1y ago

Pride

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"Its not racism its history" yeah, a history of racism.
"It was about states rights!" Yeah, the state's rights to own slaves.
"It's a part of our past" yeah, part of our past of being absolute monsters.
"I am still proud of my heritage" I guess you need to have your ass beat into the ground AGAIN, then.
- Saving this comment because they are the perfect response to those ignorant excuses.
- "I am still proud of my heritage."
  Your "heritage" lasted less than five years.
  
  Your heritage is being a traitor and enemy of the US. So I guess you can't go around yelling 'MURICA anymore.

What I find particularly interesting is that the Confederacy only existed for 4 years, meaning to run around with an Obama flag would more historically relevant than this shit.
- I also like how people do it in Northern states. I live in Indiana and I see the Stars and Bars all the time. Sometimes with the Indiana state flag. The fools don't even know what side we were on.
  
  It's all over in WV. The state that seceded from the Confederacy. And then when confronted they say it's their heritage.
  Mother fucker, what heritage?
  
  Dude, they have people flying them in Canada. I don't think there's much common sense in the folks who publicly display it.
  
  Bruh ive seen this shit in CANADA!!!!! like my guy, we beat them well before the damn civil war, we were event THERE!!!!
  
  Some idiots even use it in Europe and Australia,
  
  I thought that was a nickname for the regular flag. TIL
  
  I see it on Ohio too. Go ask someone from the south if Ohio has Yankees or not
- I've been in fucking college longer than a whole ass country existed LMAO
- What I find particularly interesting is that the Confederacy only existed for 4 years, meaning to run around with an Obama flag would more historically relevant than this shit.
  “Historically relevant” or “historically significant” is really tricky thing to judge sometimes. While Obama’s 2 terms as president meant he was in charge for 8 years vs the Confederacy’s 4, I believe the Confederacy and the US Civil War they caused was more historically relevant than Obama’s 8 years as president.
  There’s a whole lot of nasty from the war and immediate fall out we’re seeing feeling today.
  
  one could argue that the prelude to the civil war started before independence, since the Quakers were anti-slavery. even disregarding that, fighting was occuring over slavery for decades prior to the formation of the Confederacy - the famous bit at the tail end of that, "bleeding Kansas", occured in the early 1850s.
  a mere 4 or 8 year length of time is largely inconsequential.
- I imagine it's much like the pride flag, where people make it their whole personality. I fully expect people to be brandishing some form of pride flag in 150 years, though it will probably look even more silly by then.
  
  It's amusing to me listening to an American talking about people making flags their personality.
  This is coming from a country where you can get an american flag on anything you want.
  
  Idk if the Pride flag, something that inherently describes a large part of a person's identity and is a sign of community, is equatable to the Confederate flag.
  It is part of no one's identity; no one alive was part of the confederacy. No one alive has parents in the confederacy. It is a sign of the Confederate States and their secession from the US over owning slaves; it is a sign of racism.
  
  It has been a little sad watching the evolution of the Pride flag, because the adoption of the rainbow symbol was meant to show that everyone was included. Now the newest versions just show how eager we are to subdivide ourselves, which has made it easier for the conservatives to roll back on the gains the movement made in the 00's.

There’s a reason the same people that fly the confederate flag fly a Trump flag. They like things that last a few years and lose

What did they lose, really? Besides a war, their generals, their free labor, and the value of their money?

Pride flag, If your family tree is a circle.
- Evolutionary cul-de-sac.

30 people are sore loosers 🤣

When the South rises again, maybe we should just let them secede.
- They can secede, just leave the land behind when they do so. Enjoy the international waters.
- Even the reddest counties in the reddest states vote 10% blue. Most red states have strong pockets of blue in cities. (Nashville, Charleston, pretty much all of south Florida). Many southern states are purple or even blue! Georgia has two blue senators and a governor! Virginia has two blue senators and a red governor. North Carolina is up there too.
  I'm very afraid for those people if the fascist lunatics get more control. I know you are sort of joking that we can't just abandon them to that fate.
  Also selfishly: do we really want the Christian Taliban to create an Afghanistan with y'all Quida next door to us? That wouldn't end well.
  
  Georgia does not have a blue governor.
- At this point, seeking political asylum in an open air interment camp doesn’t seem a bad dream. It’s ridiculous here.
- I'd love to see their declarations for seceding this time. Last time it was universally about slavery, I'm sure this time it will be wokeness or cheeks absent from Trump's rear
- One problem: You will create a country with third world mentality on religion, but with first world weapons. They'll immediately start a holy war against the north, and if they succeed, the rest of the world.
  
  They can't take our military equipment with them. Let them try to use their AR-15s against our drones and nukes.

I would like to not have this in my feed
- it's a shitposting sub. you're here of your own volition.
  
  Technically it'll show up in the All list, which is how I found it.
  I found it hilarious, though.
- Why?
- Unsub. e z

It wasn't even used as the actual flag of the Confederacy. This version of the flag is the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, which has sort of just come to represent the whole Confederacy now. The actual flag that was used by the Confederacy actually had quite a bit more white on it, which in the eyes of some at the time understood it to represent the "White race" (from Wikipedia):
On April 23, 1863, the Savannah Morning News editor William Tappan Thompson, with assistance from William Ross Postell, a Confederate blockade runner, published an editorial championing a design featuring the battle flag on a white background he referred to later as "The White Man's Flag," a name which never caught on. In explaining the white background of his design, Thompson wrote, "As a people, we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause."
Their flag actually went through three versions between 1861–1865 (each with multiple variations), so they really didn't have their shit together over the course of those 4 years even.

Anyone know if r/ShermanPosting made the Lemmy jump yet?
- Be the change you wish to see in the world

Shout-out to Vexillologycirclejerk@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz as this post would be quite suited for their flag shit posting.

I see something I wanna use to wipe my ass.

Pride is a sin and often the only people taking pride in a flag have done nothing to earn any pride.
- It's ok, champ. Not everyone has supportive parents.

The only thing I know is that this is the Dukes of Hazzard flag. Loved that movie!
- Loved that movie!
  Are you aware that there was a TV show in the early 80s?
  Ugh, the fact that I remember watching it when I was a kid is going to seriously date me.
  
  I think my parents might have watched it as kids!

My ancestors died fighting for the Union, but I have to admit a tiny bit of me has a soft spot for that flag only because I liked the Dukes of Hazzard when I was little.

Meh, The union, Confederates, they are the same utter shit in my non American eyes.
The Union is no saint, specially when it comes to racist shit.
Fuck the US, all my homies hate the US.

I say flag whatever flag makes you proud.
- It was the flag of the confederacy that lost the civil war, but today it's the flag for white supremacist bigots and no more. That is all that it means.
  Read a real book, like BATTLECRY OF FREEDOM, by McPherson.
  Also on that same era the steam engine train, telegraph and germ theory came to be. It was as radicalizing then as the computer is now.
  The south based their economy on aristocracy and hierarchy and added the worst sort of slavery the world had seen (hereditary, based on skin color).
  Fuck them all to hell. Bigot scum.
- A slavery flag though?

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