Make a Sacrifice to the Net Gods

Give us this day, our UDP, and forgive us our packet loss, as we forgive those who drop packets meant for us.

Jehovah's witnesses have lasted more then 2 years sadly

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OpenWRT supports 70 devices with 802.11ax. 7 of them are TP-Link.

I haven't tried any of these devices myself though.

Microtik looks very expensive for what they offer. What are their actual advantages of something like an ASUS?

Nobody expects the University of Florence!

There's nothing stopping you from just plopping these on a table somewhere.

The UFO has a pop-out notch on the rim so it can sit flat on a table or wall with a cable running out the side, and the can comes with multiple bottom attachments you can swap out depending on if you want it to rest on a table, be screwed into the side of something, or be mounted on top of a threaded bolt.

I just chose the images that showed the shapes off. It's not the only way they can be used.

Huh? For most homes this is like, 1 tub of spackle, a sample of paint and a paper towel

or just buy cable anchors or raceway and run it outside the drywall?

Depending on how your home is constructed, installing ceiling mounted access points can be a lot easier than you might think.

Most of these APs are powered by Power over Ethernet, so they only require one cable for both power and data.

My current home is a bungalow, and installing multiple access points only required running some network cable round the loft and drilling a small hole in the ceiling for each AP - which mounts over the hole so it can’t be seen.

I found out that ISP provided crap can do one thing OK. I have an ISP provided cable modem / router / wifi doing only the cable modem part and bridging the connection to a MikroTik router. Then I have another ISP provided router / wifi only doing the wifi part, again bridged to the MikroTik.

Both the ISP provided boxes were crashing pretty consistently when they were doing routing, firewall, wifi etc. (torrenting with a VPN while watching a 4K stream over wifi would just melt the box) but when they're only doing one thing they've been working fine.

The only eyesore in ly setup is my ISPs router, which is only used as a fiber modem at this point. I tried to probe my ISPs customer service for any info regarding the protocol in use, but I got nowhere with them. One of these days I might fire up wireshark to see how it's connecting so I can replace it with my own, but that'd involve downtime.

My small ISP (in Germany) gives out AVM Fritzbox, and they may not be as good as ubiquity, but they are certainly not crap. The routers of the bigger ISPs have even gotten pretty good as well over here and no one is ever forced to use the ISP supplied box in Germany anyway.

I just use the Fritzbox as a router and disabled the WiFi, which I do with Ubiquity APs. In one or two years I may have had to restart it once or twice, that is good enough for me.

I haven't used Unifi myself, but from what I'm hering, that's an apt description.

Yeah, they're not the best compared to something like an Aruba, but they tend to have a lot of enterprise features that are mostly functional. You just have to play the firmware lottery sometimes with the APs especially. The switches are a bit less finicky. I would never touch their firewalls.

There is more than 1 way to get that level on config without having a loud energy hungry rack mounted hw... Pfsense or openwrt are just 2 of them. Drop them on a good arm device or power efficient x86 minipc and u get the best of both worlds. You lose on the seamless updates, but unless you are some high profile or paranoic person, no APT will target that 0 day in your network....

When I bought my house a couple of years ago I decided early on that I want a rack tucked away somewhere. Noise was part of the reason.

I've maintained my own LANs for decades and don't think I've ever seen or heard of a router driver. They just have little web servers on them that you log into for your settings.

I’d imagine it depends on your needs. For the vast majority of people who just need to stream video or play games, a regular ass consumer router is more then enough.

I'm picky with many things, but routers isn't one of them. I tend to scavenge leftovers at work. Right now I have a Fortigate 101E

That could be the one I was thinking of when I posted. I tried to find an image before posting because I was sure I’d seen a similar looking ship in Star Wars, but my image search skills are lacking.

Of course, it isn't like you would want to risk a force choking when Vader can't get a wifi signal.

Yeah thanks for saying that, now I just see big man from Splatoon 3

It's beautiful. Perfect device for an installation next to an aquarium.

Google fiber still exists? Huh, I figured that would be another good project they kill off after a year or two

Mind to direct me to the right direction on this? For academic purposes, of course.

Check here: https://discord.gg/8311-886329492438671420

The two most common are:

So you figured out you are on XGS-PON. I hope you love your speeds!

