Perspectives keep rapidly changing

Or how many times I seen someone point to someone on steroids ... and say that they are healthy.

Gym bros be like

- thats exactly what girls keep saying to me too!!!
boooyyy half the people on steroids take them for medical reasons lol
- Yeah that's clearly not what we're talking about here. Cortisol cream for eczema is a steroid, but nobody using it would say they're on roids.
  We're obviously talking about people who juice for muscle mass.
  
  Yeah, no one is mistaking my low dose prednisone for fucking gear.
  Although sometimes I do wish it provided similar benefits, lol. I get the downsides and none of the fun.

It's very fucked up what people perceived has healthy now.

The Overton Window is always shifting, and not always in the correct direction.

Americans are particularly talented (but not alone) in this doublethink

Are you skinny fat by chance? I have a friend who's exactly like this. Bro looks super skinny to some but fat-ish to others.

Skinny fat means being lean but having near tummies, legs and arms. It's common with south asians like in indian subcontinent. It's mainly caused by unhealthy diets us desi's have.
- Wdym by unhealthy diets? My family being desi had quite healthy stuff, so I rlly can't relate. Like do u mean oily gravies n stuff like they have in dhabas? Or generally low protein diets?
  
  Yes. A lot of desis eat rice, daal, etc and don't eat much meat. All the oil in gravies and curries is also a thing. And most importantly, they don't workout. So they aren't fat nor healthy. Your family is an exception not an example.

how about we as a society just collectively stop making comments about people's weight at all

How about we don't, because being fat is unhealthy and also costs a lot of money to public healthcare and infrastructure.
- Making it your business to call out people who are unhealthily overweight is counter productive. People know they're heavy, people know it takes a toll on their health. Lambasting them will only exacerbate their depression and make their relationship with food far more destructive. Don't be a dickhead.
  
  Generally, I'd say that's true. But given multiple people have told I'm underweight when I was borderline obese (and I don't do any weight lifting or do manual labor as a job) does make me question how many people know they're overweight. Obese people generally know they're overweight.
  The solution isn't calling out individuals about their weight though or collectively shaming people for being overweight. If you want people do have better diets and exercise more, changing the environment to be more conducive for that will do much more. But making sure healthyweight and overweight people aren't pressured into eating more by people who insist they are underweight is probably a good thing.
  
  Exactly. We've got to treat the root cause of what's going on, and that's often an extremely complex challenge that varies from person to person.
- how about if you actually crack a science textbook you'll learn that body fat matters a lot less than whether or not someone is physically active and that losing weight isn't as simple as just dieting and exercise and that giving an entire generation of people eating disorders put more strain on the healthcare system than obesity ever did
  
  Diet more so them dieting. What you eat is very important.
  
  Breaking out thermodynamics as an excuse to be a prick online doesn't make you seem cool.
  
  Wrong https://www.ramsayhealth.co.uk/blog/lifestyle/is-fat-but-fit-a-myth
  
  The European study found that metabolic health is still the most important risk factor for heart disease.
  So far matters less than fitness, like the person you are replying to stated?
  
  Fuck you can't read huh. Metabolic health is inversely proportional to fat.
  
  Metabolic health is inversely proportional to fat. Probably more like flipped the following over the horizontal: __ ノ
  Also, relevance? That has nothing to do with the claim the person you claimed was wrong said nor anything I said. But sure. I'm the one who can't read.