Happy Juneteenth everyone!

I'll take both
Why are we getting weird and territorial about cheese and pasta?
- Because if we don't separate everything by race, how can we hate each other effectively? We must attempt to make people feel bad or excluded for our differences!
  
  White people then: eradicate african cultures White people now: stop exluding us from african American culture you racists!
- Because it's Lemmy
  
  Forget it Jake, it's ~~Chinatown~~ Lemmy
- Yeah man, both at fine. I’ve had some great 4-cheese homemade mac’n cheese that doesn’t turn out too dry, but that seems to be the rarity.
- How else can we keep racism thriving?
- Yeah why are white people in this thread so goddamn triggered over what they claim to love?
  I've never met a white woman who wouldnt say the stuff on the right is the best she's ever had but had never had the the stuff on the left.

President’s Day
- I maintain that Mac and Cheese is one of those foods that weirdly gets better the worse and more fake it is.
  Ive had some gourmet shit and I always think "I miss the old Kraft one with the tinned cheese."
  
  Sounds like Stockholm Syndrome.
  
  Cause you're tasting that sweet, sweet nostalgia.
  I'd bet if you gave someone that's never had Mac and cheese before Kraft Mac vs a good gourmet Mac, the gourmet will win by an absolute landslide.
  Cheap Mac and cheese isn't good because it's good... It's good because of the old memories attached to it.
- I do love the hot Chetto flavored Mac and cheese
- I've had a box in my cabinet for a couple weeks, gonna make it now thanks to you.

- Bottom one is Wilford Brimley and Dr. Robotnix's son.

Good meme! (I have no clue what any of it means other than the dates)
- Juneteenth celebrates the abolishment of slavery, I'd say people of colour are the most happy about that, and people of colour are stereotypically famous for making good food
  4th of July celebrates the US independence, which though not a predominantly a white holiday more white people (on account of being a racial majority) will celebrate it, and white people are stereotypically famous for making bland food
  
  Idk man French food is pretty good
  
  This seems pretty dumb... I don't typically attribute amazing Mac and cheese to minorities.
  Like... Most other foods, sure. But this one? Come now...
  
  and people of colour are stereotypically famous for making good food
  Can't say I'm familiar with that stereotype as it relates to black Americans. Immigrant minorities, sure.
  
  I don't think the meme itself is making that particular distinction, moreso just the difference in cuisine in general as a racial stereotype.
  
  people of colour are stereotypically famous for making good food
  The stereotype I always saw was just KFC, watermelon and some purple drink. Maybe it was a bit more aggressive stereotype than what you had in mind
  
  White => English
  All whole people from anywhere else is proud of their food
- Independence day == shitty
  Junteenth == based
  It's dumb.
  
  I assumed it was: "typical black family Mac and cheese" (baked, delicious)
  "typical average American Mac and cheese" (not baked, more saucy, delicious)
- Juneteenth does not celebrate the abolishment of slavery. It celebrates the news arriving in Houston. New Jersey had slavery six months after juneteenth. Also it only freed men.
  
  I have never seen anything that says the Emancipation Proclamation or the 13th Amendment only freed men. Do you have a source for that?

Mac and cheese casserole is almost always inferior to the cheese sauce variety. The best versions meet in the middle, but I absolutely hate that eggy cheese quiche shit.
- Macaroni amd cheese is nothing but kmart Carbonara.
  
  If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike

4th of July is only better for me because I don't get Juneteenth off even though I work in a school. Fucked it is!
- This year was the first year I worked in an office that didn't recognize Juneteenth. Someone still found a way to complain about people expecting Juneteenth off work and blamed Zoomers for it becoming the norm like it's a bad thing
  
  Gosh dang zoomers expecting nationally recognized holidays off, like this is the 20th century or something. Next they're going to expect clean water, and acceptable working conditions.
  
  My current company is the first one that does recognize Juneteenth as a holiday, so I assume I have a much longer work history than you.
  I’m still not used to it existing so it totally slipped my mind and I would have accidentally come in to work, except one of the overseas guys pointed it out
- Same, I don't understand how schools can weasel their way out of federal holidays so easily lol.

