Not The Onion @lemmy.world RobotToaster @mander.xyz 9mo ago

Photographer Disqualified From AI Image Contest After Winning With Real Photo

petapixel.com Photographer Disqualified From AI Image Contest After Winning With Real Photo

The photographers strike back.

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The turns! They tabled.
Disqualification seems appropriate. If it is against the rules to use AI photos in a normal photo category and the winner gets disqualified for that, which has happened, and it is against the rules to use a non-AI photo in this category, then the person should similarly be disqualified.

Not sure if the person behind this actually made the point they thought they were? Because it just shows that being consistent in rules and disqualification is good and the contest was consistent.
- The stated point listed in the article was to prove that manual photography has merit and that 'nothing is more fascinating than Mother Nature herself', which he proved by winning the people's choice award. He didn't say the disqualification was inappropriate nor did he criticize the contest for inconsistent rules? It seems quite clear that he expected to be removed from the contest after making his statement, actually.
  
  Personally I hope this doesn't become a trend of machine generation and manually shot/created work spoiling each other's contests.
  
  So, does that mean that AI photos have merit when they win photo competitions, as has happened in the past? Seems like the point he was trying to make would go both ways.
- You're right. I'm trying to figure out what all the controversy is in this. I'm not seeing anything.
- Did you even read the article?
  
  Did you? It seems to me the above commenter summed up what has happened quite correctly.
  
  It'd be nice if you actually pointed out what in the article contradicts their statement.
  
  This is Reddit 2.0. So, no.
EVP of Samsung, Patrick Chomet, recently said that "there's no such thing as a real picture". So this artist should object to the disqualification 🙂
- how can pictures be real if cameras aren't real?
  
  Picture of a bird, no less. Nothing is real!
- I'm also pretty sure the camera does use some ML algorithms in processing of the pictures, so it is an AI by today standarts.
AI photographer seems to me like an incredibly bizarre title
his entry has been disqualified in consideration for the other artists.

What artists? The ones who’s photographs have been scraped from the Internet with no consideration or credit to provide free artistic labour to techbros and companies?

Or the talentless hacks who think asking a machine to draw them a picture holds the same merits as creating the image themselves?
- who’s photographs
  
  'who is photographs' makes no sense.
  
  Whom's*
  
  Gottem!
  
  That’s what you’ve taken away from this thread? A spelling error? You’ve got nothing to say on so many topics, except for the pedantic correction of minor spelling errors or word choice.
  
  Argue my point, not my grammar.
Man bites dog.
I mean I feel like this is the same as entering a soap box derby and coming to the race with a gas-powered go-kart.
His statement is so weird. No one said there is no merit in "real" artists. AI just makes it easier for non artists to add pictures into their projects. Like every industrial revolution it just takes work off of us.
- I would love for robots to take over the boring jobs like making art, I think it's a great advancement that our overlords have engineered for us. Now we can get back to things we really enjoy like shoveling shit and suffocating in mines.
  
  Thank god they didn't make robots more useful for everyday life tasks, freeing up a portion of the day. I have a hard enough time deciding what to do with my free 25 minutes every week as it is.
  
  Got to go, my mining shift at the shit factor.... Never mind they made robots to mine shit now, guess I'll go starve to death in line waiting for free bread crumbs.
  
  Software to "make" 2d artistic images is much easier to develop than robots to do household tasks. Not that we don't see advancements there either, for example robot vacuums are becoming more commonplace.
  
  Robots and automation have been cutting 'mundane' jobs for literal centuries.
  
  Artists are frankly out of touch and callous when they imply other people's jobs should be replaced.
- Or you could just... learn to draw? Sure it takes a while to learn, sure it takes a lot of time to make things, but it genuinely is worth it for the journey alone.
Just let the AI be the judges. I think it's bullshit that's not how it works
- ... do you think AI is...?
Sounds to me like the right thing to do would be disqualify the winner and cancel the category entirely.
- What's the point?
  
  The artist proved that right now, AI art cannot compete.
  
  If a horse wins an auto race, don’t give a prize to the #2 motorist.

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