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I really want to use Firefox, but feels a bit odd

Don't get me wrong, I like Firefox a lot, but needs polishing.

I like -impopular opinion- the Proton UI (aka rounded tabs), containers are great, but has some flaws:

  • No PWA support
  • Bookmarks and history panels are unpractical (menus for both options are almost unusable)
  • A separate window for downloads, managing bookmarks? Really?
  • Pocket by default?

We need alternatives to Chromium, and Firefox is the "go to" option, but sometimes is disappointing to use it.

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  • Things feel "weird" when you aren't used to it. For me, using Chrome is weird. Not a legit argument here.

  • Your choice.

    • PWA's aren't really a thing. Linux, we has a nice 'Progressive Webapp' manager - so I can create PWA's with launchers for any website, using any browser. I think I have about 4 (Shopee/Lazada/Translate/PlexWeb).

    9/10 times I just open the bookmarks in Firefox...

    • Not sure what your issue is with Bookmarks or History - but they're perfectly usable. Perhaps you're just fixed in your ways.
    • You can turn off Pocket. Even when it's on, it's not a problem - but Firefox has to have some revenue channels and many folks don't have any problem with Pocket. I use RSS, so I don't.
  • Two of the main features I need from my browser (apart from rendering pages) are the ability to run adblocker and being able to sync my tabs between desktop and mobile. The future of the first seems very uncertain with Chrome and the second never really works when I try it. On Firefox it's 100% every time.

    So easy choice. And I don't have to deal with Google's shadyness.
    But each to their own really - the "browser wars" seem so far in the past.

  • Yeah. From what I have read, it seems Firefox has progressively gotten worse over the years. I am fine with using it, especially being able to get away from the other horrible choices.

    I use Librewolf on my main computer, but on any other I disable some about:config settings.

  • Hey, I also did not like the separate window for downloads and preferred a tab, there is an easy trick to avoid it, just add a bookmark with the URL about:downloads and it's done (been using it for years)

  • I'm in the same boat! I have tried, really tried, the only things I like are the extensions support on mobile browser, and the sync with the Wolvic on the Quest VR, but it feels old and some websites render weirdly on it, plus the lack of support for PWAs really make it tough.

    I like Brave best, with Edge as a second choice, as weird as that sounds. I miss Firefox when it was the modern and most secure browser.

    • I want to use Firefox. Firefox used to have really cool tab groups, then they removed it, and the extensions that do it can sometimes lose your work. It’s a shame since pretty much every other browser has tab groups now.

      Vertical tabs are another thing that other browsers are adding and doing right, and Firefox is not. I don’t like the way they make stuff like tree style tabs use a sidebar and want something more native (which again, they used to have, or at least extensions could do, but now everything is worse and limited).

      I end up using Brave too, and I like Edge except Microsoft keeps doing shady things with it like uploading images to their servers and removing the ability to delete your sync data - so it ends up being a neat browser that I won’t touch.

  • I dont know what you feel that need to be polished but Firefox looks great to me. ¯(ツ)_/¯

  • IMHO the Power of chromium Is that alone is very spartan. Starting from there you can achieve a ton of flavors from the ultra polished chrome to the overloaded (imho obv.) brave. If Firefox could split the "core" from the "UI" we would have more flavors and more core-centric devs.

  • I make heavy use of the side bar, I have bookmarks, history, downloads, notepad (unfortunately only local) and even tabs there (would love to get rid of the tab bar), which works pretty well for me. What's PWA?

  • On Mobile it supports PWA.But there's no advantage of them on Desktops

  • I just want a tab grouping sustem that works EXACTLY as it does on Edge, together with the vertical tabs.
    I'd rather be using Firefox, but that Edge feature alone made me switch back to it.

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