Why are we comparing two unrelated holidays like this

- This. OP probably has an antifa flag and speaks on behalf of Black America.
  And he's anglo as anglo can be.
- Southern food is great because Southern white people have a different set of culinary influences than northern white people. I don't know what that influence might be, but it must've been huge.
- My wife is white southern and is passionate about black culture Mac n cheese
  
  Liar liar pants on fire. This is not a, "black culture mac n cheese". This is straight up southern style mac n' cheese.
- Apt user name 😂
- I don't think the point of the meme is that Mac n cheese belongs to black people. It's that GOOD Mac n cheese belongs to black people. Maybe you didn't notice, but the Mac n cheese on the left looks how it should while the one on the right looks like watery stoffers. If you didn't notice, I'd say the meme is pretty accurate.
  
  Fuck off with this racist horseshit.
  
  So "homemade" vs "frozen?" Homemade mac and cheese is a black thing, and white people didn't eat it before freezers were invented? TIL.

All you're doing is comparing southern style mac n cheese vs basic everyday fast mac n cheese. It's not even a race thing...
- Yeah I don't understand what the point of this post is. Maybe they just like Juneteenth better as a holiday?
- I cannot speak to macaroni pie directly, but you'd be surprised by how many things considered Southern are straight out of Africa for reasons that should be obvious.
  
  Pretty much every culture that has some form of cheese and processed grain has mixed them together and bake it apparently lol. I wanna try and make pastitsio now
  
  That may be true, but I'm only talking about Southern style mac n' cheese.

I like flaming Hot Cheetos pasta
- The Hague would like to know your location.
- Oh baby
  
  Is that a real thing or a joke I'm too European to get?
  Where can I get this if it's real?
  Where can I just get Flamin' Hot Cheetos? Because they don't sell the damn thing in my country :(
  Yours sincerely,
  flaming anus enjoyer
- Jesus christ kill this one with fire
  
  Is this the origin story for Flamin' Hot Mac and Cheese?

Mmmm, cheese leather...
- What if cheese, but it was brittle and sharp?
  
  In my mouf pls
  
  Umm, yummy tbh, but that sounds a few steps beyond leathery. I don't usually associate "brittle" and "sharp" with "leather". "Chewy" totally. "Tough", maybe.
  
  Aaaaaaaah

I love this.

I don't get Juneteenth but I didn't have to, it doesn't affect me. Although personally I think the name is weird - it's definitely grammatically incorrect. But whatever, y'all have fun. I like Mac'n'cheese though.
- It's a celebration of freedom? What's there to get?
- @Dozzi92@lemmy.world
  It's just the "Nine" in nineteenth (a word that only has long vowels) replaced with June. June 19th turned into a single word. It specifically celebrates the day slavery was abolished in Texas.
- My only gripe is I can never remember the number, and there are several teenths. I'm bad with dates. July 4th is idiot proof.
  
  Yeah, One of the vendors I work with emailed me to let me know they'd be off that day and I had to look it up. It would have been the same if it was called abolition day or something like that but there's something a little annoying about the fact that they made it halfway with putting the date in the name.

Both of those look disgusting. And I like Mac n Cheese.
- Cheesy Mac ( the microwave shit) is not Mac n cheese
  
  Mac and cheese is all macaroni cheese pasta.
  I don't think I've ever eaten microwaved Mac and cheese, don't wish to try. If that's what those photos are, then obviously disgusting.

Damn Juneteenf sucks

As a European: why would you do that to food? Also is that even actual cheese?
- Ah yes, the smug European that has no idea that macaroni and cheese originated in Italy in the 14th century, was extremely popular in England from the 18th century, and was introduced to the US via France.
  And yes, it’s cheese. Probably cheddar. You start with a bechamel and incorporate cheese to make a mornay sauce. Combine the sauce with the pasta and serve.
  
  No. Combine the sauce with pasta, put it in an oven proof dish and grate extra cheese on top. Put in the oven until the topping is browned and bubbling. Then serve. (Also, add a bit of mustard to the cheese sauce, it perks up the flavour.)
  
  No probably with mac n cheese. Mild problem with processed cheese but if actual cheddar is used, that’s fine.
  What I do have a big problem with is kraft mac n cheese mix. Got my hands on an American pack of it and it was disgusting. Tasted like I had just drenched the macaronis in weirdly sticky butter.
- Don't bother, obese lemmings will expell their fury at you for making fun of the beloved cheese slop
- Go eat some plain pumpernickel if you can't handle actual flavorful food.