7mo ago

Netherlands allows Ukraine to strike Russian territory with its F-16s

newsukraine.rbc.ua Netherlands allows Ukraine to strike Russian territory with its F-16s

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So is Ukraine supposed to micromanage how each piece of equipment is being used based on how each donor country feels about attacking Russia?
- Yes. They sold the equipment under stipulations on how it will be used. If the US just gives Ukraine massive long-range offensive capabilities then Russia will treat that as a declaration of a proxy war and may attack US forces elsewhere. Or escalate in other ways. No one wants a desperate Russia. They want Russia to spend itself to death, again. And die like it did in the cold war.
  
  Thats just the excuse, Ukraine has not declared war on anyone despite Iran, North Korea and China providing weapons to Russia. Russia just likes to rattle and make noise and the wst constantly walks on egg sells.
  
  Yeah, that's what the rest of the west want, but Ukraine just want to punch Russia in the face and send them packing. They don't have the people or morale for a full-on meat grinder war over the next decade.
  
  And die like it did in the cold war.
  Except it only appeared to die. Ukraine gave up its nukes in the 90s on the belief Russian aggression had “died” in the cold war.
- Unfortunately, yes. I assume a substantial portion of their military budget goes towards coffee and headache medication for the logistics department
- Also, how is Russia to know which bit of equipment is attacking them, and where is it from?
  
  Inventory Numbers, same reason we can identify us bombs used on civilian targets in Israel.
- Yup. It’s like Vietnam, but instead of the VC in the bushes it’s the Russian army.

Sounds good, but they first need to actually deliver the jets, because this is otherwise pointless.
- "You can use our F-16s to attack deep in the russian territory."
  "Great! Where are the F-16s?"
  "We will give them to you."
  "Alright. We'll be waiting."
  jeapordy theme plays
  "Theres no F-16s coming, are there?"
- It’s much easier to just say bold shit for PR

Good for the Netherlands.
- They remember MH17 and are clear on who the enemy is.
  
  Except for the whole new largest party being pro putin thing whoops

F-16s have so many strings attached that I'm surprised they haven't been literally copied or pirated lol.
They don't like giving AMRAAMs either.

Isn't that usually in the discretion of the country that built the fighter? E.g. the US? Usually the US has the final say on whether a fighter they sold to a country can be resold, and I find it weird that they would then allow the Netherlands to do something like that without their approval.

When the Imperialists take a nuke in their ass they will cry
- Well, you did use the word “the” correctly so I’ll give you that

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