“No one should go to jail for smoking weed,” the vice president said.
Vice President Kamala Harris on Friday called on the federal government to move “as quickly as possible” to change the way it officially classifies marijuana, saying that “nobody should have to go to jail for smoking weed.”
“I cannot emphasize enough that they need to get to it as quickly as possible,” Harris said. “We need to have a resolution based on their findings and their assessment. This issue is stark when one considers the fact that on the schedule currently, marijuana is considered as dangerous as heroin ― as dangerous as heroin ― and more dangerous than fentanyl, which is absurd, not to mention patently unfair.”
Marijuana is currently listed as a Schedule 1 drug by the Drug Enforcement Administration. That classification designates it one of the most dangerous drugs possible, with no medicinal uses. Other substances in the same category include heroin, ecstasy and LSD. Marijuana advocates have been pushing for years for the federal government to either reschedule marijuana to a different category or deschedule it entirely.
Harris oversaw more than 1,900 marijuana convictions in San Francisco, previously unreported records from the DA’s office show. Her prosecutors appear to have convicted people on marijuana charges at a higher rate than under her predecessor, based on data about marijuana arrests in the city.
As the political winds blow with her I guess. At least it's a positive change.
"Under Harris, the D.A.'s office obtained more than 1,900 convictions for marijuana offenses, including persons simultaneously convicted of marijuana offenses and more serious crimes.[73] The rate at which Harris's office prosecuted marijuana crimes was higher than the rate under Hallinan, but the number of defendants sentenced to state prison for such offenses was substantially lower.[73] Prosecutions for low-level marijuana offenses were rare under Harris, and go her office had a policy of not pursuing jail time for marijuana possession offenses."
From her Wikipedia page (the reference is pay walled and im not invested enough to figure it out).
If they’re going with the crowd, that’s societal inertia or peer pressure, not change. Harris is not making a big controversial stand, a majority of Americans want legalization - across demographics, political leanings, and income.
Now if she was advocating heroin prescriptions as a harm reduction, or expunging her own convictions for possession, or a systemic reevaluation of our drug law and enforcement approach? THAT’S a change that shows she understands how the law is bad, not this new political posturing to win votes callously
DAs always have discretion in what cases to drop or move forward, along with being able to offer plea bargains. They aren’t legally required to prosecute everyone who smokes weed, it’s just good optics to a certain political class to do so. And that political class was a much bigger tent even 10-15 years ago.
Harris has been pro weed for years now. One of the foremost issues with our political system in the US is that these people are elected by a constituency that demands a job be done in a way that they want. (I am purposely ignoring the corporate donor aspect for this statement)
The locality (and the era) demanded drug dealers go to jail, so she did her job. Where Harris has floundered is how she talks about it and attonrs for it today.
You can be outspoken about a politicians past, but it's disingenuous to ignore that a politician has changed, especially so if they have changed with positive progression.
Except being a politician is also about image as much as we may not want it to be. Biden being the champion of student loan forgiveness while also being the champion of making student loan debt almost impossible to discharge earlier in his career doesn't really feel all that great ya know? Same shit with Harris.
“Somebody ought to do something about this ASAP,” says one of the only people on the planet actually capable of doing something about it for the last 4 years. OK.
Biden campaigned on rescheduling it so this is just nakedly trying to boost their pre-election popularity. They could've done this day one. They didn't. They won't.
Decriminalize the use of cannabis and automatically expunge all prior cannabis use convictions. Biden believes no one should be in jail because of cannabis use. As president, he will decriminalize cannabis use and automatically expunge prior convictions. And, he will support the legalization of cannabis for medical purposes, leave decisions regarding legalization for recreational use up to the states, and reschedule cannabis as a schedule II drug so researchers can study its positive and negative impacts.
I hate it here for that reason. With this being the last option, I've reverted to Google News, NYTimes and SF Chronicle apps. Lemmy's inability to feel joy has helped me ditch social media most of the time.
