The difference explained

Ah yes Tucker Carlson, famous liberal
- I assumed the meme referred to all the interviews being done at CPAC right now.
  
  Taylor Lorenz did a very big disservice to herself by interviewing the LibsOfTikTok lady.
  
  I'm in favor. Expose the rot. Too much of the US citizenry doesn't understand the threat these people pose. It takes them actually showing their stripes to understand what's at stake.
- There was no inter, only a view.
- Ideologically speaking, in the broad senses of "socialism, liberalism, and fascism," yes, Tucker pretends to be a liberal. That is what American conservativism should be conserving, as that's what the American Experiment is, liberalism.
- I was just imagining him holding Putin over a fire, while Reddit looks on and shouts, "cast him into the flames!"
  
  Why reddit in particular?

I don't understand the memes connection between liberals and fascism.
- Maybe like in Sweden, where the liberals went from calling themselves proud of being called the enemies of fascism, saying they will hide refugees if made illegal, to just straight up calling it "liberal politics actually", and are now collaborating with them to form a government. Crazy how that happens every time.
- https://truthout.org/articles/fascism-is-possible-not-in-spite-of-liberal-capitalism-but-because-of-it/
  https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/14/liberalism-and-fascism-partners-in-crime/
  
  The issue here is that capitalism is a hierarchy and thus not liberal
- Liberals have a tendency to tolerate fascists more than is reasonable. They believe in granting fascists basic respect as serious political actors. They treat disagreements with fascists as intellectual debates with decorum and rules.
  Joe Biden shouldn't have gone to the 2020 presidential debates armed with facts and arguments. He should have stepped up to the podium and said "this man is a murderer and deserves to be killed." It is the result of liberalism that this cannot be said in such a setting.
  
  But libs oppose Biden as well
- Yelling at other lefties for not being left enough is a long and proud tradition.
  
  The difference between liberals and the left is the stance on capitalism. Liberals believe they can make capitalism work, leftists insist we must move beyond it. The people obfuscating liberal and leftist are the people who want the discussion of moving past capitalism to stop. Don't help them.
  
  Liberals aren't lefties.
- Nobody but tankies understand that.
  In Tolkien stories, all the good guys are liberals. Saruman and his uruk-hai are perhaps the most leftist things there are in those stories. Elves are moderate conservatives with some questionable histories.
  
  In Tolkien stories, all the good guys are liberals. Saruman and his uruk-hai are perhaps the most leftist things there are in those stories.
  Welp, that's simultaneously the most "Enlightened Centrist" thing and the most batshit crazy dumb as a rock thing I've read in 2024 so far!
  Donald Trump himself has less stupid takes than that!
  
  Saruman and his uruk-hai are perhaps the most leftist things there are in those stories.
  What? How so?
  
  Does Hobbiton have any sort of government that I’m forgetting about or otherwise unaware of? I’ve always thought of it as an anarchists paradise
  
  Lol, saruman was more or less a theocratic monarchist with highly authoritarian practices like killing any who opposed his will. He literally used magic to dominate the wills of others. If anyone was leftist in that series it was the Hobbits. They were outright Communist with no government. Though there was certainly still a class structure of sorts there. It's just tough to get a better look at Hobbit social politics. The books tend to just say "then they talked about their family history for 3 more hours" whenever it comes up.
  Regardless, the stated intent of the story was to relay his experiences with war. Not with any political system. The forces of sauron and saruman just represented war itself. The feeling of its inevitable March towards you no matter how much you don't want it and dread it. It's very much how I've been feeling lately.
  
  In Tolkien stories, all the good guys are liberals. Saruman and his uruk-hai are perhaps the most leftist things there are in those stories. Elves are moderate conservatives with some questionable histories.
  I hope everyone here appreciates what a special moment this is. This has potential to be the most downvoted comment on Lemmy.

As a left handed person I don't know why people hate us so much, what is wrong for using left hand as main?
- Take your goofy scissors and get the fuck out!
- You mean the Sinister hand? Highly suspicious. Why not use the Dexterous hand? Surely that would work better for manual tasks.
- Difference in thought is dangerous to the established power structures. It starts with thinking that you can use a different hand to wipe your ass and evolves into thinking maybe the rulers shouldn't be ruling.
- No but if you tug your meat with your left more than your right by the time you die, believe it or not, straight to hell
  
  Yeah but I got my mouse hand for mousing.

...not wrong. Except remember that an idea cannot be genuinely destroyed, since it's not an actual physical thing. Even if you did somehow manage to destroy it in the present day, nothing prevents people from creatively coming up with it again.
Netanyahu wants to learn this the hard way.
Find another way that doesn't involve death, destruction and ill-fated attempts at control.
- A platitude. The fascists are already trying to kill us, we need to fight back. Both sides are not the same.
  
  Not a platitude, a harsh and brutal reality. Though I do agree that it is time to fight fascism. Just don't think you can actually destroy it by fighting like this is all some fictional story with a happily-ever-after. Real life doesn't work that way, only fiction.
  Real life needs more difficult and complicated fixes.
- Netanyahu wants to learn this the hard way.
  Netanyahu knows. It's how that corrupt bastard stays in power and out of prison.

On my podcast.
- So YoUrE sAyInG...

"10 degrees to the left in good times, 10 degrees to the right when it affects them personally."

Easy enough when you label anything to the right of your stance as facist.
- It's like what Aristotle said about the differences between the Rash, the Courageous, and the Cowardly.
  The Rash person thinks the courageous man is too cowardly, and the cowardly person thinks the courageous one is too rash. So everyone will declare that they the others are extreme, and in so doing they build their biases in.
  This is the problem with unqualified statements about who's to the left of who, and especially the problem with both-sidesism. The act of making that kind of statement doesn't happen in some platonic realm of innocent and honest self-reflection, and is every bit as poisoned by politicization as every other political activity.
  It doesn't mean there's no truth or you can't say stuff like this, but it does mean that we're all within our rights to dismiss you as a bullshit artist if you don't show your work.
  
  Usually with the rash, you can get a cream for it from your doctor or pharmacist.