Oprah Exits Weight Watchers Board After Admitting She Took Weight Loss Meds, Stock Tumbling
Oprah Exits Weight Watchers Board After Admitting She Took Weight Loss Meds
Oprah has been getting away with some fucked up shit for a while
It's her fault we have Dr.Oz and Dr.Phil
Platforming John of God was pretty awful as well.
Sounds like symptoms of the disease.
I have said for years I do not trust that woman. She is too powerful and, honestly, I bet she has nukes.
Well that was a twist I wasn’t expecting
"We've got a big surprise for you all today! Everyone look under your seats"
Audience members find a leaflet and begin reading
"We are in possession of the most destructive explosive ever devised by man. A single one of our newly developed atomic bombs is actually the equivalent in explosive power to what 2000 of our giant B-29s can carry on a single mission. This awful fact is one for you to ponder and we solemnly assure you it is grimly accurate.."
When Oprah goes, she plans to take the rest of us with her.
Literally her entire career, maybe life.
Oprah has been getting away with some fucked up shit
Such as?
Remember when her and Ellen joked about going into a bank just to make a deposit to see how the common people live?
Such as letting a comedian best-known for making fart jokes while wearing a bikini come on to her show as if she were a medical expert (she admitted on the show that she went to the "University of Google" and Oprah didn't challenge that) to lie about how vaccines cause autism. And it wasn't even the first time Oprah spread that lie.
https://welltodo.substack.com/p/i-regret-to-inform-you-that-oprah
She's endorsed multiple on her show selling junk science and grifts. She perpetuates myths about losing weight and health to promote her products. She basically did the same thing on Maui that everyone gets angry at Zuckerberg for doing Kauai, which was buy a fuck ton of land and then kick everyone off of it. She presents like a black girl that made it, but is infact just another billionaire member of the American aristocracy. Is she better than most? Sure, but it's not hard to be better than people like Trump and Koch.
I wouldn't exactly call this "fucked up shit"
Not in comparison to her other shit, but I stand by my statement
Fuck Oprah.
Her sanctimonious bullshit brought us Dr. Oz, Dr. Phil, and Jenny McCarthy.
Her 'listening platform' has probably lead directly to the deaths of tens of thousands of people.
I believe she's also the largest one of the largest land owners in Maui where many locals are facing homelessness due to the fires.
Edit: she owns around 1000 acres.
No. The State of Hawaii is the largest landowner on Maui, followed by the real estate company Alexander and Baldwin. Do not spread misinformation please.
"But she's so empowering!" the fans will say, nevermind the fact that she only seems to "empower" fraudsters.
"Empowerment" is the free square on the Buzzword Bingo card.
Would you rather, receive open heart surgery performed by Oz, Phil with Nurse McCarthy, or receive lethal injection administered by Dr Phil?
This shouldnt be a hard question, but....
Nah, nah, nah. Easy choice. I'd go with the lethal injection because I think that there's a much greater chance Phil would fuck up killing someone (easy, all things considered), rather than the three of them succeeding in something difficult. Simply because none of them are qualified to do anything but blather idiocy into a camera
I'd rather go play on the expressway
Oprah is a bullshit artist. She has always been a bullshit artist and she got rich peddling bullshit. Her efficiency promoting pseudoscience throughout her career makes her a blight on society, forever deserving scorn for the people she helped to hurt. We are collectively dumber because of her efforts, and she gets to live her life lavished by luxury and adulation as a result.
She is responsible for both Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz. She could have literally been responsible for handing the senate over to the Republicans.
Fuck Oprah.
During the pandemic, Dr. Oz's private cardiac clinic in the US was handing out vaccine exemption notes to anyone who paid the fee. There was no physical examination, just a questionnaire, and you didn't need to be one of his actual patients. No referral from your family doctor was necessary either and no need to provide your medical records. It was a complete and utter scam. How do I know? Because I literally called his clinic to follow up on a bullshit exemption claim and they told me their process.
She also gave a lot of attention to vaccine skepticism by making Jenny McCarthy seem like a medical expert on Autism.
I mean she literally pushed this with a straight face
Oprah is the Joe Rogan of her generation.
Thanks for succinctly and precisely explaining why I really dislike her.
I've tried to explain why to my wife, but I feel like I've always missed the mark and she has implied it's probably a mixture of misogyny and/or racism. Which still may be true I don't really know. However, next time it comes up, I'll point out that I dislike her for the same reason I dislike rogan.
