Unprovoked

The US seriously needs to halt all export of weapons to Israel. They're enabling them to start a massive war and painting a target on themselves in the process.
- I’m assuming the US wants to have some proxy wars in the Middle East though.
  
  why? this is literally only bad for America, both economically and foreign policy wise.
- I've said this before, but I believe Israel is eager to use their nukes and the US is appeasing them. It's the only way I can wrap my head around this.
  I'm probably wrong, and am not professionally informed.
  
  Israël has nukes?
  
  Either that or the risk of extremist terrorism from their far-right.

Aren't they mostly freaking out because this could be the start of this getting much worse?
- ikr? who woulda thought western support for indiscriminate bombing of civilians and land takeover could be start of something much worse? It should have totally gone similar to US invading Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq. Without consequences.
  but you think now's the start, huh?
  
  Never said things aren't bad right now. Not sure how ya even got there? Things are absolutely disgusting and everyone supporting this can rot in fucking hell. I am saying people are freaking out at this because, as bad as things are now, they can always get fucking worse.
- Not really. Iran declared their retaliation complete. Netanyahu took out the IRGC commander he was going for in the embassy attack. There’s no reason to expect this to escalate.
- Shame they didn't freak out earlier. Maybe before the Israelis decided it would be fun to start bombing embassies and other countries for no reason.

It's neat how 'western media' is more than America. You know that, right?
- Yes. What is your point?
- Can you give us some enough examples of "western media that is more than America" calling out the genocide with the right weight and not playing the "we don't think what you are doing is wrong but we have to save face to retain the illusion of credibility" game at the moment? Even BBC that first said it wouldn't take part in sided labeling of groups openly said they caved in to the pressure of calling Hamas terrorists in their news about them, all the while Israel was bombing hospitals, housing units, aid delivery locations and trucks, ambulances, children and teens moving back their houses for food, shooting elderly people pleading for their lives?
  Fucking hypocrites you all.
  
  Here you go:
  https://www.dw.com/en/little-escape-for-rafah-residents-amid-plans-for-offensive/a-68729764?mobileApp=true
  https://www.reuters.com/pictures/pictures-six-months-war-israel-gaza-2024-04-05/
  https://www.reuters.com/pictures/israeli-troops-exit-gazas-shifa-hospital-leaving-rubble-bodies-2024-04-01/
  https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/feb/26/middle-east-crisis-live-gaza-israel-netanyahu-ceasefire-deal-hamas-rafah

attacks iran
expect them not to retaliate
- Of course they expect them to retaliate. That's the entire point. That's why they attacked in the first place. They need Iran to be the boogeyman counterpart in the "help! We're being threatened!" narrative that keeps the extremes in power in both Israel and Iran.

Israel acts on behalf of Western colonialism. It is just one step removed from the direct colonialism of the 19th and 20th centuries. The hypocrisy is not that hard to understand. It would be simpler to understand it as just another Crusader kingdom.
Israel will run the same course the Crusader Kingdoms ran before it. From religiously motivated to geopolitically necessary to the eventuality of becoming a liability and then collapsing. We are just witnessing Israel tip from geopolitically necessary to a liability, it is happening but not yet. Of course, there will still be the Christians zealots like Mike Pompeo who will support Israel even if it meant a nuclear apocalypse.

This world is not binary like your "smart" memes.
- Binary good. Non binary bad. Easy.
  I'm sick of you liberals who intentionally overcomplicate stuff to the point I no longer understand them and then you call me dumb and do whatever you want. MAGA!
  Attention: huuuuuuge /S
- Sure! Shades of grey! Iran's government sucks; I hope every day that the people rise up and hang them. But genocide is bad. The only way to stop a genocide once it's in full swing is to kill the fuckers doing it until they literally cannot continue-not until its not worth it, until they can't.
  And this was shitty people who work for assholes who deserve to die killing vicious inhuman monsters comitting every warcrime in the book and double checking to make sure they're at 100% completion each month, then posting about it on social media). These are some of the worst most vicious monsters humanity ever produced (not that they're still human), and anybody who tries to kill even one gets points in my book. There is no amount of dead perpetrators of genocide or chattel slavery that is unacceptable, and no condition of killing them that is unacceptable. So maybe this is the one time its not cool to shit on the current Iranian regime?
- Thank you for enlightening us about the nuance of Genocide.

