2y ago

A broken man

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"I know what no one wants to admit - that everybody is just one bad day away from copy/pasting a curl command that pipes a remote script into sudo."
- Sudo? Not likely, on bad days I run as root by default...
  
  Living on the edge I see!
- done that
- Essentially describes CVE-2024-3400, absolute garbage security from Palo Alto.

I installed Linux Mint three days ago. Nvidia drivers got installed automatically and I was able to load up steam and play right away. No idea what this meme is talking about
- I remember it being like that already in 2014. The only thing especially annoying I remember was having to use optimus to manually switch between the "internal" Intel GPU and the dedicated Nvidia GPU to not run out of battery within an hour. But the whole set up thing was never an issue for me on Mint and Ubuntu even 10 years ago.

Did he first have to travel back in time to a time when this was hard because that would break a man.
- sudo apt install backintime-qt
- I had a hard time getting drivers for an RTX 4070 setup on Fedora a couple months ago. Not that I'm everyone, but I'm relatively competent so I could see how it would be an experience many people have shared.
  
  I have that same card and just today tried installing the drivers for a fresh install of fedora atomic 40 (KDE). It went worse than I expected.
  (before I rant, note that I have a 21:9 monitor which maybe adds extra weirdness/uncommonness.)
  installer was a black screen. No signal to monitor at all. Had to use “basic video mode” from GRUB.
  after install, I updated the system. A reboot caused the resolution to drop extremely low with wrong aspect ratio and refresh rate. Almost unusable for navigating system menus. None of that could not be changed. It wasn’t an issue before the update.
  you have to do a weird workaround to get rpm fusion repos on atomic. Fair enough and fedora docs got you covered. Doing this involves rebooting twice. That’s when I learned that every other reboot consistently would boot into a black screen. So 4-5 reboots later (and a few more to test my theory), I have the repo with nvidia drivers.
  installed the driver only to realize that it will break the install if secure boot is enabled (atomic only issue, I think). System crashed and couldn’t be booted anymore. Results in a freeze that needs a hard reboot. Back to my old OS for now because I’m exhausted.
  I can’t believe GPU drivers can break secure boot in 2024. I’m sure there is a logical reason behind it, but I’m shocked that installing anything at all on top of an OS that already supports secure boot would break it. Maybe I’ll try Bazzite because I’m lazy and heard good things. At a glance it appears to be fedora atomic with nvidia drivers installed (amongst many other gaming related things I probably would install anyway eventually).
  
  I set up my 4070 TS (the brand new one) on Ubuntu 22.04 about two months ago and my god was it a pain in the ass. Took like two days to do and even after that it would still hit a screen freeze issue every thirty minutes that took another week to find a half-assed solution for…

"Do you want to know where I got these scars?! I found a handy guide to installing the Wi-Fi drivers I needed, but I couldn't use it could I? Because it required that I already be online..."
- I always use my usb to phone cable in these situations. Basically any distro has a driver ready to see the phone‘s hotspot network. Saved me a lot of times, lol
  
  I do the same. In case someone wants to know how it works with an Android phone, you connect your phone to your PC over USB and then you get a notification on your phone that says something like "Charging over USB". If you tap on that, you can change the connection mode and one of the modes is "USB tethering". If you select that, your PC will have an internet connection over the USB connection to your phone. It's kinda like hotspot over USB.
- Cries in ndiswrapper and b43-fwcutter
- I had to buy an Ethernet dongle for my Lenovo laptop for just such an occasion, and that was an adventure to get working.
  
  In my case, the Ethernet wasn't working either.
  So I had to log into Windows, to try and find out the correct downloads. Failed that too.
- WiFi drivers.... Bluetooth in general.... Printers....
  It could make a grown man cry I tell ya. CRY
- I just had to wrestle with this issue for the last few days.
  Good news is my joker mask is arriving on Friday!
- 😂🤭 true. This used to happen to me in 2021 with 11th gen Intel laptop and Linux Mint...
- This brings back repressed memories for trying to get Fedora Core 4 to run on my Dell laptop back in 2005.

I'm starting to think I'm some kind of Linux Genius because I've installed Nobara, clicked on "yes" when it asked me if I wanna install the driver and voilà. Never had an issue except steam flickering but I really don't care.

Linus Torvalds' response
- Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
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The best part of using Nvidia drivers on Linux was when a newer package version dropped support for my card, because fuck me.
Since then I became paranoid and started backing up all of my apt cache debs.
- You can run
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  apt install package=version
  to be explicit about it.
  
  It was gone from the repo IIRC, I couldn't downgrade from Synaptic.

apt install nvidia-driver-xxx?
Sometimes you have to update the kernel headers too I guess.
- But who asked?

I'm a simple man:
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sudo ubuntu-drivers install nvidia-driver-545
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  $ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS Release: 22.04 Codename: jammy
- I'm an even simpler man:
  pacman -S nvidia
  
  Are you feeling lucky?
  
  nvidia-inst

I like this meme but installing nvidia drivers is easy tho?
- It depends
- ROFL
  Take a Guess

Because of this I just use AMD
- Same after a long career of nVidia cards, I finally swapped to AMD and have not been disappointed. And its sooooo easy..!
- I use AMD. Unfortunately no HDR on GNOME...
  
