Thank you Lemmy!

Lemmy seems like a nice person, even helping with bootloader unlocking and stuff
- I think Lemmy is a pretty cool guy. Eh helps support legacy devices and doesnt afraid of anything.
  
  I have not heard a reference to this in like ten years.
  
  Yeah that Lemmy person definitely deserved a shoutout!
  
  Jesus Christ that's ancient wisdom.
- Unlike that infamous hacker known as 4chan

If you're going to use WhatsApp ( and not Signal 😮‍💨 ), at least use it in a separate profile ( using Shelter ) so it doesn't scan your contacts ( and probably everything else )
- 😹😹😹, awesome, welcome to the club 🍻
- Good point, I'm gonna uninstall it. I just waned to show someone that you dont need the playstore to install WhatsApp
- What is shelter?
  
  In Android operating system, work profiles can be enabled using Android's Admin panel ( I think that's what they call it ), which requires a Google account, in a degoogled Android, we use Shelter which can enable the Work profile, apps in work profiles are isolated/separated from the main one, and they don't have access to your main profile's data, unless you allow it, you can also freeze apps when you lock your phone, ( apps like .... Ahhm excuse me, I mean SPYWARE like Facebook, Tiktok keeps running in the background sending data and that might be a useful for that )
  In CalyxOS you can set the VPN ( ProtonVPN ) to route all your traffic ( including the work profile ) thru the VPN tunnel, giving you extra layer of protection. ( I don't know if it's possible on LineageOS )
  Personally I won't take the risk of using Big tech apps from Meta, especially Meta,Tiktok and Google even in the work profile, I consider these apps to be spyware, and what spyware does is bypassing your guards and firewalls, working in mysterious ways ( proprietary Software ), and finally gathering as much info as possible from the infected device ( in the background off course )
  
  Your phone has a feature called Work Profile that can be used to isolate your personal and work apps from each other. Normally you need to sign in to a company-specified app like Microsoft Company Portal to activate Work Profile, but Shelter is a simple, open-source app that will do it instead.
  
  Think of as virtualized/segmented user space. You can install apps within in, and they are ONLY allowed access to the data within the work profile.
  With Shelter you can set apps to automatically freeze as well, so that when they aren't in use, they can't do anything else.
- I didn't know Shelter existed!!! Damn, thx for the recommendation, this has to be shilled more often imho
  
  You're welcome, I don't usually write comments, recently I'm having this assumption of "everyone knows this already.." but here we are... 🤷🏻‍♂️
  Imposter syndrome is kicking in hard as you can see
- Is this necessary if I avoid Meta products entirely and already use DDG app tracking protection for everything else? Regardless, I can't find "Shelter" on the Play Store anyway.
- Just recently discovered shelter, too. I would have gotten it way earlier if I knew. Had to install an app that I knew was too grabby with data (luckily for one-time use) and only found out about shelter researching how to stop it from spying too much.

sniffs
It still smells like corporate data collecting nonsense in here. And I think I know why.
Spoiler alert: it's WhatsApp.
- Allready deleted that app, if you scroll thru the comments you can see that it's been replaced by signal.
  
  Don't forget to stay away from stupid keyboards!!
  Some are basically key loggers
  
  You're making great progress.
- Not tiktok music?
  
  That doesn't look like TikTok to me.

- March 2014 to be exact!
- Yep, and only 2GB RAM.
- Fun fact: You can put PostmarketOS on Nokia N900 which is from 2009. It should still make it relatively usable, though probably quite slow. It only has 256MB RAM and a single-core 32-bit 600MHz CPU.
  I wish N900 had a modern version.
- I kept a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 from 2013 up to date with CyanogenNod until the LineageOS fork. That thing had 768MB of RAM and 8GB of storage and couldn't even fully update to Android 4.4.4 due to lack of storage space, but around Android 7 with custom ROMs was when I felt it simply wasn't worth the effort anymore due to the terrible performance

WE DID IT!!

I remember always wanting an HTC One M8 because of the dual front facing speakers.
- I had the M7. I loved those speakers.
  
  Had the M7 too, absolutely loved it for 3 months. Right up until a desktop harddrive fell from a shelf right in the middle of the screen. Corner went through it like butter 😭
  F
  
  M8 with Harman Kardon mod (fakes the model so the controls appear) is absolutely incredible. They really squeezed everything out of those tiny tweeters. And the IR Blaster is super handy.
  
  I didn't know there was an M7. If they sounded amazing on the M7, I can't imagine what they sounded like on the M8.
- I loved my M8!
- My friend had one, it was so damn cool and those speakers were LOUD.
  
  I never got to listen to them in person. I heard so many people praising the speakers at the time.
- Mann I remember my M8. I still use it as an IR remote sometimes. Sadly the battery is pretty much completely dead so I can't really use it for anything else.
  
  Is it possible for someone to custom make a bigger battery+case for the HTC One M8?
- I used to love my HTC phones 8 years ago. It's a shame their later phones were such shit
  
  I had an HTC 10 at the time, around its release date as that was the only phone with a Snapdragon 820 available at T-Mobile in my location. It was an ok phone but got better with a custom ROM+kernel. Shame about no dual front facing speakers on the HTC 10 because the single front facing speaker actually sounded great.
- I'm head over heels in love with my M7! It's so good, people would constantly ask to check it out.