For XGS-PON, there are 2 devices that we currently support that allow for bypassing:

Azores WAG-D20 (now called the X1Z1E) ONT with a 10G Ethernet port

Where to Buy: https://www.balticnetworks.com/products/azores-1x-10gbe-1x-2-5gbe-intel-based-xgspon-ont

Our Documentation: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13gucfDOf8X9ptkj5BOg12V0xcqqDZDnvROJpW5CIpJ4/edit#

Azores WAS-110 (now called the XSS) ONU in a SFP+ form factor

Where to Buy: [Wait for a group buy, it'll be cheaper] https://ecin.ca/custom-xgs-pon-sfp-stick-module-xgspon-ont-w-t-mac-function-mounted-on-sfp-package/

Our Documentation: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UIAgtxkImgFRwyaGDGtISD0JXnxWNvuuNDrnRac6wGc/edit#heading=h.f8l0utlsram6

There are notes and some people who have found others that work as well

You are talking about the same Asus that uses proprietary Trend Micro spyware on all its routers? At least it can be disabled, but by default it is enabled and spies on you

Why dont you give me your Routers source code if you have nothing to hide, Asus?

Fuck, chevron 4 locked again

Thank you

Thank you. I love it when I learn shit in meme threads.

Thank you

I don't do magic and vampires, and I don't mix toys, but I also haven't read the release notes so couldn't actually tell you.

Not mainly

You point them in different directions because the speed is affected in which orientation your receiving antenna is. And with a phone it can be in just about every direction.

Every direction works, but it is just to get the most optimal bandwidth.

Unfortunately not, no. The sacrificial altar is actually largely form-follows-function. It just gives the antennas a bit of distance from each other and from the metal in the router, to reduce any interference or blockage.
And the more open design allows air to circulate better, which I don't know, if this is a hard fact, but I feel like many cheap routers are as unreliable, because their hardware becomes faulty at higher temperatures.

Ultimately, though, it's also kind of accidental. You could build a relatively decent router in such a white box design, and for example in many companies, you'll see wall- or ceiling-mounted white box routers which actually contain good/reliable hardware.

But most of these white boxes, especially when they're not intended for mounting, are just cheap garbage handed out by ISPs. The sacrificial altar is something you buy intentionally, so it's generally at least not cheap garbage.

The list of consumer products shipping with openwrt is pretty small.

Most consumers couldn't care less about what their router is running for software, so most won't even bother trying to find one or even get one that's compatible.

It really is a shame.

For me though, I usually find that most of the hardware is lackluster at best. So I tend to use cast-off gear from enterprises. It's older, but usually a lot faster, more capable and more reliable than anything you can buy from a shelf at your local retailer, and generally not much more expensive. It serves me well, and lasts a lot longer than anything I've bought at a computer store.

I'm using a business firewall from sonicwall, a Cisco catalyst 4948 switch as my core, and a Cisco catalyst 3750-X with PoE for my access switch. I have Cisco aeronet wireless, a WLC 2504 as the controller, and a set of AIR2802i access points, IIRC. I don't think I've spent $2000 Canadian dollars for everything, and I don't expect to have to replace anything for probably 10 years, unless I want something faster than 1Gbps for my computers. The main interlink between the core and my access switch is 10Gbps and I'm all set to aggregate that to 20Gbps. I don't need the bandwidth right now, but I run a home lab which I wanted to have very fast access to. I haven't yet, but the lab will be plugged directly into the 4948, effectively eliminating any bottleneck between it and my workstation, regardless of what other traffic is on the network, since they're both using 1Gbps and I have faster connections between those systems at all points. Unless you hold out have the equivalent knowledge of a CCNA, or your seeking that knowledge, then something like what I have isn't for you (and that's most people), but it works well for me and I have the knowledge required to make it all work.

I still have a lot to do before I can put away my network engineering hat and call it good for the network, like running a lot of ethernet around my home, relocating a few access points to finish the WiFi, and repatch all my homelab systems into the 4948; among other things. If someone wants something like what I have but doesn't want to earn a degree in network administration, I usually push them towards ubiquiti. It's much simpler to administrate and offers many of the same benefits when using it. The only time that wouldn't be my recommendation is on very fast internet connections, somewhere in excess of 5Gbps, because even the UDM Pro and UDM SE can't really keep up with that velocity of traffic. They usually cap out around 6Gbps and only if the internet traffic is the only thing you're doing. Going faster for a home network gets rather difficult with the current state of technology. It's absolutely possible with a custom built opnsense or pfsense gateway, but then you need to deal with routing and switching that capacity and the situation gets difficult pretty quickly. Nearly nobody is even connected to an ISP who is offering that kind of speed right now, and even if they are, people generally won't buy the top tier speed, so the people who find themselves in this situation are generally few and far between.

The thing I like about ubiquiti is that it scales down too. You can buy a UDR and get almost all the same benefits, then scale up as needed, adding a switch and access points when the built in equipment isn't sufficient anymore. Replacing it with a USG or UDM if internet speed exceeds 1Gbps, or moving to a pfsense/opnsense router and adding a cloud key for the wireless/switching management for medium builds is also very good.

Ubiquiti is more expensive than what I do, but it is much easier for non-network specialist people to use.

Sorry for the rant.