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If autism gave you super-intelligence with quirky social deficiencies everyone would want it.
But that’s not how it works.
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It kinda is. At least for some of us. It's more like super-intelligence about an incredibly narrow topic that probably doesn't matter. Some of us win the lottery and our special interests align with something in the world that capitalism values highly. Like one of my special interests is computer science, math, and logic. So I'm good at programming. Some people with autism have a special interest in one obscure comic strip from the 1930s, which makes it hard to get a job that they can succeed in.
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Some people with autism have a special interest in one obscure comic strip from the 1930
To be fair, Nancy is kind of a whole mood.
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Is it super-intelligence or just the natural desire to just consume stuff about a topic?
I don’t have Autism, but I do have ADHD and I am just gifted with an innate curiosity to learn new things which can seem like I’m intelligent, but honestly I have no control over it. I could spend a week learning about how the brain works and it will be all consuming, then all of a sudden I have zero interest in it.
This means I have a rudimentary understanding of so many topics, but rarely will I master any one of them.
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Yeah, for me I think it's less about "being more intelligent" as a general and more "I learned way more about (X) because I was hyperfixated". I think that's where people get mixed up. It's not a generalized boost to intelligence so much as spending way more time studying something than a normal person would because brain tickle feel good. People only see the result of that
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Ehh… thats why we don’t often mention the Autism HUD. Once the neurotypicals find out about it everybody going to start wanting it. Fortunately everyone who uses Lemmy is an Autistic Femboy Linux user.
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We should probably keep Lemmy a secret, too.
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Identic memory doesn't require autism and can very well make you seem hyper intelligent when you're just remembering shit.
Intelligence, to me, is defined as on the fly problem solving and improving. You can't always remember a solution to a rapidly changing problem.
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That’s true. I pretty much agree with that assessment of intelligence, a high generalist knowledge along with good problems solving skills; though I have to concede that specialist knowledge or other ways of expressing intelligence are valid as well.
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I think "intelligence" is definable as "computation that we don't understand yet".
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Intelligence, to me, is defined as on the fly problem solving and improving.
Nah, that's genius.
This is why we struggle so much with a definition of intelligence; it's a complex, multifactorial thing and everyone understands something different in it.
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Can I still do a 30-day trial, or.....
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Yeah. Instead of quirky social deficiencies, it’s horrifying irreconcilable social deficiencies.
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- You can just gaslight yourself into liking math, by finding easy to understand material on math, then working yourself up from there, but that requires like Bene Gesserit levels of understanding autism and especially your own autism, and a lot of support from your parents (which is usually the bane of many autistic talents).
- You can still get good at e.g. making stuffed animals, which you can always upgrade to making fursuits to get a lot of money.
Also remember that a lot of these "anti-savant" sentiments originate from autism moms, and they often like to claim most autistic people are like at Chris-chan levels of talent at their special interest/craft.
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According to TV, autism either enables the universe's developer mode, or makes you proclaim your profession, loudly and repeatedly, when your flaws are pointed out.
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I dunno about that. But I'm not so sure, as a software engineer. Btw I'm a software engineer - never really thought about that. As a software engineer and all. Software. Engineer.
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I'm specifically referring to this scene from the same show.
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This is Abed erasure
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I think Abed has developer mode turned on, given he built a holodeck and has contact with other timelines
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I AM A SURGEON! I AM A SURGEON! I AM A SURGEON! I AM A SURGEON! I AM A SURGEON! I AM A SURGEON! I AM A SURGEON! I AM A SURGEON! I AM A SURGEON! I AM A SURGEON!
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Hey look its my modern meltdowns but instead of yelling "I am surgeon" its just me sying "fuck off" in the most monotone voice I can pull off.
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I mean, those are just the overt ones. Plenty could be midly autistic and you wouldn't really know.
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Y'all didn't know? Autism turns on debug mode irl.
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Autism enables the source code HUD, but it only shows each chunk after you figure out the assembly.
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We're quite the little pattern recognizers... but watch out.
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My dyslexia lets me see ghosts of old Union soldiers. Coming this fall to CBS
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They help you read so you can solve crimes. They don't provide any insight related to their civil war experience or anything, they're just like an EA
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FUCK I got the "Beat Donkey Kong Country 3 over and over again" Autism instead of the Medical HUD Autism
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I thought I gave the game away when I physically moved stuff around the HUD with my hands. These guys just put it in a TV show!
Well I guess I should just come clean here, this is what ADHD super focus looks like too. Complete with transparent windows so we can layer them and see in 3D.
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I’m autistic and my mental processing is visual. It’s a lot like that actually.
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Ye old "Mind's Eye" seems to vary person to person rather than correlating with level of neurotypicality. IDK tho, maybe some studies could show the truth.
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It’s actually not like this very much, because these things always just show images floating around.
In reality the images are changing constantl, and it’s not images you could capture with a camera. It’s abstract shapes that constantly shift according to rules I’ve programmed in for how they’re allowed to change. As they go through changes they implicitly calculate logic and other mental computations. At the very end if I want to tell someone what I’m thinking, I translate it into words so I can say it.
It’s more like a circuit diagram mixed with a fractal mixed with MC Escher drawings, than others is like images of documents and photos floating around in a screen saver pattern. Like a physical computing machine being simulated in my head.
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Is this how people without internal dialogue think, with internal hud
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For me, it's just content, logic. Not like we can represent logic outside of math (which is more like a language to me, exhausting). Images is for remembering scenes.
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What show is this?
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My daughter used to watch it. I think its The Good Doctor.
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The American adaptation of The Good Doctor in particular, which ended recently. I know both those bits of knowledge largely against my will.
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The Good Doctor, a show about a surgeon who is fighting his Hollywood Autism, complete with all the stereotypes, and trying to get through life and career at a hospital. Plays very hard into the "idiot savant" trope.
It seems like an ok show from the bit of season 1 I watched, but then I had an Autistic kid and learned I was Autistic myself and had a deep dive into Autism life... And yeah it does a pretty poor representation of it and I don't think I would want to go back to that show by this point.
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My ADHD version very similar to that.
Although, on mine, if you actually read any of it, none of it's even remotely related to what I'm trying to figure out. It looks like it is but this is a lie.
Its not even like I'm thinking of lots of different things. Its just junk.
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What HUD?
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The one that pops up when you're talking to someone: the floating translucent panel with dialog choices.
... Do you not have one of those?
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Heads up display. Like when a videogame shows you your HP and quest markers
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