One of the best Android phones ever made. Just seeing this photo made me happy and Nostalgic

I never got to try the m8 but the htc one m7 was my favorite phone of all time. Such a unique and simple all metal design. Incredible speakers for the time and most importantly it fit perfect in my hand. I really wish they was still around as a phone manufacturer.

I had that phone, also with Lineage. It was great. :)
- Same here, one of the best phones I've ever had.

Don't mean to highjack topic. But Thank You Steve, for watching my dog while I was on vacation.
- ?
  
  Steve is a good friend.

Sucks they are killing off 3g in a lot of places this year which is taking out many devices of this generation
- This phone supported LTE

I need to get my old M8! One of my fave phone!

Uhm, I highly recommend running WhatsCrap in the Work profile. Unlock it using Shelter.
Also, bad news maybe but that phone is insecure as fu*k. It didnt get updates forever and this means it will also not be private anymore if you get hacked.
LineageOS cant provide kernel updates or Firmware updates, thats simply how SOC devices work...
But good learning practice! Installing GrapheneOS is a breeze compared to LineageOS though hahahaa, I resized the partition of a Nokia phone once, to get a higher Android LineageOS in there.
- It really was good practice, It'll not be my main phone. That was more or less just a proof of concept or a bit of tinkering.
  
  It really is a shame how phones are made. Firmware has to be signed by the vendors, so you CAN'T upgrade it. I mean, if there was a big community they maybe could handle the Kernel maintenance, but not the Firmware.
  I highly recommend you getting a Pixel 8 with GrapheneOS. It has very long lifetime, even though Google kinda sucks when it comes to hardware features. Their a models seem to have actively crippled Cameras (comparing a Pixel 6a to a 4a, it is worse! Not to speak of a Nokia 7plus which is years old).
  But they are the only good one poorly, as they fully support running a Custom OS on it, including all hardware features. Samsung actively blocks custom OSses from accessing those.

I loved that phone. I had the red version. Front facing speakers was fantastic!

How does it work? Have you also tried the AOT for all your apps to help with performance.
- Depends on how you look at it. Before: startpage hast been stopped. Ok. Com.google.proesse.gapps has been stopped. Ok etc. After: pretty smooth sailing only gets pretty slow for web browsing but good enough to watch youtube on newpipe. And no I have not tried aot. In comparison to a xaomi mi 9t: quite slugish
  
  The 2GB of RAM are really the bottleneck. I have a few other Snapdragon 800 / 801 phones like the Galaxy Note 3, LG G3, OG Oneplus and those 3GB make a world of difference.
  
  Im using the Xiaomi Mi9t as well. Straight from MIUI to Android 14 custom ROM with Niagara Launcher. Its so awesome. I still love that there isnt any notch or hole on the screen.
- What's AOT?
  
  Android uses a Just-in-Time (JIT) compile of applications. You can compile everything Ahead-of-Time (AOT) via adb. It would in theory improve performance when starting applications.

I'm about to buy a Galaxy S4 and do the same.
- Can I ask why?
  LineageOS supports a custom avb (android verified boot) key and a locked boot loader on a very limited number of devices, and surely not a galaxy s4. Which is to say if malware was installed on your device it could be persistent through boot/reboot cycles. There will be no verifying OS integrity. Also on a device that's been unsupported for that many years, the firmware and software that you'll have access to is dramatically less secure. And this just can't improved by also not having a locked bootloader.
  Lineage can only do so much to support devices after they've reached EOL, which while I agree sucks, it's a problem that's at the hardware level (Qualcomm and Samsung make it impossible to continue meaningful support).
  I understand if you're trying to keep a device alive that you already have, but buying a phone for this purpose is probably not a good call. Or do you live in an area with limited access to newer tech?
  If you can at all, the cheapest and best move would be to buy something like a Pixel 6a or 7a (or even a 5a) and run GrapheneOS.
  
  How do you find out what set of devices?

Very cool. I loved the m7 and m8, front facing speakers desperately need a comeback
- We need phones to have bezels again anyway. I'm sick of having to gingerly hold a phone in hopes of not accidentally touching the screen
  
  I'm guessing you don't have a case on yours? I always buy a $10 case from a noname brand online anytime I hit phone upgrade time because its just enough to keep it from breaking in my relatively few drops

Ah, the wonderful M8. Loved that phone, used one for over a year.
I was the only person in my company capable of stripping them down for repair. Really not built to come apart
- I had one for a couple years too, back when it was new. I loved it. such good stereo speakers.

We use the exact same things in the home row bar or whatever that bottom folder is called. 🙌
- Many apps and launchers call it a 'dock'

Isn’t this phone was originally shipped with Windows Phone 8? How do you managed to mod it out and install Android on it?
- There might have been a windows version, but I definitely had an android one.
  
  Oh I see…
  Welp, that make it far more easier technically to pull off that I imagine it would be

Well done!

Did you have a tutorial or something you followed?
The last time I installed Linux was over 20 years ago when I repurposed an old Gateway PC to be a switch/VPN. I'm sure it's not outside of my ability but wouldn't know where to start.
Working on remodeling a motorhome and I want to build a few Home Assistant interfaces. If I could use my old M8 that is still in perfect condition that would be amazing.
- Well basicly all instruction you need and it's explained pretty well on the lineage os website itself. https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/m8/ The hardest part was getting the unlocktoken since htc doesn't take new htcdev registrations. I got hellped by a member on Lemmy who had a old htc dev account.
- OP does not mention Linux but a third party Android distribution. Just FYI.