For those who are still under the illusion there is equal coverage of both sides;
Isreal bombing Iran got one front page spot for one day. People "died" passively,
Irans counter attack got the front page for three days straight. And we now see words such as "Attack".

Leadership of my country has been calling for a ceasefire and reduction of violence since the beginning. Great to see that we're lumped in with the Americans regardless.
- Which one? A western one?
  Western nations condemn Iran attack on Israel, issue statements of solidarity
  
  It is possible to condemn both this attack and the embassy strike, just as it is possible to find the October 7 attack an appalling act of barbarism without wanting kids killed in retaliation
  
  There are 70 nations in the west. Based on the content of their comment, I’m guessing Canada.

Everyone was very much screaming guy when Israel hit the Iranian embassy. It's not who's doing the bombing that's the difference, it's that Israel and Hamas bombing each other happens all the time, Iran and Israel bombing each other is a step level up in intensity, evidence of a growing war.
- No not at all. Everyone was mostly focused on white people getting murdered by israels Genocide. It was a truly eventful day of israeli war crimes after which Joe Biden still fully supports israel and doesn't place restrictions on arms usage.
  
  More like American media was focused on white people killings.
  
  That is incorrect. Biden stated that he contacted Netanyahu after the attack and insisted on diplomatic response. There is no reason to expect this to escalate.
- You can't really condemn Hamas (for offensive actions. Their treatment of other Palestinians isn't great). They're killing Nazis. Killing Nazis is always good. If you think otherwise, you are a Nazi.
  
  The problem with that thinking is how easy it is to call someone a Nazi (or a terrorist) to legitimize killing them.
  
  I think you are worst then nazis for celebrating the events of October 7.
  
  So by your logic, because I disapprove of massacring people dancing at a music festival I am now a Nazi, and you consider my murder to be a good? Is that your pitch?

Biden already told Israel the US will not join Israel in a counter-striker and has asked Israel to take the interception of most of the attack as a victory and let it go.
That doesn't sound like much, but Bush or Trump would have already hit Iran by now and escalated everything.
- Biden blocked UN condemnation of the israeli strike on the embassy and according to an israeli journalist America spent 1 Billion dollars to intercept the counter attack from Iran.
  Biden provides israel with the jets and weapons to bomb Iran and defends israel against any retaliation.
  
  I would imagine that Americans are chuffed that genocidal Israelis are safe while they can't get health care.
  
  And that's why you shouldn't pay american taxes. Just fucking don't.
  
  Providing weapons is wrong, but defending them isn't.
  A billion dollars is fuck all if it stops Israel escalating. Harder to do that if Tel Aviv has a bunch of craters in it.
  
  You do realize that in that context "Take the missiles being intercepted as a victory and back down" is a threat to let the misses through next time if Israel doesn't back down.
  Stopping the missiles in this case was a pure win for the US. We kept innocent civilians from dying, made Iran look weaker, and kept Israel from having a stronger excuse to start fighting more neighbors.
  It's taking longer than we like, but more and more people are coming around on this issue. If those missiles had landed, it would have undone 6 months of progress and all political progress towards reigning in Isreal would have ceased.
  
  This comes across as if you're angry Iran's strike didn't do more damage.
- Biden would have too without his balls in a vice. The leaders are all the same; its the pressure on them that matters.
  
  "the leaders are all the same" "biden can be influenced to do different things" "heehoo politic"

Well, all I could think today when hearing the head of the European Commission (a German, by the way) criticize Iran's attack "in the stronguest terms" and restate her unwavering support of Israel whilst not having said a pip when Israel attacked the Irani Embassy, is that she's doing Russia's work at convincing the Global South that Europe and its allies are two-faced racists that can't be trusted, which will have implications for, amongst other things, the support when it comes to Ukraine (which is globally seen as an European problem).
Way to put the security and even global influence of Europe on the noose for the sake of a supremacist ultra racist country run commiting a mass genocide along etnic lines.

