Israeli rappers call for death of Dua Lipa, Bella Hadid and Mia Khalifa in chart-topping anthem

Can we stop acting like Israel is fucking normal? This shit doesn’t even happen in the US.

"This shit doesn't even happen in the US"

Ok, Trump aside, do you remember the US response to the 9-11 attacks?

Israel is bang out of order, but it doesn't help that the groundwork for dealing with "terrorists" on a global scale was laid by the US.

Remember renaming French fries to "Freedom Fries" because the French dared to oppose the invasion of Iraq, a country that had very little to do with the terrorist act?
- I remember it very well. They did plenty of cringe stuff including burning Dixie Chicks CDs, sure.
  
  But I don't remember them having a chart-topping song about murdering women in other countries they were not at war with, let alone women who were citizens of nations that are their own allies.
- Dutch guy here. We had our own 9/11 event when Russians shot MH17 out of the air which contained 200 Dutch people. You know what we did? We prosecuted those responsible (in absentia) and they will be arrested once they enter Dutch soil. No kids were harmed in the process (apart from those on the plane). Israel’s response of collective punishment is bad shit crazy!
- You would think that someone would look at the last 20 years of war on terror and conclude that maybe you shouldn't handle it the way the US did.
- Yeah you could argue that what Israel is doing is much smaller in terms of body count. Iraq and Afghanistan cost million lives+ and many more ruined. Israel is only at 30-40k so far.
  
  But the quality bluntness of propaganda and cruelty of warfare is definitely different. The palestinian people have been imprisoned on a tiny strip of land and have nowhere to go.
  
  I've been wondering why nobody has brought this clear comparison up before. The progressive left knows this will only antagonize the right wing. Since the objective is to save innocent civilian lives and get a ceasefire and not to score political points, they don't draw the parallel.
  
  And the liberals and right wing are excusing Israels behavior because subconsciously they know they did the same thing. So if Israel is guilty, so is the US.
  
  The only one getting political points from the comparison is Russia to keep the atrocity by Israel going, damage the Reputation of the US and distract from their own war. Well or Israel possibly. Not accusing you at all, just musing from an "information warfare" perspective.
- "Very little"?
It happens everywhere, with increasing frequency. Depending on who's calling for killing who, it's either praised or giggled at or condemned. Off the top of my head...

Snoop Dogg had a mock execution of Trump, where he shot a Trump caricature clown in the head

In South Africa, there are prominent groups dancing around & chanting, "Kill the Boer! The farmer! SHOOT to KILL!! Brrrrrrrap!" But this has been justified because it's "an old cultural chant", totally not a threat. Malema has been called out for this, and he has reassured everyone, "We Have Not Called For The Killing Of White People... At Least For Now" But he "cannot 'guarantee' what will happen in the future".
- These aren’t really apt comparisons. None of the them are calling for the military to go and kill a citizen of another country.
- "shot in the head" that's misrepresentation big time. He shoots a gun towards the clowns head but it's one of those gag guns with a flag coming out with the word "bang" on it... Which rhymes with Trump being depicted as a clown. It's far more metaphorical than the other examples and you need to be pretty fucking dense to see it as a call for violence against Trump or anyone else.
  
  The Israeli one and the South African ones are in my opinion comparable in that they both call for explicit violence and their only defense is basically "it's art, I can do what I want"
- You're right, it's not a national thing, but it's not okay. The one with Snoop Dogg is a bit different though, because Trump is also inciting violence, so he made himself a legitimate target for responses like that.
- Based GWAR cutting off Bush’s head onstage and spraying us all with blood
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I wish I could agree, but we've got some fucked up shit top the country music charts from time to time.
- I don’t think any of the fucked up countries song of the last 5 years get close to this. People forget 9/11 was over 20 years ago, that’s an entire generation worth of change. Disney was racist in the past, doesn’t mean it’s an excuse for others to be racists now.
Or if it does, it usually gets shut down immediately.
- That’s what I meant; sure there may have been songs with this stuff in them but they rarely become if ever have become hits. Usually it’s a career killer.
Totally normal and kool.
War on Terror
- The US Attorney General John Ashcroft singing his wonderfully jingoistic 2002 masterpiece "Let the Eagle Soar"
  
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Why is it so fucking hard for the U.S. to see Israel for what it is. I mean, as an agnostic I know exactly why, but I still have to ask my country why we can't call out genocide when we can fucking see it?

