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Seven out of 10 Europeans believe their country takes in too many immigrants

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Europeans view immigration with increasing suspicion. Seven out of 10 Europeans believe that their country takes in too many migrants, according to a survey carried out by BVA Xsight for ARTE Europe Weekly, a project led by the French-German TV channel ARTE GEIE and which EL PAÍS has participated in, as part of the countdown to the European elections in June.

The survey shows that 85% of respondents feel the European Union needs to take more action to combat irregular migration. And only 39% believe that Europe needs immigration today.

The countries where most people consider immigration a problem are Bulgaria (74% of respondents), the Czech Republic (73%), Hungary and Cyprus (68% in both cases). Paradoxically, in Italy, the European country where the largest number of immigrants entered irregularly last year (157,652), only 44% of respondents viewed it as a problem and only 14% saw it as the main problem. In Greece and Spain, the second and third countries with the most irregular arrivals in 2023, respectively, only 11% of respondents considered it the issue of most concern to them, below the European average of 17%. However, Greece is the country where the most people (90%) believe their country takes in too many migrants.

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Seven out of 10 Europeans believe their country takes in too many immigrants

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Seven out of 10 Europeans believe their country takes in too many immigrants

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Seven out of 10
Why? Why mix words and digits in that way. That's not acceptable.
- That's how I was taught to write it. One through nine get written out and anything 10 or higher is numeric.
  
  I'm pretty sure that's in the style guide of a lot of publications
  
  One to twelve where I'm from, 13 and above as numbers.
  
  I'm very sorry.
- Generally, numbers are not used to start a sentence.
  
  yeah, it's AP style guidelines.
- Probably because of those immigrants too. They ruined our grammar!
  
  Absolutely, with their arabic numerals and all! It should read "Seven out of X"!

Immigration is a good thing.
On average, the more people contributing to an economy bolsters it.
- There are more things to a stable and sustainable society than economy.
  With many European countries doing budget cuts to education, social security, healthcare etc many people are dissatisfied with their goverments. This can make it very hard to justify spending said budget on migrants or programs with aim to integrating migrants to the society.
  
  But the budget cuts is so that they can reduce the taxes for the richest, which will trickle down and boost the economy even more! Let's goooooo....
  
  All those countries also suffer from a huge demographic catastrophe coming in. Unless they get a massive amount of young immigrant workers to stabilise the social systems, those systems will collapse alltogether.
  
  It's just that the austerity cuts on basic living necessities create more instability, for native-born and new members of a society. But that's probably the purpose, masses are easier to control when they struggle and are helpless
- Who are you writing this for? Pretty obviously Lemmy agrees with this
  
  Who are you writing this for?
  Right back at ya.

Immigration is all about cheap labor. In the US there's a reason why so many seasonal workers come in illegally. It's because it's cheaper for the agricultural overlords and they make greater profits needing to pay undocumented workers less. Remember the money, it's always about the money.
https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-half-us-farmworkers-undocumented-ending-illegal-immigration-could-devastate-economy-1585202
The corporations want us to be xenophobic, they want us to hate "illegal aliens" for "stealing our jobs" because it allows them to continue to profit at record levels.
- How does convincing people to be against cheap labor help companies that want cheap labor? That's like oil companies funding anti-oil campaigns
  
  They want society to oppose immigration and work visas so that these people will have to work as illegals, for lower pay and worse working conditions.
  Despite all the right wing wall talk, the wealthy actually benefit from a somewhat porous border for this reason.

The power of marketing.
- Seven out of 10 Europeans believe their country takes in too many immigrants
  ...So, 30% of EU are immigrants?
  
  The EU has been hosting many immigrants for decades, and many have become citizens.
  Surprisingly though,it seems that many EU citizens with a migration background, ( for example 1st and 2nd generation etc) in the EU vote against new immigrants. They usually perceive it as a threat against their economic/housing/children's stability & future.

Man, they’re really not gonna like the coming climate migration.
- It's going to become Children of Men violent
  
  Thanks for reminding me I need to watch the movie again.

Italian here. It seems a very low percentage considering how big the immigration issue is perceveid on the media and in the political talks. It was also a big part of the campaign the led the right/center right to win the past elections.

Well, they better get ready for more as increasing numbers of people become climate refugees from the Middle East and global south.

It's a really different situation from America, where xenophobic stuff is concentrated in a very angry, specific slice of the population. It makes me wonder if the EU far-right is less emerging fascism, and more a return to East Asian-style policies, which might have been more natural all along in ancient (former and current) kingdoms.
Just a thought. I'm not even sure I believe it, let alone can prove it, so I guess as they say in Musk-land, "don't at me".

7 out of 10 Britons believe their country takes in too many Saxons!
- It all went downhill when they started letting the Angles in.

Scapegoats for decades of failed neoliberal capitalism that's led to massive inequality. Massive wealth accumulated by slivers of the populations.

"DeMoCraTs wOuLd Be FaR RIghT iN EUroPe"

look. you can't write out one number and then not write out the other. you have to decide yourself. either "seven out of ten" or "7 out of 10"

Yeah it's great. Just great. Until your government imports so many that you can't afford to live anywhere and can't pick up a second job because of all the doctors and engineers.
- Pst, here's a secret... capitalism is causing that to happen world wide - including in countries with low immigration.
  
  OK. What's your fix? Because as a person on the ground whats effecting me -right now- is so many people came that rent skyrocketed and they took all the weekend work "as students"
- Thats why all the companies are crying that they lack employees. Thats why Britain is still short tens of thousands of lorry drivers

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