1y ago

finally there is a perfect monitor for Java programmers

Programmer Humor @lemmy.ml

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Program in assembly, 40 columns is plenty. You just need an awful lot of rows.
- Same monitor, just rotate it.
  
  If you don't use a vertical monitor I don't consider you a real programmer.
- We need the same monitor, vertically!
  
  The Samsung 55" Oddity in 'cockpit' mode has you covered.
  
  Just think of that hurt my neck. Imagine have to constantly look upward.
- As someone that first learned to program in 8008 machine code, you aren't really wrong, but formatting is and always will be for the weak.

I have a monitor that's almost like this and it's surprisingly nice. It feels like a two-monitor setup. Two actual monitors would probably have been cheaper, but I got mine from work, so it wasn't a factor.
The real advantage of having two actual monitors is being able to flip one vertically for reading code.
EDIT: a word
- Everyone at my work who has this runs into issues whenever they need to share their screens, apologizing for low resolution or painstakingly resizing every window to mimic multiple screens anyway.
  
  I just share one window at a time. I put the meeting on one half and the window I want to share on the other, which makes it 16:9 and works perfectly for what I need to share.
- I bought one after some months of remote work in 2020. Then when I started my new job they gave me another one (different manufacturer but exact same panel size). I needed to rearrange my desk a lot, but holy shit so much room for error messages!
  Yes, I'm a Java developer ¯(ツ)/¯
  
  It was either that or a C++ programmer. Those template error messages are gnarly.
- The real advantage of two monitors is that you can turn one off if you don’t need the full 50000px width.
  
  As far as I'm concerned the advantage is I can have three windows (or three editor views) tiled horizontally and each one is the perfect width. A half width (half of 1080p/16:9) is too narrow and a full width window wastes space, but a 2/3 (of 1080p) width window is about perfect. If I tried to do that with two regular monitors, the middle window would be split across the bezel.
  *When I say 1080p, I really mean the aspect ratio. My monitor is effectively a double width 1440p monitor, but with the display scaling I use the space is effectively 1080p.

Jfc. Do people really write code like this? I’ve been writing code in Java for 15+ years and have never seen anything like this.
You need more skill, not a wider monitor. SMH.
- Hello world in Java:
  java
  
  class 9-A { public static endangered therefore protected final void main(String[] args) { System.prepareTheOutputBufferForPrintingAsTheNextStatementWillDoSo(args); System.in.out.in.out.shake.it.all.around("Java is a programming language " + "invented by the intelligent monkeys " + "working at Sun Microsystems."); return void; // duh! } }
  
  ROFL you’ve proved my point. Just because Java gives you an opportunity to hang yourself doesn’t mean you should or have to.
  You took one line of code and turned it into a novel. Bad programmers do this and then ignorant folks blame it on the language when it’s really just a lack of knowledge/skill.
  
  I get making fun of java's verbosity for things like checked exceptions but hello world really isn't that much worse than most other languages especially considering all the "boilerplate" is required for any program more complicated than hello world in pretty much every language. But if a useless program really is too verbose for you see java 21.
  undefined
  
  void main() { System.out.println("hello world"); }
- Yeah, you never see this in enterprise settings. Sure builders or streams can get a bit long but you just pop each .x() on a new line.
  And when they're on new lines intellij has a cool feature where it creates a little UI only comment next to the line showing what type it returns.
  
  In an enterprise setting we'd definitely create a method in that object what would have that chain in it, and call that instead... It seems like it's used over, and over again.
  Anyhow, we're sitting here trying to make sense of something that obviously some sort of joke haha.
  Man we're such fucking nerds.
- Somewhere someone probably does... But this piece of code really look like someone either tried to inline a bunch of calls or this is code generated object mapper from json or other nested model.
  Nobody with a sane mind and serious attitude will use this code as a "real" code. (I still believe in people, despite all the evidence to the contrary I get every day)
  As a fun bit though this taken some dedication.

Is this a good thing I’m looking at or a bad thing? I don’t get it but then again, I’m not a programmer.
- Java is a programming language that is notorious for being verbose, the joke is that you need a massively wide monitor to view it without the text being cut off
  
  Ah, thanks for the explanation!
  
  I don't understand why people don't break stuff like this up with newlines
- The joke is Java is verbose. It takes many characters to accomplish simple routines. Depending on your view that could either be good or bad for reading the code later.
  
