. Seeing her posts would drive me up the wall. She had one where she said something about how the gym is toxic, and you're just fine the way you are, and you can be healthy without exercising. She also was selling some plus size clothing pyramid scheme and claimed to be a model for the company. I don't think it was a defense mechanism, just another ridiculously bad side effect of echo chambers on social media.

The last part of your comment is a mystery to me. Where exactly did I imply the industry should be allowed to do whatever it wants?

It kinda is for the children of fat folk

Compared to America, Europe might look socialist. I assure you it's not.

Lol yeah idk what the hell they're on about.

Don't tell idaho, their bars will have a "Super awesome straight skinny guy beach days" every Saturday...