Oh sure, every 4 years Lucy comes out with the football and taunts you to take a run at it and I’m the one not being realistic. It’s total horseshit to disappear on an issue every 4 years except when you think it might help you in an election to wave it around.
It’s not “Lemmy sees something good happen”; nothing good has happened. The same platitudes have been trotted out for the 78th time. But maybe this time…!
Biden could order cannabis descheduled ( what his campaign program was) and if agencies don't listen, fucking fire the agency heads and hire someone that will. It literally one of the handful of things he could do himself.
But somehow it's 3.5 years into his first term. And Biden has apparently compromised even more with himself and we won't get his original compromise of descheduling.
When a president acts like this right before their next election, lots of voters rationally stop believing any of their current campaign promises.
What do you mean? This is standard political fare… most of the population has the memory of a goldfish, so popular shit like this always waits until the election cycle.
Additionally, an executive order, or changing the chief of the DEA, are probably the least effective ways to handle it. All it would take is a republican administration to undo it all. The way that sticks best is legislation.
He attempted to forgive student debt (which was in his right to do so as head of the executive branch) and got swatted down by the corrupt Supreme Court. What do you think will happen if he rescheduled marijuana?
It’s honestly just insulting at this point. Deschedule the fucking plant already, you doddering old fools.
When you’re done, we can have a frank conversation about the number of people directly killed by alcohol each year. (It’s literally infinitely more compared to marijuana.)
For the, "why are you doing it now, convenient!" crowd - first of all yes, that's how politics works. Trump is a constant heartbeat of bullshit and you need to have strategically timed news and events to stay in people's short term memories for voting impact - especially the committed stoners :)
But also, Biden admin has been working towards this for years. He is not the most progressive anything, but he's doing more than his predecessors on either side (and the pathetic gop alternative) and that's progress.
You don't make major legislative change by firing a cannon at the front door - you set several small fires at all the other exits on the building and then when all that is in motion, you just knock on the front door to warn everyone about the fire and they walk out willingly.
On December 2, 2022, Biden signed the Medical Marijuana and Cannabidiol Research Expansion Act - "the first standalone marijuana-related bill approved by both chambers of the United States Congress"
Biden approved the Viktor Bout–Brittney Griner prisoner exchange work Russia on December 8, 2022 which involved an American WNBA athlete being convicted of cannabis possession on Russian soil and being held in Russian prison.
None of this matters.
This could all be over tomorrow if Biden gave orders to the dea.
Pretending this even has anything to do with Congress or the courts is a joke.
This is a childish view... You can TECHNICALLY do a lot of shit with a snap of your fingers, but there are major consequences if you don't prepare for major shifts in the status quo gradually.
For example, say a child's parent dies in a car crash, you can take them away from the hospital to get some ice cream, have their grandparents there, and say together, "So mommy isn't going to be coming home now, Billy. She was very sick and the doctors tried to help her get better but she died today. She loved you very much and I still love you and your grandpa and grandma are here and they love you and we're going to adjust together and remember mommy as a family" or the doctor can just come out of the operating room covered in mommy's blood and say to the kid, "your mom had her head chopped off by a train, kid. You need to get out of the hospital now. This isn't my problem"
Both are technically the same action of informing the kid of some significant news/change.
I grew up straight edge in a religious household. I was so afraid of getting into trouble, I didn't even drink as a teenager even though all my friends did.
Now my work depends on me keeping away from illegal drugs. Seeing as my family's livelihood depends on that, it's a pretty straightforward decision to never cross that line, ever. So I say this as a 30+ yr old who's rarely drank and never done drugs of any kind that weren't prescribed.
If this changes, and it's confirmed that my livelihood wouldn't be threatened for trying it, I would absolutely partake.
