Houthis reportedly sink British ship in Red Sea
Houthis reportedly sink British ship in Red Sea
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Houthis reportedly sink British ship in Red Sea
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might actually be an achievement if it wasn't a defenseless cargo ship crewed by civilians.
Wake me up when they pick a fight with a vessel that can fight back... cowards
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That's not the point of terrorism. You don't pick fights with those that can fight back. You do it to make others fear you. And the fact that a lot of ships are going around the horn of Africa instead of through the Red Sea means the their terrorism is working.
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It's a legitimate military strategy to disrupt trade and supply.
I don't condone this by any means but "terrorism" is not a synonym for "violence we don't like".
This is terrorism, it's asymmetric warfare by a military that controls a territory the size of Ireland.
The west has been involved in bombing Yemen for years now.
We call it strikes against "terrorists" and "rebels" but if you live there it's just war.
It's worth noting that there are only 2 ways a war ends. A negotiated peace, or one side being wiped out. I'd rather we didn't wipe out a large part of a country. So I'd like us to skip straight to diplomatic talks.
Our first demand would likely be to de-escalate and cease violence.
The first demand from the Houthis would probably be to stop supplying Saudi Arabia with weapons to use against them. And also to cease violence.
Beyond that it gets complicated. Not a simplistic story of terrorists and bogeymen.
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That definition makes Israel terrorists against the Palestinians, which is... Spot on, actually.
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I really wish they'd stop referring to the Houthis as "rebels". Like, it is technically correct. They are rebelling against the globally recognized government in the country they live in. But it gives the impression that this is a rag tag group of dudes with a few AKs instead of the reality which is that they are decently funded military with a territory the size of Ireland under their control.
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They are called Ansar Allah. You're spot on about the rag tag look, though, and that's propaganda to make them seem illegitimate and hide the fact that they have widespread support in their country (which, incidentally, rose during the Saudi led and U.S. backed demolition of Yemen over the past 8 or so years). People who are paying attention will notice a discrepancy between words (rag tag Houthi rebels shoot rockets indiscriminately at passing ships) and actions (we need a 12 or however many country coalition to go after these guys and will probably end up continuing to bomb one of the poorest countries on the planet with the most advanced arsenal the world has ever seen).
I do like what another commenter said, though. Something along the lines of "let the Marshall Islands and Belize military go protect those ships, don't use our tax money to protect the property of tax evaders".
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So if the term they use is correct but you don't like it, what would you like them to say?
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Houthi militia, Houthi army, Houthi military...
You know, whatever.
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Was it really a British ship, or was it a ship running under Liberian or Lagos or whatever cheap flag, but owned by a British company?
If it ran under the British flag, then it would have been the British marines' job to defend it. OK.
If it ran under the Flag of Panama, Liberia, Lagos, or whatever, it would have been their responsibility.
None of the tax evasion flags countries have a ship there to defend what would be their duty to defend. Instead, we finance and endanger our military to protect tax evaders' ships.
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This says it's under the Belize flag.
https://news.usni.org/2024/02/20/british-owned-cargo-ship-damaged-by-houthi-missiles-crew-evacuated
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"The private security firm Ambrey reported the British-registered, Lebanese-operated cargo ship had been on its way to Bulgaria after leaving Khorfakkan in the United Arab Emirates. "
This ship didn't have a damn thing to do with Israel.
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I'm sure the assistant engineer had a smartphone with a bookmark to a webpage about something that was made by Israel. So there.
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Not sure if you paid any attention the last months but the Brits joined America in their war on Yemen. They started bombing Yemen along with America to help israel's Genocide.
And Britain subsequently got put on the Blocked Countries list
It's truly astounding that you think Britain should just be able to bomb Yemen and not expect retaliation.
How do the cool libs say it again, FAFO?
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This was a Lebanese operated, British registered ship. I think the Houthis, supposedly in opposition to Israel, just killed people from Lebanon... which is also in opposition to Israel.
This is yet another reason why you don't attack civilians. In a globalized world, people from any country can be working "under the flag" of another country. They just attacked civilians of a nation that has also been attacked by Israel.
Lebanon would be in full rights to attack the Houthis in retaliation. As you put it, they fucked around, and they may find out.
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Hope they rain down hell on these motherfuckers
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Have you not paid attention to their situation in the last decade at all? They've been bombed, starved to a famine and everything else that could be thought up with the help of Saudi Arabia and the US. If you think people have been "playing nice" with them so far you're incredibly far off.
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I mean it's not like folks haven't been trying. Saudi Arabia has been bombing them for quite a few years to quite little effect.
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In every official statement they say that their attacks will continue until "the Israeli aggression on the Gaza Strip stops, and medicine and food enter the Strip." With the entry of the international coalition to fight against Yemen, the Houthis announced that American and British targets in the Red Sea also were legitimate targets.
Their "demands" are pretty reasonable. They are a pretty shit (islamic) regime but they are "just" imposing sanctions against Israel.
The ICJ order states that Israel HAS to stop killing Palestinians and provide humanitarian aid. So Yemen imposing sanctions is legally absolutely justified. Instead the US and all the countries removing funding from UNWRA are making themselves complicit in genocide.
So it's the US and the UK who are the aggressors here. They have also attached the Houthis for a decade. Also note that the Houthies are not a proxy for Iran, and what they are doing here is in their own political interest to stay popular with their own people. Israel is really fucking up the region.
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What kind of drugs are you eating to make bombing civilian vessels and killing really innocent people sounds okay because something somewhere else is happening. It's as if I keep beating your ass until mayor of your city bans flower pots on the streets. Completely insane and disconnected.
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