It's like sitting on the sidelines of the holocaust and just saying...well...we have interests in that region, so let's hold on a minute.

We didn't get involved in WW2 because of the Holocaust. There were plenty of newspaper articles about it all over the country well before Pearl Harbor, and nothing was done until we were attacked directly.
Because the US supports genocide.
- Damn. You beat me. I’m gonna leave my post for critical support.
- nuh uh! edit: apparently /s is required for obviously sarcastic remarks now
If there is one thing this whole affair is bringing up in the West is just how extremelly racist even the people who loudly proclaim themselves as "progressives" really are.

You see it when they pull out the anti-semite card to try and bat away criticism of Israel: even if Israel indeed represented all Jews (itself a racist assumption because it presumes "all Jews are the same and think the same"), the etnicity of the people mass murdering civilians because of their etnicity, having any weight on ones judgment of their actions is incredibly racist (of the "different weights for different races" kind).

Personally what I see is people who never stopped being prejudiced racists who judge people on their etnicity rather than their actual actions, only some etnic groups became less fashionable to overly be racist against whilst others did not - the architecture of racism is still well in place and in use, it's just that for certain etnicities the prejudices changed.
- How on earth did you come up with the idea that this is a progressive thing? It's overwhelmingly conservatives and neoliberals using the "anti-Semitism" charge in defense of genocide.
It’s America’s lost cause fallacy overseas. Somehow there’s a chunk of the population that seems to overlook the reality of what’s happening and attribute it to Israel’s desire to exist when the reality is it wants to pursue its apartheid and genocide.
Because the United States is genocidal and proto-fascist too. Where do you think Israel learned it? And before you go “not us,” think about how Israeli’s don’t recognize their fascism.

Israel….what a shithole nightmare

Israel...is real? We should turn that into a meme after that piece of land gets erased by a meteor like in a Bible /s
- I think the only question is if you're real

Is this a case of "if you call us genocidal, we'll kill you too"?

Sounds a lot like terrorism.
- Sounds genocidal

"in a song which has shot to the top of charts in Israel."

Tell me again about how the government and Hamas are the bad guys, and the Israeli people only want peace.

They're not listening to Matisyahu - One Day anymore that's for sure...

“They made us out to be a bunch of Jewish fascists who want to kill Arabs,” he said in an interview with Ynet. “We’re representing the country, and this song raises morale

Just once I'd like journalists to point out nonsense non-sequitur. Fascism is exactly a belief in superiority of one's national or racial identity and the inferiority of others. Then they immediately position themselves as victims again.

Friendly reminder to all that one of the core principles in being Jewish is a belief that you are the chosen children of G-d. Many take that for the bullshit that it is but rest assured there are more Jews than you would care to admit that believe it.

Source - my ex is Jewish and I have 3 kids that are the chosen children of G-d and I am not. Should we all die I don't get to be buried in a Jewish cemetery with them. That's how stupid it is.
- The fact that you either post this repeatedly or are reposting something i have seen multiple times makes me nervous about what your true intent is.
- With fascism it's always some "essential" identity which makes you special and it's a mythological one, but it also requires a belief in the moral correctness of inequality. I think most modern Jews outside Israel would not believe this. They might be proud of their identity but not cross that threshold.
  
  The actual fascism must be fostered when the conditions are right. Material conditions need to deteriorate, some persistent real or imaginary fear being pushed and then enough mainstream media (incl. social media) has to push it.
  
  I think most westerners completely missed how bad it is in Israel. Part of it is probably because they have their own language so their messaging only gets translated in "friendly" terms.
- Friendly reminder that this is person is an idiot and this is a deeply incorrect explanation of the Jewish religious understanding of jews' relationship to God. In talmudic tradition, it is more or less correct to say that jews are understood to be in a contractual relationship with God.
  
  I suspect this person has a bad relationship with their ex, and has decided to weave a cloak of straws to justify their shitty relationship and the community and familial support their ex receives to their personal disadvantage. It's a weirdly common vector of effectively unintentional antisemitism. That, or they might just be dumb.
They all are. They all suck. It's the paradox.

