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Unvaccinated Florida kids exposed to measles can skip quarantine, officials say

arstechnica.com Unvaccinated Florida kids exposed to measles can skip quarantine, officials say

On Tuesday, nearly 20 percent of the school's 1,067 students were reportedly absent.

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Unvaccinated Florida kids exposed to measles can skip quarantine, officials say

arstechnica.com /science/2024/02/unvaccinated-florida-kids-exposed-to-measles-can-skip-quarantine-officials-say/

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However, due to the high immunity rate in the community, as well as the burden on families and educational costs of healthy children missing school, [the health department] is deferring to parents or guardians to make decisions about school attendance."

This is fucking bonkers.

We know it's hard on you, so fuck preventing a breakout of the most contagious disease we've encountered, that not only is bad on its own, but resets your immunity fucking you over even more for years to come.
- Wait, measles resets your immunity? Your immunity to what? Measles? Everything?
  
  Everything. The adaptations your body has learned to fight other diseases are stored as T-cells. When you need more of that particular kind of thing, your body goes and runs off copies. Measles kills your T-cells, so your body can't copy the old adaptations, only make blank-slate factory-new ones.
  
  Here's an article that describes the "immunity reset" aspect of measles: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211112-the-people-with-immune-amnesia
  
  Recent research suggests it wipes a large portion of it.
  
  https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/measles-immune-system-memory/
- Measovid.
  
  It's how they roll.
  
  Mesovidlioma
- Well yeah, but if it gives you immune amnesia then it's like you were never vaccinated for all the other things too.
  
  It's the antivaxxer's re-virginization.
  
  I wouldn't be surprised if some intentionally infected their kids to try to undo past required vaccinations.
  
  You can be revirginized once before you become immune to revirginization!
- It might cost us money, so some of you may die, but that’s a risk we’re willing to take.
I'm 53. I have never met, or heard of, a person that had measles. I honestly don't really know what it is.

As kids, we all thought that shit was extinct. Measles were as irrelevant as smallpox and polio.
- Regressives gonna regress, unfortunately.
- Polio is back too. No word on smallpox yet.
  
  Jesus. My grandmother had polo as a child and was wheelchair bound for life because of it. And it's coming back. All because some idoits think they know better than decades of science.
  
  Is polio really back? I haven't heard anything about it in years except the drive to finally eradicate it.
- My mom lost a brother to measles in the 50s. She is hard core pro-vacination, and will to this day proudly show off the scar from getting one of the first polio vaccines.
- I'm a bit younger than you but I remember measles was something recent when I was a kid, but it also wasn't something that any of my contemporaries caught. This is what happens when you spend 40 years telling everyone that their opinion matters; your opinion doesn't mean shit when it goes against verifiable scientific research.
- I'm 37 and was born immunocompromised so didn't get any vaccines when I was younger. I went on to get measles and mumps. Measles almost killed me. Honestly, fuck antivaxxers, they can all go get fucked.
- I'm around your age and didn't have measles but did have mumps (the other M in the MMR shot) and everyone I knew had chicken pox. I don't know how the immunizations worked back then (what the schedule was) we did get the shots. Had mumps as a preschooler, chicken pox around 7. Uncomplicated both times, my brothers were younger when the chicken pox came through and had it worse.
  
  Smallpox and chicken pox are different diseases.
This state is being ran by trash people, same as the rest of the red states.

Edit: All of you getting excited to see Florida get destroyed can fuck right off, normal people who don't vote for conservatives live here too, grow tf up and stop treating these things like it's team sports. The GOP is the problem, not some random citizens of the states they hold hostage.
- The only positive aspect of climate change is that it will largely take care of Florida.
  
  Just gotta keep em from migrating northward.
  
  /s
  
  They'll just migrate deeper into the country then. It's too gradual to take care of much.
  
  Thanks for hoping that my family and I lose our homes, dick.
Ladapo is a quack that should be thrown in jail for child endangerment.
The pro life party, ladies and gentlemen.
Oh, so it's a death cult now? Cool, cool cool...
- 🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀
  
  Lol, I appreciate the format
- Been a death cult. Any pro-life stance they have is to create more soldiers for the forever war.
  
  They don't believe anyone should have a decent life, because then they wouldn't be driven to die to get to heaven.
  
  They don't want to provide education beyond what's needed to believe your pastor regarding his interpretation of the Bible. If you want education, they want to force you into the army for, you guessed it, forever war.
  
  They worship a god who begat himself just to sacrifice himself to himself, to "save" us from the sin that he orchestrated. And every one of their policies mirrors this "logic."
  
  There are Christians who believe that Jesus is the embodiment of God's love, grace, forgiveness, charity, etc. But they're not the ones in control of the churches, or any of the "seven mountains."
- What a pointless edit.
  
  Well some people are stupid and write mean things on the internet so....ya know
I hate my state so much man. Nothing but the worst of the worst here.
- As someone who lives in Texas, I can sympathize.
  
  Appreciate you both. Edit: from coastal elite ivory tower
In fairness to them, they are consistent when it comes to ignoring science.
- Pray the measles away does have a catchy tune. I feel bad for the kids that are about to die, not their fault.
Man. Florida fucking sucks.
- Bugs Bunny was right, we should just saw it off and push it into the ocean
Waiting for the responsible parents who pulled their kids out to get charged for truancy.
Yeah this checks out for Florida. I wouldn’t be surprised if the vaccination rate declines over the next few years. Talk about having a burr up your ass from Covid vaccines.
almost /nottheonion material with the post about permission forms for teens to watch kids movies in school next to this one
What the hell is wrong over there? At the moment i think every news article considering the US is making me shaking my head harder...
- I mean most people from the US ask "What the hell is wrong over there?" About Florida pretty regularly. So clearly the other 49 states also have no clue either.
- We've got a little trouble with an apocalyptic death cult. I mean, we would send them back to you guys...
"My kid got measles and it's my fault, can I get a WHOOP WHOOP"
- Best I can do is whooping cough.
I have to get out of this state before it kills me.
- Panic?
Can the rest of the country have a standing quarantine of Florida?
Is someone trying to cull all the stupid people...?
- It's not stupid people. It's innocent children. Especially if you consider the fact that vaccines are not 100% effective (so you might get it and still be susceptible to catching it) and some people have legitimate health reasons they can't get the vaccine. It's these kids of innocent people who could also get fucked.
  
  It's not like conservatives are above eugenics.
  
  The MMR vaccine is very safe and effective. Two doses of MMR vaccine are about 97% effective at preventing measles; one dose is about 93% effective. Source
  
  Sorry but that's a really dumb take. So you're saying that 97% effectiveness isn't good enough so we shouldn't bother at all?
Do we have enough paper to print darwin awards?
- I don't think the Darwin Awards apply here if it wasn't the decision of the deceased (child) to do the stupid thing, but of the parent(s). I would rather consider a "murder your child / make them handicapped for life" award in the form of a trial and imprisonment for endangering your child.
  
  Maybe the parents could get Darwin awards for still managing to prevent their genes from propagating.
- Gonna have to dust off the ole Herman Cain Award in short order. I for one am excited for a second round of schadenfreude.
  
  I love it especially later in the election season.
I’m pretty okay with where Florida is going. Just keep it in Florida
- Yeah, we should be good until climate refugee crisis in 2029.
  
  Poor Canada is going to have a border problem 😅
  
  Americans will suddenly be offended they can’t just go to Canada to live and work.
- Unfortunately this is affecting kids. The ignorant adults can Darwin themselves however they want.

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