As with all things go slow till u know ur limits greenouts aren’t too bad but they happen and better off nodding off in your house that at like work. Also anxiety and paranoia can happen with stronger strains or strong edibles so take it slow
I’d never suggest getting high at work. You’re just asking for trouble, even if it’s not legally a problem. I’d also never suggest drinking at work, to put that into context.
And god forbid you get in an accident while drunk/high, your job will definitely be over, and you’ll more than likely be footing the bill on your own.
Unless you're gonna get fired for taking a piss test that comes back positive for weed, just try it. It's really not that big a deal. For a first timer, you might not even get high because your cannabinoid receptors have never been used before. I'd describe it as a pleasant light/cloudy feeling, and you may feel compelled to stare at mundane objects for a long time and think about existence. You might also start liking Pink Floyd randomly.
Cannabinoid receptors never been used before? You've got no idea what you're talking about. We don't have structures just for doing drugs, those receptors are for chemicals prdocued within the body naturally (endocannabinoids) that also respond to ingested molecules.
You know, this is a pretty smart way to approach the political side of this tactically.
Biden can't say deschedule it outright without offending at least some borderline fence sitters and the elder crowd indoctrinated with the old propaganda that made it out to be among the most terrible things.
By having the younger VP who wouldn't really have direct authority to have it changed but is directly I'm the same circles, it gets the idea out there as a 'very strong unofficial stance'.
Next step, the 'cool grandpa' moment when Biden gets to make a gesture for the younger crowd by having it pulled from the schedules. Financially the feds have undoubtedly been eyeing the income (and lack of incarceration costs) brought into states with legal sales for a while and would like a piece of it too.
So lies and deception? I don’t know who is left to deceive when this sounds like the position the WH had two decades ago (when Biden was in Harris’s exact role). Since then the only changes have been brought about by State’s thumbing their nose at the Federal Government. I can honestly say the argument for “State’s Rights” hold more promise for marijuana legalization than Harris’s words.
Neoliberals dont want elected to help people, they want to get elected.
It's why they can see something like this where a president could do something day 1, but waits four years before doing it, and call it smart strategy. Even when it's not a political.process and the president can do it on their own.
It's why there's always the focus on "stopping by the republican".
That's all neoliberals want to accomplish, get in office and hold on as long as they can.
Progressives want to get elected to help people, and have faith if you help people they'll vote for you.
There's no sane reason for neoliberals to be running the Dem.party on national and state levels, but it's a private party and they get an absolute shit ton of money from billionaires and corporations. So it's very hard to kick their old asses out of power while also fighting off conservative extremist Republicans.
But when the neoliberals wins, nothing gets fixed. Their dogs chasing a car, if they catch it they dont know what to do, so they lay down and wait for another car to drive by.
Just so everyone knows, the DEA is actively reviewing a report from the Department of Health and Human services where they recommended to reschedule weed to a schedule 3. Biden had directed HHS to research to see if it should be rescheduled, so while biden hasn't unilaterally legalized weed (something that would quickly be challenged in court since presidents don't usually have unilateral power for most things), he has definitely been pushing it not be schedule 1. Which, while not legalization, would be a huge step for not just the industry but for all the medical patients out there who have had their doctors refuse to treat them because they use weed for pain.
Biden cannot de-schedule it. At most, he could issue an executive order telling the DEA to stop pursuing marijuana charges. Even if he did, the next president could just undo that. Biden is doing what he can which is calling for the AG to reschedule the drug.
There are only two ways weed can be de/rescheduled. First, is for congress to pass legislation doing so which then would need to be signed by the president. Congress is not going to do that. It's been attempted multiple times and has never come anywhere near passing. They pretty much all died in committee.
The second way is the way mandated by by the Controlled Substances Act. That laws states that, first, someone must file a petition with the attorney general, or the AG could initiate the process themselves. The AG then sends the request to HHS Secretary to start a scientific and medical evaluation of the request. HHS and FDA then conduct an assessment and sends a recommendation to the AG. Meanwhile, the AG/DEA conduct their own review of the request. Assuming everyone agrees, the AG then initiates the standard rule making process following the Administrative Procedures Act and the White House, after it's own review and the change can be made.
