10mo ago

So many things I'd rather do than go back to Windows

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How the hell do I unsee this
- By pouring tabasco sauce in your eye
  
  …touché
  
  Well that could also burn the image into ur brain forever.
- By recognizing that it was a stock picture of a person putting eye drops in their eyes that somebody photoshopped to replace the eyedrop bottle with Tabasco.
- By putting tobacco in your eyes.

Oh yay another Windows 11 being bad meme, and all the same comments about it too. Feel like it's groundhog day cause this place only has 2 jokes that get recycled on repeat.
- First time?
- We need someplace to get rid of the windows complaints from people close to us or our own experiences when people expect us to use it.
  I do agree though that the joke is getting old but when you're frustrated with windows this seems to be the place to let off steam.
- I think the post is more of a cope than a meme at this point.

Putting tobasco in your own eye is still easier than getting sound card drivers to work in Windows ME.
- I'm a pretty patient person when it comes to technology..... But Windows ME (Mistake Edition) is the only OS that made me legitimately throw my Compaq ESN pro computer down a flight of stairs
  (Yes it still worked fine afterwards)
  
  Yeah. It was so bad that they didn't even bother releasing and service packs, just skipped straight to XP. Then came Vista, which was also bad enough to gain the nickname Windows Me 2 (or Me too).
  
  Vista.
- is it also easier than installing nvidia drivers on linux?
  
  No clue. I don't even bother with Nvidia.
  
  I have zero issues installing drivers for Nvidia on Linux
  
  Might depend on the flavor of Linux, but I had no issue at all with PopOS or Mint
  
  Have you even used Linux in the last fifteen years?
- Windows ME is definitely one of the Windows of all time.
  
  Yep. It is definitely one of the Windows.

I'll use Windows 11
- Masochist, also, Username seriously not relevant.
  
  There is no way I'd willingly put hot sauce in my eyes. Maybe I should change my username to "nohotsauceineyes"

I hated Windows 11 because:
Constant Telemetry
Hogs resources. Examples include: Using 1/3 of my 1TB SSD and 1/2 of 16GB of DDR5 RAM
Tons of vulnerabilities, several that remain unaddressed
Forced updates
The UI and start menu is hideous, search immediately searches Bing instead of my system for an app
I love Fedora 39 because:
No telemetry, optional anonymous bug reporting
Uses only 50GB of my 1TB SSD and 1.6GB of 16GB of DDR5 RAM on the OS plus GNOME
Vulnerabilities continue to be patched through kernel updates (currently up to 6.7.7 on Fedora)
I get to choose when to update my system
I like my riced UI, the application menu is clean and search searches for apps on my system first with perfect accuracy
Did I prove my point?
- I generally agree with your sentiment but I'm calling bullshit on a 300gb install. I work in a computer repair shop and load win11 more than 10x a week. Stock install with 23h2 and all updates, even with a GPU (big driver) is always under 50gb. A loaded down version of Pro with hyper V and a bunch of other shit including office is never even 60gb.
  And unused RAM is wasted RAM. I have seen win11 run on 2gb ddr3. As you ask for more RAM, it will unload and make space for the new request.
  And yes, I daily Linux and generally prefer it.
  
  And unused RAM is wasted RAM. I have seen win11 run on 2gb ddr3. As you ask for more RAM, it will unload and make space for the new request.
  Personally I rather have the RAM left over for the applications to use up front, instead of the OS taking it all and then begrudgingly letting some of it go when asked.
- No, The God would be sad of you did not mention the TempleOS, that's better than your bloat sistem. ;)
- The only thing you can't disable here are the vulns, technically MS is obligated to patch though so I'd be interested which ones apply, I'm assuming there's a lot of vulns in certain features. My Windows SSD is 60GB fully loaded with apps and drivers. Search and other stuff are just basic config items and plenty of UI replacements and tweaks to be had.
  My Debian servers and laptop run way lighter as expected, unfortunately I need the custom hardware support of Windows for some software critical to my livelihood. All I do is deploy Windows in the same way I'd deploy and manage an enterprise workstation. No store, no live, no "apps," no overlay bs or news feeds, just pure Windows. Gotta say I prefer 11 so far to 10, the window snapping and some other changes have been good for productivity, which is really the only thing I care about since I'd switch that machine to Debian in a heartbeat if I didn't have a use case.
- Pretty much the only thing Windows has going for it is hardware support, and that's purely down to manufacturers not supporting Linux so I can't even give MS kudos for that.
  If my simracing hardware ever gets decent support I'm switching all my machines over.

