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10mo ago

KDE 6 FOR ARCH LINUX IS HEREEEEEEE

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Oh dang, you won this one, Arch (Opensuse Tumbleweed user here :3)
- NixOS has had it for a few days already 😎
  Who's the real rolling distro now?
- You know, I am fine with it. One of the reasons I am using Tumbleweed is for the additional testing they do, so if they aren’t cool with shipping it yet I can wait.

I'm planning to wait 1-2 bugfix releases out, but it looks promising by the vids
- I upgraded today!
  Encountered only one multimonitor issue with one panel migrating to the primary display after logout/restart, but otherwise, smooth sailing.
  Wayland session even seems stable on Nvidia again (I have nothing but regrets about that GPU choice I made 4 years ago).
  
  Does it? I can't login on Wayland at all, which was working on 5.27.
  
  I had the same panel bug I fixed it by removing and adding my panels
  
  I tried using my Nvidia GPU with Wayland on Plasma 6. For most normal applications it seems fine, however, HDR doesn't work properly and some games like Minecraft have a flickering image. At least they fixed the blur and flickering in Firefox.
  Using latest Arch Nvidia package.
  
  I really hope so. 5.27 Wayland is pretty janky for me, even though I use AMD.
- Smart. I wish I hadn't updated. It kinda caught me by surprise and I'm experiencing a lot of issues.
  
  Ooof. What issues specifically?
- Really wish I had waited. Post-update screen share is totally dead on my system. Apps that request access via a portal don’t work and never are given access to whatever I select and X11 apps that try to share X11 apps just have a black screen. It’s sucked because of how often I screen share on discord, and I’ve now totally lost that in both the client and on web. OBS virtual camera can’t even help me now because it can’t get access to anything.
  Also on my girlfriend’s computer it totally broke graphical acceleration in the shell. Anything that uses it causes the whole shell to lag, and it makes any playing audio choppy.
  There’s also lots of little annoyances around like the entire shell crashing when I change themes that have made me wildly unimpressed so far.
  You’re best off waiting.

I’m absolutely new to Linux (thanks to steam deck, which I think is arch Linux), what is KDE 6? Is that like a new OS update? Are there any implications for steam deck users?

Me and my Debian will have to wait for it......
- A few more years tops.

One really annoying problem, in firefox the mouse cursor position is wrong. Clicking in firefox clicks on the thing 30-ish pixels above my mouse. I noticed that it only happens when firefox is snapped to the left or right half of the screen (of course that's how I almost always use it). I can fix it if I maximize firefox then snap it left or right. 100% scaling on the monitor, nothing funky, reset theme/appearance, reset my firefox profile, etc...
Hopefully it gets sorted soon
- I also had this bug for a moment.
  
  Good to hear that. At least it’s not an “only me” problem so hopefully we see a fix soon.
- that's an odd one. make sure it's reported on bugs.kde.org!
  
  Looks like several reports / duplicates and like they've zeroed in on the problematic commit - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482687.

I installed it on my endeavour laptop last night and apart from reconfiguring my dock-like panel and weather widget, it's all been plain sailing so far. Now I just need Tumbleweed to release it so I can update my main desktop!
- dock-like panel
  Had to set one up for myself because Latte Dock seems to be fully dead on 6 🥲
  
  Yeah, it won't have been ported to Qt 6 and if IIRC widgets and plasmoids work differently now.
- My Endeavour laptop got it today. Couple of tweaks and it was running perfectly.
  Funny you mention desktop: I've been waiting for Plasma 6 before rebuilding my Ubuntu desktop with Endeavour. Didn't want to jump the gun, find out that it impacts gaming performance, and then have to rebuild back again. :) Guess I have a desktop to rebuild now...
  
  I reinstalled EndeavourOS on my main desktop yesterday, fresh install, just for Plasma 6. So far, big worth it even though I have a lot to set up still.

Lies! It has been officially canceled. Google says so.

install kde 6 :D grub shell prompt on reboot D:

KDE 6 on Arch has been canceled
- Go away Google

and it broke all my theeeeeeeeeeeeeeemes! \o/
- This is why it is a full number release not point release. In those they make breaking changes.
  
  I'm well aware. I was being facetious.

I also switched to Wayland for a surprise challenge. And for the extra spice, I also have a Kwin script called Polonium, which supports Plasma 6 only in the current dev version directly from git. Some widgets do not work, but all in all, it's relatively stable so far and I will get through it.
Good luck everybody.
- I'm excited to give it an honest try as soon as it implements libei

THANKS OP, I WAS JUST WAITING FOR THAT MOMENT
- WHY ARE WE SHOUTING!?!
  
