Canonical and Qualcomm Collaborate to Bring Ubuntu to Qualcomm Devices

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I'll take that. A win for Ubuntu is a win for Linux (I hope?)
- I wish they did this a decade ago, back when they tried to crowdfund the Ububtu phone - and subsequently scrapped all plans just because they didn't meet the target. There was already a big dev scene in the community with people porting Ubuntu to Android phones - they could've easily partnered up with them, like how OnePlus partnered up with CyanogenMod a year later. I mean, Canonical did raise $12mil through the campaign, which showed there was not only plenty of interest, but also plenty of people willing to actually fund it.
  The problem now is Google and Apple have taken such a deep foothold on the market, it may be a bit too late. After the disappointment of the scrapped Ububtu Phone and subsequent loss of trust in Canonical over the years, I can't help but be sceptical about this whole thing. I'll celebrate if and when we have an actual, usable, flagship device in our hands, and not something gimped like the Librem 5 or the Pinephone.
  
  Before we max bet on phones, I think we should nail tablet first. The GUI for the current Linux apps are designed for mouse, not for phone/tablet.
  
  I think Linux phones would be super cool. And I dream one day it will become a properly usable reality. But what I really want is a properly supported, powerful ARM based laptop. Something approaching apple M series performance with the same kind of battery life. If Ubuntu can nail that, or another distro like asahi Linux, I will be happy with that and using graphene OS.
  
  Yeah QC can actually make good chips so a Linux phone based on a NEW midrange or high end chip might actually have a chance. I'd switch if it could run F-droid apps.
  
  I don’t necessarily think it’s too late. There will be a niche that someone/some entity will settle into for us privacy minded folk. Hopefully that niche gets beefy processors and extra ram fr fr
  
  Canonical abruptly realized that they needed to make money. The way they did that was though the existing server market.
  Ubuntu as a consumer OS is cool but they didn't have a way to fund it.
  
  The problem with the Ubuntu phone wasn't the lack of drivers or support from Qualcomm, the real problem was just lack of strategic foresight, I mean, common fucking sense from Canonical.
  Canonical was always very bad at strategy, they tried to enter the mass market of personal computing with a product full of indecipherable error messages and an ugly UI. I’m pretty sure Microsoft, Apple and Google already proved people value simplicity and a great design on their computers. They followed the trend with useless phones that never got anywhere because people wouldn't even adopt a phone that doesn't have an App Store with their favorite apps. And no, web based shit isn't enought.
  Here's a quote from their CEO (Shuttleworth):
  I had dreamed of Ubuntu sort of going mainstream (…) better focus on the things [our customers] care about (…) that required some changes in the business. Those are, at an emotional level, challenging changes…
  The first rule of business: the purpose of any company is to make money. It doesn’t matter your business type or products; if you’ve to change the core of your business to make more revenue you just do it without emotional attachments – if you can’t handle this do not launch a business, ever.
  The problem now is Google and Apple have taken such a deep foothold on the market, it may be a bit too late
  This was also a problem "then". When Ubuntu Phone launched the market was already consolidated into iOS and Android and Uber, banks, facebook and whatnot wouldn't develop alternative versions of their Apps for an half assed platform not backed by a serious player, ever.
- That's my hope too, that doing it for Ubuntu means other distros can ride the coat tails, fingers crossed for Fedora
  
  Amen to that.

That kind of means that Qualcomm will open source some of their stuff, so the kernel can communicated with the CPU?
- More likely close sources drivers.

Wait, Qualcomm open sources drivers?
- Open sauce blobs, as in - you can have em.
  
  That's freeware, though.

Hopefully this means Ubuntu will have good support for the X1 Elite...that'd be pretty sweet. Then all that sweet code can trickle down to the other distros.

Qualcomm? Not... Arm in general?
- We're talking about Qualcomm here, the company that made a deal with Microsoft to make Windows on ARM exclusive to Qualcomm SoC.
  
  I actually thought Qualcomm was quite cool, but that's an ass deal. On the other hand, it's Microsoft and I kind of hate them at this point
- No x86 is pretty much the only Platfrom I'm aware of where you can build a generic Kernel that will work with pretty much any hardware configuration out of the box.
  
  There's ARM generic that some distros support, but depend on your CPU supporting UEFI
  
  Woah.
  ARM sucks, lol.

I'm interested. As long as it has an unlockable bootloader and I can install my own OS
- Its already been known Qualcomm x1 arm64 laptop chip will be able to run other operating systems its not a phone.