This article has a lovely, if disheartening flowchart of the process. It is a convoluted bureaucracy, but there is hope since the process was started in 2022 when President Biden instructed HHS to conduct a review into rescheduling marijuana.
Of course, I think it's only too clear that the DEA is likely to strongly oppose this change and there are rumors that this is the case. Now it's just a matter of the DEA dragging it's feet before making an official announcement.
Nope, the process to reschedule has been started, it'd be changed to schedule 3, which, unless you think tylenol with codeine is illegal, it wouldn't be illegal anymore.
I barely touched weed my whole life until I got medical access ~5 years ago. I was also never a big drinker or user of other recreational substances.
The stuff helps me so much that I use my vape or edibles almost every single day. That plus the margin of safety makes it downright cruel in my eyes that it’s prohibited in so many places.
But I guess given the racist motives of the anti-marijuana push 40 years ago, maybe the cruelty was the point.
I'm glad they want to change that. I hope they do. Far too many people, especially minorities, serving sentences for weed. It does feel like a bit of a hollow victory when women's rights are being rolled back to the 19th century, though.
No, the relevant agencies (I think FDA?) control how drugs are scheduled, so essentially it's just a case of that agency making the change. I don't even think the President needs to be involved in that.
Honestly, there are many other substances that need to be changed as well, but they need to start somewhere. The War on (Some) Drugs is and always has been a complete farce.
I agree, drugs (basically all drugs) should not be illegal IMO.
The overconsumption of certain ones might be a public health issue but I don't think drug use or even addiction should be a criminal issue in the slightest.
Kamala Harris promised to reschedule it right the following day after Biden has won the presidential elections. She added, "and if you don't like the idea of marijuana being rescheduled", and loudly winked three times.
I think if Biden and Harris were to officially endorse decriminalizing or legalizing recreational marijuana, we'd see a Democrat landslide. But that would require some actual common sense from Congressmen.
In October 2022, President Biden announced a mass pardon for past federal cannabis possession convictions, encouraged governors to do the same for state cannabis possession convictions, and instructed Attorney General Merrick Garland and Secretary of Health and Human Services Xavier Becerra to review the classification schedule of marijuana, which could result in removal of cannabis from Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act.[20]
Once again, Biden already did the good thing, but you people never heard about it
She’s correct. It’s a completely right ridiculous policy based on a century of racism.
Ok, I used smoke a power of weed. I do not anymore. I do not wish to partake at all to be honest. Yet I
think criminalisation of ‘the culture’ makes it both more lucrative to criminal elements who also do much harm in other sectors, and make it even more attractive to youth who might try and quit it sooner.
I’m not saying it’s all bad. I’m saying it’s over-romanced by criminalisation.
I don’t think it should be championed while legal though. I’ve seen two delusional breaks correspond to heavy usage. It also doesn’t help your IQ.
Legal sure, but careful please. Make sure you know why you’re using the drug. The withdrawals, while not as bad as Alcohol (which can be fatal), are real and difficult. Cannabis abuse is also a real disorder.
"Done nothing about it" are you an actual child or do you just have a child's perspective on life? We can't have nice things if some of you don't put in the basic effort to think a bit. Biden is not the most progressive anything, but he's doing more than his predecessors on either side (and the pathetic gop alternative) and that's progress.
You don't make major legislative change by firing a cannon at the front door - you set several small fires at all the other exits on the building and then when all that is in motion, you just knock on the front door to warn everyone about the fire and they walk out willingly.
On December 2, 2022, Biden signed the Medical Marijuana and Cannabidiol Research Expansion Act - "the first standalone marijuana-related bill approved by both chambers of the United States Congress"
Biden approved the Viktor Bout–Brittney Griner prisoner exchange work Russia on December 8, 2022 which involved an American WNBA athlete being convicted of cannabis possession on Russian soil and being held in Russian prison.
