politics @lemmy.world gAlienLifeform @lemmy.world 2y ago

Trump-appointed judge gives a 'break' to Jan. 6 rioter who wants to be a police officer

archive.is is having stability issues at the moment so I updated the link

archive.is link - https://archive.is/gHCl7

Original source link - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-appointed-judge-gives-break-jan-6-rioter-sentencing-rcna93170

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File this under examples of why there are no good apples.
“You don’t have anything to fear from the police if you’re not doing anything wrong” Really? REALLY? They are literal terrorists. I give you, exhibit….what do we do when we run out of letters anyway?
- Also: deputy gangs are a thing. Literal gangs within the police force.
  
  Yep, great example of a department with an extensive history of this is the ~~LAPD~~ Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, which was the subject of this fifteen part long form investigation that was also made into a podcast
  
  And that's just one example and one we know about
  
  e; updated podcast link to a source the author provided
  
  e2; County Sheriff's Department, not city police like I'd initially misremembered
- Exhibit ACAB.
  
  Well played.
There is an in-group that the law protects, but does not bind. There is an out-group that the law binds, but does not protect.
- He was convinced and his leniency is due to lack of direct involvement and being young. His sentence is house arrest.
  
  All of this is in the article.
  
  Lack of direct involvement? He showed up! He stole a riot shield! He maced people! He pushed towards breaking into the capitol!
  
  What more do you need???
  
  a "lack of direct involvement" would be something like showing up to the Capitol to protest, happening to be right in the gray area between the peaceful protestors and the violent ones, and getting rounded up by the capitol police who mistook you for one of the violent ones.
  
  Stealing a riot shield and macing people is the textbook definition of direct involvement.
  
  Kids will be kids! They do dumb stuff all the time like busting mailboxes, tagging grafitti, stealing road signs, and stealing a riot shield during an insurrection.
I already know the answer, but how does this not completely disqualify him from being a cop?
- And why would other cops want to work with a guy who was part of a group that attacked cops?
  
  Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses.
  
  cause they see him as a martyr for the cause.
Some of those who work forces are the same that burn crosses.
- That should be updated to "Those who work forces burn crosses".
  
  It's a line from the Rage Against The Machine song Killing In The Name, inspired by the 1992 Rodney King killing and subsequent riots
  
  It also contains the powerful line "those who die are justified, remember your badge and your chosen whites"
WHEN (not if) these right wing fucks try to over throw the government again, we will only have ourselves to blame for it.

These traitors should have been given the harshest penalties possible - put them up as an example to deter others. Instead, example after example, these POS are given slaps on the wrist. We are essentially encouraging others to try again because the general public has forgotten about this event, the media never took this as seriously as they should have, and various government agencies not escalating the punishments being levied.
- They'll all wear their prison sentences as badges in 5 years. You're looking at future senate candidates.
  
  It would have been a massive difference if those fucks were getting 10 or 20 or more sentences.
- we will only have ourselves to blame
  
  "We" who? I didn't vote for any of these dicks.
  
  But did you vote against them?
- It's reconstruction all over again.
- Longer sentences don't deter crimes. What deters crimes is certainty of being caught. We need to get them ALL, even if it's for a little bit.
  
  https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf
Cooper went on to say that Bensch hopes to start a career in law enforcement, adding that it's "not beyond the realm of possibility" that he could do so even with his misdemeanors. Bensch is currently working for a pool cleaning company, and the conditions of his sentence will allow him to leave his home for employment during his 60 days of home detention.

So he's not even actually being detained at home for any length of time. He just has to stay at home after work and on weekends for a few weeks. The horror.
- He's getting a head-start in being above the law.
  
  He's got what pro-capitalists call "moxy"
Hobbies include: burning crosses, books, and capitols /s
Huh. A MAGAt rioter that wanted to undermine due process and civil rights also wants to be a cop.

Whoda thunk?
- Seriously, fuck this. Maybe we all need to become cops.
  
  This is the chicken and egg problem. Too many of the people who would make very good cops do not wish to become cops because of the racist and abusive people on the force. I wouldn't be at all shocked if there's also a factor of the job itself grinding down it's workers and leading some to become racist and abusive as well
openly corrupt republican traitor filth
Looking at the actual article, it was more that the judge saw he was a dumb kid who wasn't old enough to go to college yet. We should be encouraging judges not setentising people under 21 to adult sentences, since the Republicans have been pushing 16 year old life sentences since "they look old".
- I'm definitely biased and I can't read the article (SSL issue on archive.is?) but I think that attending a deadly political coup should probably exempt you from being in law enforcement, no matter how old you were.
  
  Huh, yeah looks like archive.is is totally down right now
  
  Alternate mirror - https://web.archive.org/web/20230710180951/https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-appointed-judge-gives-break-jan-6-rioter-sentencing-rcna93170
  
  Original link - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-appointed-judge-gives-break-jan-6-rioter-sentencing-rcna93170
- We already do give kids reduced sentences, at least white kids like that rapist Brock Turner.
  
  Maybe we could advocate for reduced sentences for minorities convicted of petty crimes instead of people who actively tried to overthrow the government.
  
  Unfortunately, Brock Turner's judge was lenient to everyone -- and civil rights groups actually liked and approved of him for his lenient sentences across the board, even to minorities. Hence firing him ultimately did more harm than good.
- He knew exactly what he was doing. There should be no leniency for people who commit crimes knowing full well what they're doing.
  
  That's how you end up in a society where kids are cool with killing teachers over bad grades.
Protester. FTFY you fucking commie.
- See this is the type of crap we don’t need here. Grow up and be civil instead of trying to start things with others.
  
  You’re allowed your opinion and everyone else theirs. There is 0 need to the name calling though.
  
  Legally that kid was an adult at the time he went to the capital. Also in that article he admits that his group went through firearms and hand to hand training before going to the capital.
  
  I would likely agree with you if not for that fact that he admitted to, along with engaging in the rioting and stealing government property.
  
  Once he actively engaged in the disruption, he stopped just being a protestor and became a rioter and thief/looter.
I wish they would've given harsher sentences to all the people that burned Chicago during the protests
- i don’t know if you know this, but chicago is still standing today. nobody burned it down.
- Here's the anti-american magat with their famous whataboutism. Yawn
- I don't understand why some approve of the beer-gut-putsch, but that's all white.

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