U.S. likely to enact a law soon that could ban TikTok nationwide, President Joe Biden vowed to sign it into law

To be fair they didn't actually name TikTok. That would be clearly Unconstitutional. Instead they made a bill that will only apply to one company. So unconstitutional but most people won't notice.

And even better Meta, Alphabet, Apple, and GM are all busy selling China your information as fast as they can anyways.

It's being used as an infiltration device by the Chinese government. Not that I agree butvits not just a website. Same as Twitter and Facebook bit we have more control over those.

Look what it did to boomers. Legit. Ban all that shit. Geocities for the win.

This will do nothing about that. If TikTok is banned, kids will just move to something else. You would have to ban all social media. Good luck with that.

You can't ban peer pressure. That's like trying to stop the flow of water.

They said this about TV. And game consoles. And computers. And every social media website. They said this about movies when they first came out too.

Social media is a reality of the world. This ban isn't getting rid of that, just banning one specific platform. Why is Intagram Reels acceptable but Tik Tok isn't? Because ones is owned by a Chinese company and the other isn't. That's all this ban is about. Literally nothing else.

This is all true which is why it's obvious that this ban has nothing to do with any of this considering they allow this behavior to continue just as long as these companies are also under their influence.

I'm a new parent trying to navigate all this myself.

Most research I've been able to find suggests that social media doesn't cause problems, but rather kids with problems tend to spend too much time on social media. As in there's no causal link between social media and whatever social problems.

I guess when my kids get to that age the best I'll be able to do will be to try to keep them engaged with the physical world however I can.

Harm the stock portfolios of US billionaires? You sound like someone who hates receiving RVs and fishing trips.

Because the US can control the topics shared in the other platforms, but since tiktok is owned by a chinese parent company, they can't

Also, tiktok was originally told they had to sell to a us based owner to avoid the ban (see hostile takeover)

This ban has nothing to do with privacy and Chinese manipulation, and everything about control and profits.

Hell, Besos and The Zuckster are the two main forces pushing for this ban.

Corporate lobbying doesn't want digital rights for people, more work for them.

Code's not enough. The data the algorithm is analyzing (both the training data and live data) has to be public too, in order to actually understand what the algorithm is doing.

They are making money off a literal public good. EVERYTHING they produce, including the profits, is public property.

The law is to force any company that isn't US owned that the US doesn't like to hand over ownership. Regardless of your thoughts on TikTok/ByteDance/China in general, this is not a law one should praise. It's incredibly dangerous and is one more step toward the US becoming a full-fledged fascist state.

I guarantee you that Facebook, Twitter and Google are selling data to China on the regular. And anyone else willing to pay up.

It's already run by a Singaporean group. Transferring it to the US is just a chance for our Social Media conglomerates to part it out and destroy competition.

60% of Bytedance is owned by institutional investors. It's a private company. The CCP doesn't own the company. 3 of the 5 board members are American. Don't spread made up bullshit. If there's any reason not to sell the company to a US company is because only 150 million Americans are tiktok users on an app with over a billion monthly active users globally. Not to mention that the US companies are gonna lowball the shit out of their offers because they think Bytedance is gonna be begging to sell. Also, there's a chance that if the US bans tiktok, then maybe they could get access to China, which tiktok is not currently available in.

99.99999%

Yeah, tiktok is a Chinese data mine so... they don't want it to go away, they vwanna control it.

Twitter gives US agencies data, they are cool bro

An app that they already made an account for Biden on too lol

Gotta do what big corporations want him to do

Nevermind the bill has bipartisan support! Republicans must have ZERO to do with this bill! 🙄

Get serious or get out.

So we should copy China's policies?

How can this be a bipartisan agreement

Both sides dislike other countries having the spy power. Or anything, really. US got serious overcompensation issues with being the biggest and baddest at everything.

What’s its difference to the “video games cause violence” bit

China likely actually is spying and TikTok probably does actually do some harm, unlike video games and violence. Definetelt nowhere near justification for this shit though.

The US has two parties, one which is very nationalistic and loves cruelty, and one that is very bureaucratic and loves controlling information. This creates a bureaucratic structure which increases control over citizen info, in a way that presumably hurts another country and stifles progressive youth.

Well the video games thing was people thinking games caused violence. This is people thinking the CCP has access to TikTok's data. The problem is all of our social media apps, and cars, and smart devices are selling data to China. So we aren't plugging a hole. We're just forcing a "fire sale" where a rich American can buy TikTok for cheap.

This isn't a consumer protection thing; it's a national security thing.

Unfortunately, they're not banning all social media because they're vectors for destroying privacy and manipulating consumers; they're banning only the Chinese one because it's a vector for Chinese spying and propaganda. They want only American-owned companies to be in a position to manipulate Americans, and they want that manipulation to continue.

The issue is not with the applications psychological effects on children (although i'm sure politicians bring that point up in passing to bolster their argument). The basis for the removal of the application is that it is spyware with rootkit capabilities.

Biden has already indicated he in on-board with the TikTok ban so even if it wasn't bundled in he would sign it. https://apnews.com/article/biden-tiktok-ban-house-china-aaa884d8c974f0a35856af5ee6aa4e99

Biden has come out in favor of this bill already, the hold up is in the senate.

Even if it passes, I would expect TikTok to immediately sue and gain a temporary stay on enforcement. How it shakes out in court is not my area of expertise.

But this doesn't stop anyone from spying on them. Data collection, aggregation, sale, and exploitation is entirely legal so if the Chinese government wants your data they can buy it wholesale for less than maintaining TikTok from Google, Microsoft, Apple, Meta, Discord, and Amazon.

All you're doing is taking a bunch of blubbering buffoon's at their word that this is for your protection.

Ah but that foreign government is cool and good! Gen Z knows that because the propoganda platform they've become addicted to tells them that China is cool and good, so clearly the U.S. is bad and being mean to the Chinese.