  KDE 6 ON ARCH HAS BEEN CANCELLED

Other than messing with my scaling and two incompatible applets it just runs absolutely fine. Glad I waited for a week - was thinking about installing it from testing.
- Yeah I had a similar experience, it forgot my wifi login for some reason and there were a couple of minor theme/widget glitches, which was fully expected because my system is pretty customized, but other than that it was completely smooth. Maybe half an hour or so of tinkering from updating to being back to normal.

i upgraded last night! and when i booted up this morning, i was unable to log into any accounts in the login screen lol. if anyone else has a similar issue where the only option login screen gives you is wayland and that doesnt work for you or you want to use x11, what fixed it for me was installing plasma-meta as for whatever reason that wasn't on my system at the time. this allowed me to select x11 again from the login screen and my system is working as normal.
i know we're still in early days of plasma 6, but does anyone know any good calendar/weather/time widgets that i can replace this one with? https://store.kde.org/p/998901/ haven't found another good calendar widget yet.
- there's this updated version with a Plasma 6 branch https://github.com/ALikesToCode/plasma-applet-eventcalendar/tree/plasma-6
  might work
  
  just gave it a go, unfortunately it errored out and i dont have time to troubleshoot atm
  appreciate the suggestion though!

When should we expect this on Tumbleweed?
- https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/1155685
  It's in staging.

Still waiting on tumbleweed :(

I had to uninstall thermal monitor applet. Is there a thermal applet for Plasma 6?
- https://store.kde.org/p/2100418
  
  Thank you.

broke latte-dock
edit: and my window blurring/transparency no longer works
- you need Plasma 6.0.1 and the latest git version of Klassy for blur.
- Is latte dock still maintained?
  Hopefully it gets fixed since I know a lot of people like it, but it might be permabroke
  
  No, it's been unmaintained for a while and probably won't be ported to Plasma 6 unless a new maintainer steps up.

It's really cool, but my sddm theme is now broken :'(

Mmm first releases! Working from home, its nearly close of play. I know ... I'll update my work laptop.
OK I now have LXDE for a fall back WM so I can read stuff rather more easily than using links in a TTY and switched out SDDM for LightDM - I needed sddm-git to get LXDE to start up. SDDM now simply crashes and dumps core - no idea why. Oh and I have switched to Wayland because X11 no longer works for me. I might put off updating the wife's laptop for a while, at least until I've done my work desktop 8)
I must say its all rather pretty and smooth. Scrolling now has drag and acceleration, which is nice. I'm sure I'll get KRDC to talk to the sodding wallet so my 100s of RDP connections will work again. For now I'll call xfreerdp from the konsole. Perhaps I'll get around to configuring KeePassXC and get around to using that instead. I share several rather large .kdbx with the rest of the firm.

My body is ready

Kvantum blur is broken :(

Finally my qt6 apps have a consistent theme!

Well, wasnt it already there like a week ago? Or was that only because I'm on testing repos?
- Only testing. The default repos got it just now

Didn't realize this was happening and yay -Syu went brrr and it broke my shit. Probably doesn't help that I'm running nvidia with linux (endeavouros). Wayland doesn't work at all (black screen on login with only mouse ptr, wrong resolution), while Xorg is now much less smooth e.g. on the switching desktop animations. Moving windows around and in-window graphics are fine. Some graphical config stuff changed too; I'm still taking inventory.
I'm also currently playing with nvidia vs nvidia-dkms with different kernels to see if that solves anything.
EDIT: Looks like that my configuration was failing to set nvidia_drm modeset=1 correctly due to my unfamiliarity with dracut. Manually adding nvidia_drm.modeset=1 to my kernel cmdline makes Wayland work (and quite well at that), though Xorg is still laggy.
- On rolling release distros you should always read (or at least skim) over what's being updated and if it may impact you.
  
  Oh absolutely, I don't blame KDE or arch repos lol. I did see that it was a KDE update but somehow didn't clock the version number. I had it in my head that KDE6 was much farther off.
- Sorry to hear that. Also on EOS and it is working great.
  
  Same here on Lenovo Ideapad(I think) and EOS. No problems at all.

It's working fine for me. I like the improved icons and slightly adjusted layout, and the auto-hide panel feature is great.
Issues with my setup: window title applet isn't yet updated to support KDE 6. I know there's a version on the AUR that should work, but I'm waiting to see if it hits the Arch extras repo soon. My Papirus icons don't seem to be applying, so all my folders are Green but Dolphin's icon itself is blue. I also did get a weird temporary black box when moving a window out of the way from an auto hide panel, and the auto hide causes a stutter when it comes back into view.
1050 Ti laptop running X11 (optimus-manager) through HDMI with lid closed

Pulseaudio-qt?

I realisad when I was trying to install a package, I don't remember what package I wanted to install.

I had to switch back to an x11 session because a lot of stuff is broken in Wayland for me. I was having a lot of flickering in slack and odd mouse issues in games.

I know my opinion will not be popular there but that's what I love about Manjaro: they won't rush the upgrade. I can wait for a couple of months, no worries.
- Arch Linux waited for 6.0.1. Besides, you don't have to upgrade if you don't want.
  (I did like Manjaro's community though. They cool)
  
  Can you freeze kde version while keeping the rest up-to-date? (Genuine question, I assumed that wasn't possible)
- Same here! Been using manjaro for more than 5 years by now on all my dev machines and I really like not being overrun by updates.
  Once you form the habit of checking latest "stable update" forum thread (the eqivalent of checking the arch frontpage before an upgrade) and check for potential "manual interventions" (if any), then it gives you suprisingly good stability. But it's still rolling release and "pretty current".
  And stability simply becomes more of a factor once your metaphorical "plate" becomes choke full and the last thing you want from your underlying OS is to act up on its own due to an update.

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