  Sure, but most of the lines in the screenshot break down to:
  object1.setA(object2.getX().getY().getZ().getI().getJ().getK().getE().getF(i).getG().toString())
  Aside from creating a method inside the class (which you should probably do here in Java too) how would another language do this in a cleaner way?
  
  Got it! Thanks for the explanation!

Had an ultra wide for a while, went back to 2 27" monitors after 2 years. 2 monitors is more convenient imo. I can flip one vertical whenever. Less fiddly to have multiple things open at once. One is centered while the other is on the side and angled, much nicer way of separating what's my focus. Easier to screen share. I always found the curve distracting for text.
- The ultra-wide's big appeal is definitely more for gaming than programming.
  
  I have a 49" ultrawide, running a tiling window manager under Linux.
  I heavily utilize virtual desktops in my workflow. Always 10 on each monitor, accessed by Ctrl-{0..9}. Switching between monitors by AltGr+{1..n}. Programs always stay on the same virtual desktop no, so terminals on 2, browsers on 3 and so on. This enables me to access more or less any window in under a second, never having to look for it visually.
  I usually work with 4 or 5 24" monitors, as a single program seldom needs more space for me. What he ultrawide brings to the table is the capability under Linux to create arbitrary virtual monitors.
  I can for example have two evenly created monitors (two 27"). My usual for development is three, split as 2:3:2.
  Another possibility is using a small script that analyses movie resolution and creates two monitors, one with the exact aspect ratio of the movie, eliminating black borders, and another for using while watching said movie :)
  As Linux sees them as separate monitors, I can also have easily managed screen sharing.
  Having the flexibility of software defining my monitors has been great as a developer; separation of many, screenwise often small, applications is highly useful to me. A couple of quick scripts to switch between different setups has integrated it nicely into the workflow, and I usually changes monitor config at least a couple of times per day.
- I use a Ultrawide as my main monitor, a 1440p vertical one on the right and 2 portable 15" 1080p under the Ultrawide.
  When I need to share, I share one of the 15". I keep my notes and the call on my Ultrawide. I think it's a great setup.
  But if you don't want as many monitors, for sure 2x 16:9 is much better than 1x 21:9 or even 1x 32:9.
- You might have just saved me a heap of money.
  Screen sharing would suck with an ultra wide.
  
  It does, but it depends on the tool. Zoom lets you simply draw a rectangle which will be shared, I typically select 2/3 of my screen. It's great when all have the same screen though.
- I set up my wife with a single 39" ultra wide instead of two separate monitors and it lets you use two cables so each half of the display acts as it's own unit. Then it's like having two monitors without a seam in the middle and doesn't take over the whole desk. I use two 43" 4k monitors side by side in the same way as you though and definitely prefer that.

You're dangerously close to the edge there bud, what's your plan B when that starts to overflow huh?
- Buy a second monitor with the same space

...and that, kids, is why java has this thing called imports
- Imports wouldn’t help. It’s setters with a ton of chained getters
  
  Mostly they're all the same up to the last one or two methods - just set the common part as a variable?

LOL, that said. The BEST thing I ever bought when WFH started was a 4k monitor.
The extra screen real estate is amazing

Is he using VScode?
- no, he's using a very old version of IntelliJ Idea
- Looks like something JetBrains

Type aliasing in java could have saved us from the current pixel shortage, but at least kotlin is giving us a cheaper path forward.

Oh come on, first time I actually want someone to post a link for an “ad” and not one in sight
- I'm using this one, highly recommend it! 240hz refresh rate, HDR, perfect for coding and gaming. Don't know if it's the exact same as the one in OP's pic, but same concept for sure.
  https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/49--odyssey-g95na-gaming-dqhd-led-monitor-ls49ag952nnxza/
  
  I've bought one and sent it back again. I felt like I'm not utilizing most of the space since I had to move my head too much to see windows on either side.
  I'm now using two 4k Screens. In in the middle and one to the side, but rotates by 90 degrees. Can recommend that. Though for gaming... I can imagine it there.
  Personal preference I guess.

that's some serious chaining lol

AbstractInitiatorFactoryDelegateVisitorFactory

For java programmers afraid of explicitly allocating any varables

Damn it hurts my eyes. I don't like when verbose languages require such long lines, it feels uncomfortable.

What Dart looks like when written by ActionScript programmers
- I used it with the default formater built in lsp, and it used so much space..
  
  Yeah, better use the linter too, that way it's limited to 80 characters