Still not enough to get them banned from Eurovision, right?

Maybe the rising hate of Christians is going to do it? Probably not though. FWIW this article is just the tip of the iceberg.
- They straight up annihilated almost every last Christian from Gaza and it didn't stir but a mild condemnation from the Anglican church. I doubt they'd complain if Israel barred christian pilgrims from Jerusalem tomorrow

This is some incel vibe from Israel.

We need to kill them, for asking us to stop killing

Nazis rappers are so stupid but every country seems to have at least a few.

Well they only seem to top the charts in Israel
- To be fair: We had a nazi rapper in the Charts in Germany a few years ago.

It is a nation of racist supremacists. Don't take my word for it.

Really good video. Going into my saved posts to show other people. Who is the speaker? Sounds like he was a reporter or something since he asked the former prime minister a question?

But why those 3?? The article doesn’t seem to address it

The song calls for the IDF to “rain a storm” and “strike” a list of individuals including the women who have all previously supported the Palestinian cause or called for a ceasefire.
- Oopsie my eyes betrayed me. Thanks mate
For condemning Israel's violence. Also, Bella Hadid is Palestinian

Wait isn't this song from months ago? But this is the first time I'm seeing it pointed out that it calls for killing these three women

nazi rappers... what no one thought the 21st century would bring us

Nazi ~~punks~~ rappers fuck off.

Stilla? Is that short for Stilla yo land?

Well that's fucked.

A country of homicidal psychopaths

Governments and their people rarely agree. Those that do agree are a vocal minority that's always amplified. While I don't believe Israel should exist, a county isn't it's government and its dominant group.

There are Israelis risking prison and possibly their lives trying to stop what their government is doing.
- Government usually don't decide what tops the charts tho. That's sales numbers

Israel. I have two words for you.

Those words are "fuck you".

This is a pretty common response to national trauma like this. The US had a million ‘we’re gonna kick their ass’-songs post-9/11. Most weren’t exactly subtle about it either.

Calling out other artists like Dua Lipa though… I’d probably avoid that as a musician. You never know who you’ll end up sharing a podium with down the line.

This is the best summary I could come up with:

An Israeli rap duo have called for the deaths of Dua Lipa, Bella Hadid and Mia Khalifa in a song which has shot to the top of charts in Israel.

The drill song, which artists Ness and Stilla said they recorded to be a “war anthem”, has split the country due to its support for military action in the Gaza strip following the 7 October Hamas attacks.

“Harbu Darbu”, meaning “raining hell on one’s opponent”, in Hebrew slang is originally derived from the Arabic words for “mayhem” and “war strike”.

With a middle finger up, the rappers call for the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) to attack singer Dua Lipa, supermodel Bella Hadid and former adult content creator Mia Khalifa.

The song’s lyrics also include Iran’s Hassan Nasrallah, Mohammed Deif who is head of Hamas’s al-Qassam brigades, as well as what appears to be a racialised reference to Palestinians and Arabic names in “Abu Baklawa” referring to the middle eastern dessert.

The Independent has reached out to representatives for Ness and Stilla, Mia Khalifa, Bella Hadid and Dua Lipa.

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An Israeli rap duo have **reportedly **called for the deaths of Dua Lipa, Bella Hadid and Mia Khalifa in a song which has shot to the top of charts in Israel.

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What did dua lipa do?! I know Bella is Palestinian and Mia said something.

Called for a ceasefire apparently. You know, because she's a normal human being that doesn't like to see babies get blown up.

Fuck Israel and every loyal Israeli. Fuck them all with a barbed-wire-wrapped telephone pole. Repeatedly.

Not Dua Lippa! I was just barely getting used to her songs!

we have all 3 kinds of music here. Emo, pop and alternative

https://static.independent.co.uk/2024/02/15/12/MixCollage-15-Feb-2024-12-11-PM-1311-1.jpg?quality=75&width=640&auto=webp

'chart topping'? Which chart? This sounds like more hasbra bullshit

Who are those 3 pretty girls even?

Your nic and your comment have outed you.
- Outed me? I really don’t know them, this was a honest question (and I really think those women are beautiful)

Don't care about Mia. Please don't kill Sasha Grey 😘 Piper Perry 😘 and Polly Petrova 😘