Unfortunately, sexism and racism is so rampant from men (conservatism is ingrained into many men as a form of masculinity) that well-intentioned men who criticize toxic and exploitative capitalist women (esp women of color) are immediately lumped into that group of degenerate men. The reality of it is, Oprah is a toxic influence on women and gets off on creating FOMO among her impressionable fanbase. She created Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil, the former of which has had disastrous effects on women's health esp nutrition because he's a quack and pretends to be an expert on all things medical, and the latter of which oversimplifies most psych concepts to the point where laypeople think they're qualified psychologists now.
You really didn't need to admit that you probably don't like her because she's a black woman. If you don't say this to your wife when adding the joe rogan bit, then you're being dishonest.
Edit: Look. OP said that. It's right there in the comment. I'm not making it up. Oprah sucks? Sure. She's like Joe Rogan? Okay. My wife said my comments are sexist and racist, and it may be true..... dude. That's all I pointed out. Sorry, but that's not okay. I'm fine with the downvotes, though I'll make sure to better portray my point next time.
What was that Oprah said about these younger generations not wanting to work for something ?
"My frustration with young women + young men is that they think success is supposed to happen like - That!"
that's her. what a fraud. i take that back. she left the board. i hope that she finds some peace with her body.
She's a multi-billionaire. I say she can keep the struggle with her body image.
“My frustration with young women + young men is that they think success is supposed to happen like - That!”
Uh, she definitely worked hard. She's an actual "self made" billionaire. She did it through constantly working in media over decades. Do you think anyone said "let's just give this young black woman a billion dollars?" She was literally the first black woman to have a billion dollars, so no.
Her weight has always been an issue, so this is only news to her most rabid fans.
She's worked hard. Cool.
She's given platform to charlatans. Not cool.
She's living in her bubble after getting rich and is unaware of ground realities. Cool.
She's criticising average people while living in that bubble. Not cool.
My wife is the hardest-working person I know. I have to beg her to come home when she's sick so she can get some rest. Where's our billions?
Oh right, my wife chose to work in a public library and actually help people.
Everybody works hard. If hard work is all it takes to deserve billions, why aren't all the rest of us billionaires?
Because she got help, that's why.
She’s an actual “self made” billionaire.
🤦♂️
It's not self made if she worked her way up. First she had to get a job. Then she had to have someone see something in her to move her up. Then someone had to talk good about her to someone else. Then through the power of networking, she made it to where she is. A lot of success in the entertainment industry is either landing the role that will get you set for life(think Daniel Radcliffe as Harry Potter), or getting to know people who know people. And for a lot of people, that means other people are helping lift you up.
As someone who is loosing weight it's basically calories in and calories out without eating over your daily calory budget
loseit is a good app and will calculate your calory budget for you and can track the foods you eat and add them up
I feel sorry for you americans though that don't have the per 100g on your nutritional labels though because serving sizes can be deceptive
serving sizes can be deceptive
The funniest example I've seen of this recently is the whipped butter that my parents buy. It has a blurb on the front that says "50% less fat than regular butter per serving", which is true - because even though the serving sizes are the same (1 tablespoon) the whipped butter is fucking half air.
See also the "light" version of bottled apple juice, on inspection of the ingredients it's because they just fucking add water to it and still charge the same price.
Agreed. But we should still acknowledge that losing fat is difficult for multiple reasons. Sure, ultimately it's basic physics. If you operate on a caloric deficit over a longer period of time you will lose weight. That is true for everybody. But on a personal level it can be quite a challenge to lose fat and not gain it again. There are often life-long habits to overcome, sometimes (mental) health issues to deal with. You must find the time and energy and money to change your eating habits to something healthy. A simple drastic reduction of your caloric intake is unsustainable and unhealthy, you need to come up with a good plan. You need to find time to work out, because that's also healthy and muscle mass is vital to losing fat. And I sad fat, not weight, because if you gain muscles you will also gain weight, as muscles are heavier than fat. But that's healthy weight. Anyway, I'm rambling.
I'm not saying this to discourage anyone, living healthier will benefit you in so many ways. But I feel it's worth acknowledging that there's usually more to it than just counting calories.
It’s just not that easy for some folks. Especially people who have developed eating disorders.
It's not about being easy, it's about being able to measure. I've been completely unable to regulate my food intake for a long time until I took it real seriously (therapeutic fasting. It's a thing, it's very extreme, if you can avoid it do it) and kind of reset my eating habits. Now that I'm slowly increasing my caloric intake to what someone on the weight I aim to be should consume (2m calories a day, healthy for someone with 90kg), having the pero 100g indication is extremely helpful for me since I can estimate how much stuff is taxing my daily budget, and I'm discovering some incredible cheat foods (stuff I really enjoy eating that fills me and has low calories).