I use windows for work, and I just had to update to Win 11 when I got a new PC.
Jesus Christ I hate it.
So many fundamental parts of my workflow have been disrupted. I have yet to find one change which I actually like.
I thought they did a pretty good job with Windows 10, but this one is five steps backwards.
- I don't know a thing about windows 11 but they'll have to claw windows 10 away from me to force me to switch. Why would I even want to? Windows 10 works just fine and even that I only switched to because they fucking forced me. If I could I'd still use Windows 2000. I loved that one. XP was fine as well though. I don't want to worry about my OS. I want it to fucking work.
  But an OS you don't need to upgrade doesn't generate money.
- I don't do much on my computer any more. But even with my minimal use windows 11 ruined several key things that were fine from xp to windows 10. Things that don't even make sense to be changed, biggest one is the alt tab.
  I work in I.T., and even after doing it a hundred times I still get lost finding the fucking network adapter page
  
  I can no longer alt+f+s+a to open PowerShell as admin in the current folder
  I can no longer drag files into the address bar to move files to the parent folder.
  I can no longer see the seconds by clicking the clock on the taskbar.
  File explorer search is still shit.
  File properties window is still fixed size, and cannot be resized.
  We're regressing, billy-boy.
- File explorer tabs.
  Welcome to 1992.
  
  I’ve got to say that the file explorer tabs are a great addition/comeback, and a vastly improved experience over the 90s incarnation where drag and drop was often hamstrung by system responsiveness (and could you even drag and drop to inactive tabs to activate them and bring them to the front back then? Don’t recall.) Using them in KDE Plasma at home , when i got a new win11laptop for work I was thrilled with many of the interface improvements. The telemetry and “widgets” are trash, though, as are the permanent ads in the windows context menu.
- Learning the shortcuts for multiple workspaces was a game changer for me in Windows.
  Win + Ctrl + D to create a new virtual desktop
  Win + Ctrl + ArrowRight or ArrowLeft to move to the next desktop
  Win + Tab to arrange all Windows and desktops
  Also dragging your window to the top to place it in a corner seems nice.
  At home I'll always use Linux but for a work PC I can live with Windows.
  
  Until you use a Microsoft office application and it is fundamentally broken with virtual desktops. If you try to open a document on one desktop it'll switch to another if you had a different document open. There's little glitches throughout the entire experience that make it so mediocre.
  
  But imagine, if you could just press win+number and then go to the exact workspace you want! Which KDE Plasma allows you to do.
  I seriously cant get used to using win+ctrl+arrows. If i could change this, and with powertoys windows would not be that bad.
- I mean between each good version, and now between each sub-decent version there is a shit version. Or 95 and 98 were both ok iirc and I don't know about before that but 2000, vista, 8, and now 11. You have to wait for 12 when they make it marginally better but still worse than the previous decent one. But each decent one will be progressively worse still but the anger version exists between to increase acceptance of the next one.
  
  I think 12 and the forced ad experience will finally break that trend. 11 was enough to get me to only buy Mac and Linux machines from here on out.
  I don't know what happened with the w10 updates, but I had 4 machines die simultaneously with hard drive failures. That's it...the non gaming rigs got Linux.
- The only thing, literally the only thing, that I liked from Win11 over 10 is that it can run x86 apps on ARM - I could play Final Fantasy XI (20+ year old game) on Windows 11 dual-booted from my M1 MacBook Air, when I had one.

It's not thaaaat bad c'mon guys! I mean I'm sometimes forced to setup/debug something on my family/relative's windows PC and all I take is a pill to keep my nausea under control that's it.

I've been using Windows 11 on a work laptop for years now. it's not that bad cmon. all the annoyances I've fixed with third party software and such as has been the case with me and Windows for decades.
- Does it still use NTFS?
- Yes, Windows perfectly serves the purpose of running an SSH client to log into a Linux box. Totally adequate experience.

- For an artificial supreme intelligence, it sure does suck at spelling.
  
  Honestly sometimes it gets everything right, I had others and some had all the wording correct but I liked that one.
  Example(all correct if we ignore the text on the bottle):

OS are tools, you use what fits your workflow better.

We would sometimes rub tabasco in our eyes in basic training to try to stay awake
- Why? What service? We did everything that we could to catch sleep where we could in USN boot camp.
  
  US marines, we had to stay awake during the lecture periods or we would get pulled aside and absolutely smoked lol so tabasco was the better alternative for some
- Did it go well with the taste of crayons?
  
  exquisitely
- I thought it was generally a better go to strat to rub it in your underwear if you want to stay awake

I'd rather do a LABeast x Steve-o tribute and butt chug 4l of ghost pepper sauce than use windows 11.

This meme is so cringe, fine you hate windows whatever but saying you would do this instead of using it makes me wanna convince you to put hot sauce in your eyes.

Hand me the Cholula

Sense I'm allergic to capsaicin, windows 11 please. Although it's fucking horrible. I prefer not to spend the rest of my life in extreme pain and blind. :/
- Allergic to capsaicin? Dude, I'm so sorry that must really suck
- That's a thing? My god, TIL. That's horrible. :( Just put half a Trinidad Scorpion Chili in my dinner yesterday. Suffering a little today but wouldn't have it any other way - they taste amazing.
  
