Firefox @lemmy.ml

11mo ago

Twitch is now blocking firefox

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I really don't believe twitch is blocking Firefox. Check your add-ons, clear cookies, etc.
- You're right. I only get this when Twitch can see I'm using a VPN.
  
  This might be understandable if they have various sets of blocked/disallowed content depending on local laws, but OTOH I wish they'd more clearly communicate why you're being blocked then.
- I've also had trouble logging into Twitch a few times over the last year on Firefox, but the same is true for Paypal. Both of them don't work in a private window without any addons either, and at least for Paypal changing the user agent didn't help. Twitch works fine If I'm already logged into Twitch, same with Paypal. Just the login fails for some reason.
  There's other payment options, and I seldomly watch streams anyway.
- I tested this and using Librewolf I was stopped from logging on and given the message "Your browser is not supported". Changing the user agent fixes the problem.
  
  I just tested this with Firefox and I logged in fine?

Firefox is actually one of the recommended browsers, if you were to click on that link. Twitch just has some issues sometimes
- Yup, I use Twitch all the time on Firefox (including yesterday), and with an ad-blocker as well.

Differing experiences might mean that Twitch is performing A/B testing on blocking Firefox.
- Usually it means that OP either uses a "hardened" fork, or did some messing around with about:config like resistFingerprinting, without understanding the ramnifications of such hardening on various web technologies that aren't primarily related to tracking/tracing.

I just logged in, no issues, probably check your extensions. Mine are minimal, includes uBlock, regular Firefox updated to latest.
- Same, just logged in fine. Firefox on Linux from Arch repos.

Seems to be working OK for me on FF with Ublock and Privacy Badger running.
- Same here

I had this come up when I was using a locked down version of FF.
Basically what happened was the security settings were not allowing Twitch the access it required.
Once I went through and allowed access it worked fine.

You need to disable resist fingerprinting. It's annoying, but you can reenable it after you've logged in
- That's the solution if you immediately tried to login and it didn't work.
  Twitch login has in general very misleading error messages. The exact same message with unsupported browser also appears if you take too long to login
- No, you need to email twitch that they have a bug.
  And boycott them if they're intentionally trying to harm marginalized folks.
  
  I'm all for FOSS browsers, but how are Firefox users marginalized folks?

Change user agent. Log in, opting to stay logged in for 30 days. Change user agent back.
That's my routine with LibreWolf.
I also believe they don't like a particular security setting present on FF based browsers, though I don't recall off the top of my head which one.
- Aite maybe this is a dumb question, but what is “changing the user agent”?
  
  When your browser connects to a website, it will tell the webserver what type of browser you are using in the HTTP headers. This can be used for serving a special web page for browsers with quirks, or it can be used to block certain browsers.
  It may look something like this:
  undefined
  
  User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:123.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/123.0
  But you can use an extension like this one to spoof your user agent and send out one that corresponds to a chromium browser.
  
  Something you shouldn’t have to do in order to use the internet.
  There are browser plugins that let you change your user-agent request header to masquerade as another browser (e.g., Chrome).
  
  User-Agent is a string of information that browsers use to identify to a site what browser, version, build, etc you are using.
  You can download FF extensions that allow you to spoof a different user-agent, making the site think you're instead using Chrome, as an example.
- Thanks, this works. I can log into Twitch again after changing the user agent. Twitch stopped me from logging on before this change saying "Your browser is not supported". I'm using Librewolf. I suspect we'll be seeing more of this kind of thing.
  
  No problem.
  I remembered the security setting Twitch didn't like, as well. It was "Enable ResistFingerprinting". If it gives you any more trouble, check the LibreWolf section in your settings for that. Same deal: toggle off, login, toggle back on.
  
  I login with Librewolf by disabling resist fingerprinting, then disabling all content blocking extensions, then clearing cookies, then restarting Librewolf. When you login, click "Remember Me" and re-enable everything
- I also believe they don't like a particular security setting present on FF based browsers, though I don't recall off the top of my head which one.
  Looks like it's tracking of course

Anecdotally, it's still working for me. Using uBlock Origin, logged in with a Twitch account.
What does the "recommend browser" link point to? Is it this page, which lists Firefox as a supported browser? https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/supported-browsers?language=en_US

Stop using recommended when you mean required FFS.

This is a cookies/tracking issue, not a Firefox issue.
If you set it to allow tracking, it will let you login, and you can disable tracking again after and it will remember you.

Now that is a long password lol
- Idk someone could probably brute force it in only a few trillion years, I'd make it longer if you plan to be using Twitch long-term.
  
  You assume the person would never change the password. Someone with that long password is probably security concerned and is likely to change it after some time, even if its once in a year.
- Password managers.
  
  Yup, most of my passwords are like 30 characters, and I don't remember any of them except the one to unlock my password manager (and a couple other important ones).
- If your password don't overflow the input field, its not long enough

It was doing this to me a while back. Are you using a VPN or using an ad-blocker specifically for Twitch's embedded stream ads? (e.g. TTV-LOL-Pro) The latter work by using proxies and so I think trigger the same sort of effects. Disabled it and it worked fine. It also happened on a Chromium-based browser when I tested it out.

Everyone boo this service! BOOOOOOOOOOO!

When I got that message I just refreshed the page and tried logging in again and it worked.

As if I needed more reason to not go to Twitch. 😂
But it actually works fine for me. Firefox beta 122.0, uBlock Origin and Consent-O-Matic installed.

Does it still let you sign in? I am currently signed in and it works
- No, I tried to log in so i can change my password

I had to disable an extension to log in last time I got this message. Alternatively, force refresh the page.

Are there many open source frontends for Twitch? I Xtra on Android

worked for me but I do have 2-factor

The same thing happens with webkit.

Please don't post pictures of text without transcribing the words
- the title describes the screenshot entirely
  
  Fuck blind people who need to google error messages, right?
  /s
  
  @TonyTonyChopper @librarynapper It does not.
- Sorry I'm blind, and I cannot see the image. Would you mind telling me what you posted?

Just a comment: IMO it's not worth using strong passwords on which you depend on privative/unknown security platforms. Who knows how many times they get hacked or have backdoors? Unless they specify they only store the hash I refuse to sacrifice one of my strong passwords.
Edit: To all talking about password managers. I don't believe in single point of failure as a way to go. The fact that i've to explain that xd...
- You should use randomly generated passwords from a password manager, there is no short supply of strong random passwords.
  
  Waste one of my 2272657884496751345355241563627544170162852933518655225856 possible 32 character passwords on Twitch! Outrageous! What if I run out?
- Bro over here still using one of his "strong passwords" trying to give other people security advice 😅
- Sacrifice? Tf you on about?
- Genuinely terrible advice. Every popularly available password manager service hashes all your passwords, if they have a data breach they have extremely strict reporting compliance and the majority of services will re-hash all your passwords. If youre so extremely concerned about that, host your own.
  But what concerns me the most is
  Unless they specify they only store the hash I refuse to sacrifice one of my strong passwords.
  ... What to you mean sacrifice?
  
  Keeping all on one password (password manager) is a single point of failure, which i don't like. I mean sacrifice because my brain can only remeber a few 512bytes long passwords (again i don't use password managers because of single point of failure).
- That is definitely an autofilled one-off password from a password manager.
  
  You can see the keypassxc plugin button right there. What is the thread op on about lol.
- How about just using a password manager and create a unique strong password for every website? That way you don't have to store so much in your brain and you get better security on any website. You also don't have to worry about more than one website being breached from reused passwords.
  BitWarden is pretty great and is open source and free to use.
  You can also self-host it if you don't trust them storing your hashed passwords.

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