  I'm currently giving KDE a whirl, you do get (rough) HDR, but I do miss some of the gnomes polish.

I just installed fedora 40. Was absolutely amazed when my three monitors just worked. Installed some games and realized I had forgotten to install the Nvidia drivers. Installed them... Laptop locked up wouldn't boot. Unplugged the third monitor and it started working. Screw Nvidia. Not buying another system with their trash. Fix your driver's you selfish POS
- Sad situation indeed. This is why AMD plus Mesa is preferable...

Joker as a road weary Linux early adopter is going to live rent free in my head for a long time. Thank you for that.

The install part is easy. It's when some update breaks everything that the madness sets in
- You just uninstall and reinstall no?
  
  The last time, something hosed my whole install. I stopped using linux for a while after that. I'm stuck on a mac for work, much to my protestation, and I can't justify replacing the graphics card on my personal PC at this moment, so I'm mostly just hanging out in Windows (mostly because I do video editing as well and I have issues with Davinci in Linux that may or may not be related to nvidia).

sudo dnf install akmod-nvidia
wow that was easy
tries to run wayland
And that's how I became an x11 shill

Then he tried using Wayland on nVidia, and the MF became the darkest Joker we've ever had.

i mean it's not hard at all depending on your distro...

Can i have a turn reposting this outdated moldy meme?

Funny enough I've had more issues with AMD drivers on my Windows machines than I ever have with nVidia on my Linux installs
Literally just changed to a different version by menu with nVidia a week ago when a text bug came up. Only issue on 2 different Linux installs with nVidia over the years.
Compared to ~8 years ago when I had to HUNT DOWN a veeeery specific driver version or my AMD GPU was like "lol idk how to be a GPU" on Win8 (or we're we using 20 by then I can't be assed to Google it), and even then it whined constantly and did weird shit
Of course AMD is fine now, wife's GPU installed no issue and it's from the same manufacturer, but still funny to me

I was considering eventually moving to Linux.
Now I'll wait till my current system gets an upgrade
- It's really not that bad, especially if you pick a distro like Pop that has the drivers bundled so you don't even need to touch it
- LOL, this is a joke, on most popular distro it is quite easy, on ubuntu and mint, it is just clicking a check box and set a password for secureboot.
  On fedora is clicking a button, and run a single line of command.
  Many distro has nvidia images that don't need any configuration, like popOS, ublue derivates, and vanilla OS etc.
  I have been using my old GTX1060 on ublue for couple years now.
  I think the complains are most about distro developers needs to do extra work, just because nvidia refuse to play nicely with open source, like everyone else did.

That tracks

Oh my god now THAT is some method acting

nvidia-inst
Profit.

Debian has a .deb that does the job.
Unless you have a really old graphics card anyway and then you have to use the .run installer from Nvidia. Pain in the a-- sure, but still not Joker level hurt-the-world madness.

I was broken long before nVidia drivers and Wayland.
I was crushed long ago while trying to compile the driver for a Sound Blaster Gold sound card for Fedora 6 and Mandrake 6. Two weeks and 20 pages of printed out instructions. Two weeks of hell in kernels. It should have worked. The terminal showed no errors and nor did the logs. But no sound came forth. I had to buy a boxed set for Mandrke 7 to get sound.
So here I sit with a fresh install of Fedora 40 on my trusty old Nitro 5 wondering if I should install the nVidia drivers and I hear the silent foot steps of that Sound Blaster........
But hey, at least my printer works.

pacman -S nvidia and I've never had any issues. I know that it's not that easy in some other distros, but maybe stop using shitty distros.
- This is the most Arch Linux comment I've read in a while. This is easy in most mainstream distros now, but there are exceptions like NixOS or Gentoo, which aren't shitty but are just harder for specific reasons.

<package manager>
install nvidia
The horror! Sometimes you even have to log out and bacd back in...
- Be happy that you live in the days where installing Nvidia drivers is as easy as it is right now... There were... darker times.
  
  Back in the 90s I'd configure && make && make install my kernel regularly, even with nvidia drivers, and there wasn't much to it.
  Now, modelines, those could be tricky.

It ain't like it used to be. Just upgraded my machine to an Nvidia for the first time in like 10+ years.
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sudo apt install nvidia
After a reboot it was smooth as hell. I remember the dark ages. I remember fucking with X.org settings. 😐

The recent developments for Nvidia drivers on Linux have been wild. Never thought it would happen

On a related note, when did Joaquin Phoenix turn into a younger Jeremy Irons?

... and DirectX 12

How are you bodily depressed?
- Wow, there is so much good info on how the buddy holds mental distress. You've never heard of that?
- That is why this meme is so funny to me. It is worded in an intentionally stupid manner this adds a level of irony to it. 😂

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