Ralph Nader Would Like to Stop Having to Explain Why the Spoiler Coverage Is Stupid

I don't and I'm all for voting your conscience. I'm also for voting solidarity and strategically. My conscience votes for making the outright fascist lose by as much as possible. And never standing a chance of winning.

I live in a red state that Biden stands no chance of winning ever. But I will be damned if it's close and I happen to be one of the chucklefucks that could have made a difference but didn't. Because I felt it was more important to protest vote in one of the most useless elections to protest vote. A Presidential election.

If you want to send one of the major parties a message start voting in state and local elections. Start filling their ranks with progressives socialist and communist. They will take notice. They will start appeasing them or risk losing their power.

They can safely ignore each and every single presidential protest vote in the history of the United states. Because since the country's founding. The structure of presidential elections have always put it outside the reach of all third parties everywhere. And even if the unthinkable happened. A third party candidate made it into the office of the president. They would be a lame duck for change. Unable to make a difference without any sort of coalition or party to back them. Bad presidential candidates is a symptom of a greater disease in the body politic. You don't solve the problem by doing a little pruning at the top. Pruning the top won't change the underlying structure. You have to go for the root of the problem so to speak.

Each and every 3rd party or independent presidential candidate is either a grifter themselves or a tool for grifters. Jill Stein couldn't win city dog catcher. Let alone president. The fact that every 4 years the money is there to run that moron for president. But the green party can't be bothered to push candidates elsewhere. Where they might accidentally stand a chance of wining. That should tell you everything. There are thousands of state and local offices throughout middle America that Republicans run for and win unopposed. Almost as damming of Democrats as it is of every single other party in American politics.

3rd party presidential candidates almost always guarantee a fascist/Republican win. Coupled with the fact that most people can't be bothered to vote on non-presidential years for anything ever. It pretty much guarantees that nothing will ever change and the status quo will stay in place. It's a pretty Insidious and ingenious system. The perfect political hamster wheel if you will. Designed to keep the public tiring itself out getting nowhere. Where those in power can just continue to get worse and worse with impunity. As we argue and fight amongst ourselves.

They're functionally the same people.

Thank you for this comment. Even tho you got downvoted by the people win this sub who don't believe in democracy!

I fully agree with the idea that if Biden doesn't win the upcoming election, the world including women and Hispanics and Palestinians and American soldiers and Democrats and a whole bunch of other people will be actively in danger. I'm voting for Biden in the general election.

I actually think Biden is a radical upwards departure from the Democratic norm; he's concretely advancing a progressive agenda in ways that no Democrat since Carter has. Yes maybe it's good to add that as explicit context when posting this article.

At the same time, I think it's 100% justified as Nader does here to examine "how the fuck did things get to such a state that a Democrat like that could be in any kind of trouble as an incumbent in an election against literally one of the worst people in the world." Since he's someone who's been involved in landmark legislative gains like the creation of OSHA, I think it's relevant to listen to his critique of the media and the DNC establishment.

But yes, Biden definitely needs to win this particular election or else there will be a whole lot of suffering in many different places in the world. On that we can agree.