Is someone bombing Israel right now? Im confused.
- Israel bombed an Iranian consulate two weeks ago killing some top military officers. It did not receive much news coverage and America blocked condemnation of it at the UN.
  Last night Iran launched a counter attack and bombed the israeli air bases that hosted the F35s F16s. Now and our entire collective political landscape loses its mind
  
  Poow babies.
  The government of Iran is shit, but even shitty people can do the right thing by accident, as shown here.

im ootl what happened??
- Israel attacks Iranian consulate, Iran retaliates

Obviously? Like, this is how war and geopolitics has worked since the invention of the pointy stick.
Whether you like them or not, Israel is an ally and Iran is a self-proclaimed enemy of the Western world.
An enemy jumps in on a war and bombs one of our allies, you expect no reaction? Duh
- If those are "our" allies, "we" deserve to die too.
  You are not (hopefully. Is your last name Windsor? Hapsburg?) Your government. They do not exist for the people. You are being taken advantage of and identifying with them is not reasonable or healthy.
  
  Another idealist who has mixed up "allies" with "friends". We don't need to approve of anything our allies do, or even think that they're good guys. All that "allies" means is that they would have our back, just like we have theirs, against our common enemies.
  This is because "enemies" in this case refers to nations like Iran, who hate our entire way of life and aren't afraid to say they would like to see us all dead. It doesn't matter to them if you think your government represents you (I certainly don't) but if you believe we deserve to die, why not offer yourself up?
  You might get lucky and get thrown off a building, or a fairly quick beheading with a dull-ish knife. Or less lucky, and get roasted alive in a cage over a fire, dragged behind a vehicle, or hacked into various pieces.
  "We" are allies with Israel only because they are a shining light of sanity in a region that could otherwise be classified as "batshit insane"

Double stranded as usual.

I guess the fact that the word Nazi was part of Ashkenazi should have been a warning...

I was surprised that the killing of Iran's defense secretary, and Iran blowing up buildings on us bases in retaliation back during Trump didn't trigger something. Weird thought: Trump didn't retaliate after that, so if Biden does, does that make Biden more a warmonger than Trump?
- Trump literally assassinated one of Iran's top generals. What are you talking about, Jessie
- I think the question is not whether Biden retaliates, but if Bibi does. And he's definitely a warmonger.

You know it’s really interesting how all the Zionist vitriol and pro Biden onslaught disappears on weekends and it’s the takes that subscribe to consistent logic and ethics that rise to the top..
- Lolwut
- Yeah almost like they're normal people who have lives
- You have 23 downvotes. What does that say about your comment?

Country that murders school girls vs country where it's fine to be openly gay
- Last time I checked israel killed more school girls than every country in the world combined for the past four years.
  Gaza: Number of children killed higher than from four years of world conflict
  And israel doesn't allow gay marriage
  And israel blackmails gay Palestinians into becoming spies
  Any information that might enable extortion of an individual is considered relevant information. Whether said individual is of a certain sexual orientation, cheating on his wife, or in need of treatment in Israel or the West Bank – he is a target for blackmail.
  If you’re homosexual and know someone who knows a wanted person – and we need to know about it – Israel will make your life miserable.
  
  If you did any more stretching you'd become a kite lol
  Despite Israeli incompetence at warfare their values are much more tolerant than murdering school girls for taking their hats off, stoning girls for being raped, murdering people for leaving their religions. Not even touching the whole idea of martyrdom where the muslim culture glorifies suicide murder.
  No other culture has this. None. That's not something the west needs fixing - it's muslim cutlure that needs to unify and reject these absurd and evil ideologies and finally drag themselves into 20th century.
  
  Last time you checked?
  Iran hangs Kurds by construction cranes on such a scale some crane companies stopped sales.
  Just Google Iran public executions. You people are full of shit and hypocrites. Yes, yes you're anti western, so just go to Iran and let's see how fast you'll reverse your opinions.
- Gaza isn't a separate country but I thought they were pretty homophobic, at least a bit more than Israel. Neither has gay marriage so I'd say neither really wins there though Israel is like so far ahead of Gaza in the killing kids department, I don't think Hamas could kill that many kids even if they had nukes.
  
  The country that literally invaded Israel to murder civilians during cease fire could not murder more people with nukes?
  Man no amount of intentional satire could top this unintentional stupidity. Well done! 👏 👏 👏