I mean to be fair people can change, but this is obviously not a case of having a change of heart its because she thinks it will increase chances of winning lol. They are all scumbags though for certain.f
Thanks, that’s just what I was going to bring up. Here we even have a short history of this being a several years effort, right in the article, yet there’s always a “they’ve done nothing all this time” post.
Are these political trolls/misinformation, or honest responses by misinformed people? And who benefits? Repugnicans? A foreign country? A self-righteous bubble of people with the attention span of a gnat?
Sorry, you must have had your head buried as the GOP's war on WOKE meant much of the focus was dealing with BS like book bans, women care, human rights, fucking basic shit like voting.
Oh wow, you maybe might possibly might think about trying to potential maybe do something. And just in time when you need support, how coincidental. End the drug war. Give us healthcare. Provide education and forgive the previous loans taken in order to do so. Fucking do something.
My point is they haven't done it already because their doners want people in their prisons. It is the same reason it will never pass and they know it. She is just saying words. That's it. Pandering to people dumb enough to believe them. Just like their spill about taxing the rich and student loan relief. It goes directly against the interest of the people that got them where they are. The half ass attempts are to make us think they tried and the big bad Republicans stopped it. It's all theater.
It's not, unfortunately. Anything with more than 0.3% delta-9 by dry weight is still "marijuana".
Hilariously, the farm bill did open the doors for legal delta-8 and delta-10 products -- which was certainly not their intention. A lot of states quickly closed that "loophole" though.
Delta 9 only has to test below .3% pre-harvest. Thca is totally legal. There are about 6 states that have specifically restricted it. I get it delivered to my house on a monthly subscription.
“Quick, our ‘blood for the blood god but we’re sad in public’ approach isn’t working on the youth vote - what do my fellow kids want?”
Multiple Democratic supermajorities, several unified governments, and a president who admitted to being a past user. It’s not a priority for the DNC, even as the general population (including the right) year by year more and more wants legalization.
Until big ag and big pharmaceutical want it, it will remain illegal
Multiple democratic supermajorities? There hasn't been a democratic super majority since Ted Kennedy died in August of 2009. Which was before anyone had even legalized for recreational use. I'm not saying the DNC hasn't been dragging its feet, but they have not had a super majority to just do it themselves unilaterally.
But it’s not a new issue. The harm of the war on drugs - and its disproportional harm - has been known for decades. We are now speed running legalization and/or decriminalization at the State level via ballot and primary legislation, because there has been no Congressional action.
Decades of research into harm, medical use, safer administration, etc denied at a Federal level before you even get to law enforcement, and the ripples through society. And as a consequence we’ve seen some legislation rolled back in scope, because it is such an uncharted territory - DUI ‘testing’ for cannabis is a perfect example, or cash-only legal dispensaries facing armed robbery because they are shut out of the Federal banking system.
Several time the Democratic Party has held a 2/3rds majority in the House and/or Senate. It’s still the same Schedule. “They’re working on it” I know with the review process, but it’s now a calculated win politically that’s been withheld purposely. All while the known and acknowledged harms to society at large goes on.
At this point it’s become a bipartisan conversation among voters, and not long before the power structure on the right co-opts that into action - likely empowering corporations in the process.
And all those teenage “super predators” that Joe, Jack and Bill sent to prison
That's what I dont get when people criticize Harris...
Biden literally sponsored the two crime bills back in the 90s that have caused 30 years of bullshit.
Harris as prosecutor was very outspoken about how stupid that shit was and didn't follow the "three felonies = life in jail" bullshit.
If people want to talk about poor policing oractices, Biden is hands down the person most responsible in the Dem party. And all his "I can compromise with republicans" is how he got Dems to support such backwards legislation.
Harris was a DA, she wasn't setting national procedures and passing laws