What I mean to say is that having the per 100g information is very valuable for anyone that cares to control their caloric intake. Sure, you don't have it in restaurants and stuff but with enough experience you tend to learn to estimate dishes so you can compensate beforehand or afterwards to not exceed your budget.
Its all about caloric intake, some people have it real hard to keep it under control due to eating disorders or family customs, but it really is just that.
Not quite awake yet. At first I read: "people who have developed eating dinosaurs."
Wait.. They don't have that level of detail on the labels?? That's ridiculous? Serving size is arbitrary nonsense.
They do, just not in the units you're familiar with. They do calories per serving, and very commonly servings per package (in cases where people may be likely to eat the entire thing.) When listing serving sizes, where appropriate the serving sizes is described (how many pieces) and a weight in grams is listed.
Here's an example (haven't gotten around to posting images - sorry for the link.)
I'm sure some slimy corps here have lobbied(bribed) to keep it this way.
I don't mean this directed at you since you seem to be very helpful. This is more directed at the zero empathy crowd who likes to repeat this equation.
I always hear "calories in - calories out = deficit". But it overlooks that "calories out" is a big mystery box. You can kind of estimate it sometimes. But it's different for every person, and different every day. And it's over estimated for people who work out, leading to a lot of frustration.
I like that you actually have follow ups with things that can help. It's important to have those conversations instead of just pretending it's simple.
I just ignore any calories from working out, none of the devices that claim to offer this are accurate, if I'm really starving after a hard workout or long walk I'll indulge a bit and simply note it down as usual, but otherwise I stick to my calorie planning based on metabolic calorie loss only and ignore the additional ones.
I've been reading so much about how simple it is to lose weight, it's all about caloric deficit. I've also been in Hashimoto's and hypothyroidism communities long enough to know that's not always true. It's probably true for healthy individuals, but with Hashi's and hypothyroidism, metabolism doesn't work as well, so you can be in caloric deficit and work out, yet still unable to shed the extra weight.
Strictly speaking that's not really possible. Like, physically. The body's ATP production has to come from somewhere, and that's either stuff you ingest or stuff already in your body. Low metabolism just means even fewer calories going in for a deficit.
Water retention is also "weight gain" but only sort of. It's certainly a medical issue but most people specifically mean body fat when talking about weight.
You now gave me the idea to maybe give these calorie counters a shot. In my appstore it shows up as "Lose It!", I asume thats the one? Also question, how privacy safe are these?
I'd read their privacy policy to be sure
Do you pay for premium?
Not OP but I did. It was crazy good deal, like £1.50 a month when I signed it. It helped me lose 10kgs. I don’t use it anymore but I use the lessons it’s taught me about portion size etc. I’ve lost more weight since, without exercise and I take prednisolone. Well worth the money for me.
Never forget that Oprah platformed grifters like Dr. Oz and Dr. Phil
A lot of rapists too.
In a world of constant unjustified hyperbole, Oprah is genuinely the nexus of SOOO much evil through Oz, Phil, John of God, etc.
What a fucking suck on humanity.
Am I missing something? When WW itself has added medications to its offerings, why would this result in Oprah leaving the board? Or are those two things unrelated?
For a long time, Weight Watchers has said that if you just follow their points system, the weight will melt off and you won't need supplements or anything else. When most people think of Weight Watchers, they're probably not thinking about the weight loss drugs they now support; they're thinking of the years of points gimmick that make you feel like you can't lose weight unless you pay $10+/month to see if you can eat that food or not (rather than teaching anyone about calorie intake vs. output).
Weight Watchers relies on a subscription based model to "save" people from their fatness, and Oprah was the biggest WW pusher. She had tons of money and resources, was even on the board of WW, and still needed medications to manage her weight. I don't give a fuck, but people who bought into her ads and promos probably feel a little pissed off.
1954: Oprah Winfrey is born in Kosciusko, MS, weighing 6 pounds, 11 ounces. Throughout her infancy, she steadily gains weight, a habit that persists throughout her life.
How brave 😔
[...]a poem dedicated to Winfrey, "Water Into Air."
"As I lose, I gain," Angelou said. "I wing home to a place long forgotten. I swell as I recede, taking in all that has come before me. I molt. I shed. I diminish. But I feel no loss for I am free. My song slips its long confinement and joins the celestial roar. I was made of water, now I am air. I lose as I gain, but again I lose. I lose. I lose."
And this is why I love the onion.
Why is this surprising or even controversial? Weight Watchers bought Sequence whose whole purpose was to fast track access to Wegovy. Seems a little ridiculous to point towards that as the reason for the stock falling. Most likely it was simply because she left the board.