  Was your asshole crying on the toilet? I know some people who love spicy, but their bowel movements are... unpleasant (or so they say).
  CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

This image physically hurts...

i only use windows (10) for playing valorant (fuck riot games) and it sucks
- Server?
  
  Vanguard doesnt complain about being executed on Windows Server?

Aside from weird design choices and obvious privacy issues I like Windows 11 much more than Windows 10. It is especially more usable on my 2in1 laptop, even though it doesn't officially "support" it, which is just nonsense.

I've done both accidentally, I choose Tabasco.

When I was about a year old I found a bottle of Tabasco and got the lid off. Wondering what was inside I peered into the bottle and shook it.
Or so I'm told. I have no memory of it but my parents had it burned into theirs.
I didn't like it apparently.

I primarily use Linux and boot into Win 10 as needed. That said, what's worse about 11? Never used it.
- Baked in advertising and telemetry.
  Resources hog.
  Desperate attempts to get you to use Edge.
  Decides to auto install bloat for you and continues to do it throughout its life cycle, like their AI cooilot and Dev Home.
  Fresh installs are filled with bloat incl services.
  Decides that it knows what you want to do better than you.
  My laptop just had a hardware failure and I'm borrowing my partner's and had to uninstall the same bloatware 2-3 times today on a new profile (literally shit like ads for software downloads, solitaire and the MS Office extended universe). The rage is real. I usually use tools to strip windows if I need to use it, but I can't on this one.
  Here is the tool I use. It's a 10/10. https://github.com/LeDragoX/Win-Debloat-Tools
  
  Update: Pulling the trigger, this shit is literally slow enough to make it unusable. I am doing him a favour at this point.

does anyone know how to downgrade to windows 10 again? please help!
- Yeah, here's a guide: https://www.linuxmint.com/download.php
  Edit: Felt bad, here is an actual guide
- W10 will be EOL on 2025 Oct 14. They are practically the same, what exactly makes you want to go back to W10?
  
  I'm experiencing a lot of bugs with the new windows explorer. But also with windows in general. Windows 10 however worked just fine.
- (AM radio voice) So you made a deal with the devil and are now stuck playing destiny or a corporate app still dependent on IE6 ActiveX?!
  
  Windows 10 was ok so I didn't expect windows 11 to be this bad😭

Dreading work upgrading in a year or whatever. We use specialist industrial software that works poorly enough on Windows. Only the first five menu options are translated from German, and all the text is larger than the fields so one only sees the top half of the letters.

I had to fix an issue on my wife's laptop. If you haven't used it in a while, do yourself a favor and try it. It's far worse than you think.

Is there a way to unfollow subs on lemmy yet?
- Yeah, super easy. Got to the sub, unfollow. There's a block button too if you're feeling spicy.
  
  Awesome! Thanks, I love linux, but this sub is nothing but windows stuff.

Reminds me of when a friend of mine took a shot of Malort. We had nothing nearby for her to chase it with, so she used the Tabasco sauce on the table. And then realized she had made an awful choice, and dashed off to get some water.

I use microwin and I can't go back to 10 it's just not secure enough to be messing around with gaming on that build which to be fair looks way better. I love dual booting Linux of course cuz it's just easier than messing around with virtual machines.

I'm still just waiting for windows 11 ltsc, to see if that's any better when it ends up coming out.

if it’s not ghost pepper you’re not really getting the full experience.

I'd take the Tabasco any day

Reformatting my Windows 11 machines and replacing the OS with Windows 7 is on my (very long) to-do list
- Had us on the first half, not gonna lie
- Reformatting with ext4
- Please don't do that
- Why?
- I had a hard time even installing Win10 in a Win11 machine (doesn’t see the drive, couldn’t find drivers for it).
  
  You need to find appropriate storage driver that you then load during install (extracted in *.inf format not *.exe)
  Possible alternative is to disable some proprietary storage related feature in BIOS / UEFI so that you would use standard drivers that are included in install. UEFI update might help as well. Usually there is a guide for all this.
  
  I purchased an NVMe m.2 drive recently, installing it into my MB that is older than the format. Installing an OS onto that was difficult to say the least, but honestly not that bad. I had to find drivers for it online and inject them into a copy of my MB's BIOS, which luckily my MB saves a backup of the last working version so it wasn't a risk when flashing the edited version onto it. After that it worked perfectly, and I'm sure the same can be done for whatever drive you were having issues with. It probably took no more than 30m after I figured out what the issue was to solving it. It felt scary, but it was fairly trivial with guides online.
  Admittedly I'm comfortable with computers and was installing Linux. I have no idea if Windows would throw a fit for some reason.
- i went back to my glory days of windows ME
- Cursed
- Have fun with the same pain, this time because Microsoft doesn't want you to use Windows 7... Because.. profit.
  
  Probably a security issue or two... (...and they wanted to bake in data harvesting deeper into into the OS)

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