It can be due to both, no need to expect the market is reacting in a appropriate and not overblown way.
Never been a big fan of Oprah, or anyone who bases their entire career around "Look how generous and righteous I am", while earning huge profits for doing it. It will never not rub me the wrong way.
These people may inject some good into the world for a few people, but building your fame and fortune around it is a bit morally fucked.
"Look how generous and righteous I am"
Also Drake. Also Shaq.
Both give away heaps of money… but only in front of heaps of planned cameras rolling.
That’s not charity. That’s using the poor for PR and clicks for profit, no different from Bum Fights.
Change my mind.
First read this as “Oprah Exists”.
And I’m like yeah no shit.
BREAKING NEWS
In my 25 year career, this is possibly the worst thing I will report...
Oprah still exists.
We'll be back when more information comes out about this horrible situation.
School children in Florida believe Jesus walked in the same footsteps as Oprah.
She's a terrible spokesperson for WW anyway due to her trademark weight fluctuations over a period of 3-4 decades. Oprah gets fat, she "goes on WW", writes a book about her experience which is basically a glorified WW commercial. Rinse and repeat. Capitalist scum.
A decade ago I lost weight on weight watchers. All it took was self control. The less calories I ate, the less I weighed. I'm still within 5 pounds of that weight.
My mom has had fantastic success with weight watchers. As has my wife, but with her we're talking 5 to 10 lbs she has wanted to lose. But it still has been a great system for her which has benefitted me too.
Oprah being a fraud that pushes pseudoscience to benefit herself shouldn't detract from this.
I wonder if she sold any stock or took short positions before she tanked the stock.
I'm betting those weight loss meds are laxatives, because Oprah is full of shit.
I don’t think they worked
How much stock did she dump before this announcement? If Martha Stewart was convicted, how much more inside info is this? The SEC should be investigating the fraud that is Oprah.
Huh - a billionaire that lies?
Whoda thunk?
of course she did. it’s the only way she’s gonna be able to do it. we need to stop focusing on people’s bodies and get on with fixing the climate.
Very good article by the wonderful Cathy O'Neil (mathbabe) about Wegovy (she has lost 60 lb by using it): https://mathbabe.org/2024/02/04/why-people-hate-wegovy/
Tldr: it makes it harder to shame fat people.
Harder to shame rich fat people.
Harder to get meds to poor fat people with diabetes, prolly, too.
Yeah, I was going to say... especially when a lot of poor Americans are obese due to food deserts where they can't eat healthily or even start to develop healthy eating habits.
But I'm sure glad Mathbabe and Oprah have insurance that would cover such a thing. When are they going to start for calling for all the poor people to have that too?
I loathe this woman...evil all around
I mean yeah, Ozempic is the death knell of weight watchers.
so she shorted the stock right?
Weird framing in the headline. Like taking weight loss drugs is some kind of scandal?
Taking weight loss drugs is not a scandal, taking weight loss drugs while being on the board of a commercial diet program is.
https://www.weightwatchers.com/us/clinic/weight-loss-medication
A commercial diet program that sells drugs tho?
But why?
'I've got to do this on my own,'" she said last September. "Because if I take the drug, that's the easy way out."
Apparently there's a perception that it matters... You'll see it with smoking cessation too. Gotta do shit the absolute hardest way possible or you're somehow "cheating"...
Wouldn't want people to have taken the easy way to not fucking dying :/
As someone else pointed out — Weight Watchers shifted its focus to weight loss drugs. Not sure what the scandal is here. Oprah is a weight watchers spokesperson, weight watchers hooks you up with weight loss drugs, Oprah loses weight on said drugs proving it works. ???
"I hear the sound of marching feet down Sunset Boulevard To Crescent Heights and there at Pandora’s Box We are confronted with a vast quantity of plastic people"
I always knew she was full of it, "dr"Phil proved it, dr.oz sealed it down.
If WW actually worked, they would be out of business.
Success happens with nutritional education and constant physical activity.
No one needs an extreme diet, or kooky rules to follow. That is called failure.
It's not hard to learn that a portion is the size of your fist.
Read the ingredients on the Back of the product.
Eat more fiber and tons of vegetables.
You don't need a portion of protein at every meal throughout the day. All foods except Oil contain protein. You will not die if you don't eat a steak at all 3 meals.
Go for a walk after dinner, or lunch, or BOTH.
Have more sex with your partner to burn those calories and up your breathing.
You lose weight by breathing.
And finally, no one needs to be rail thin to be "healthy" or "beautiful". Burn the magazines and delete Insta.
Love and Respect yourself.