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‘We recognise China, and that Taiwan is part of China’ – Irish Prime Minister clarifies Ireland’s position ahead of Davos meetings

m.independent.ie ‘We recognise China, and that Taiwan is part of China’ – Leo Varadkar clarifies Ireland’s position ahead of Davos meetings

The Taoiseach intends to press for a ceasefire in the Israel-Gaza war at a meeting of global political and business leaders in Davos.

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I hope for him nobody says "We recognize Britain and that Ireland is part of Britain" 🤣
- Technically, one third is.
  
  Not technically.
  The country's formal title is: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
  Northern Ireland is not part of Britain
  
  How is 6/32 a third?
  
  Nope

Pathetic. You’d think a country colonized by a foreign nation would be more sympathetic to their struggle for independence.
- What? Neither side represents the indigenous population of Taiwan.
- Taiwan is not colonized by the PRC.
- Taiwan has never been colonized by a foreign nation, except by the ROC after the Chinese Civil War.
  
  It was also colonised by Netherlands and Spain for few decades in XVII century and by Japan in 1895-1945.

He is not technically wrong, as the Taiwanese themselves haven't declared independence from China.
- So they are not independent then. not even their staunchest ally (USA) recognizes their Independence, so I don't see where is the controversy with Irish PM's statement.
  
  Was there a controversy?
- Yes, but that stems more from the fact that the Republic of China (aka Taiwan) and the People's Republic of China both lay claims to be the real China.
  You can't really declare independence from yourself.
  Also the PRC would probably attack immediately if the ROC gave up their claim on being china.
- Because the PRC has set this as a red line. The Taiwanese would do it in a heartbeat.
  
  No, it's because they claim sovereignty over the whole of China + parts who already are independent from the People's Republic of China. They are not independent, just the old regime in exile. To them Taiwan is just a province of China just as it is for the PRC

He must've mispoken - China is a part of Taiwan, as everyone knows.

So what's next, allowing China to also claim the Philippines?
- Err... the Philippines, the former US colony? Where currently new US military bases are being built? Which China has never ruled, attempted to rule, or said they want to rule?
  You're worried that China is going to claim the Philippines????
  
  They wouldn't claim the Philippines without a war.
  But the Chinese government is trying to claim territorial waters, and their aggression toward all their neighbors is exactly why the Philippines have decided to work with the US and open new bases.
  They may not claim it, but they are definitely the aggressor in the territory, and most of their neighbors do not view the Chinese government as 'the good guys'; that's not to say they view the US as 'the good guys' either, simply as the one that isn't actively aggressive and could assist in their defense.
  
  Which China has never ruled
  True, the CCP claiming The Philippines would be seen as ridiculous by the rest of the world.
  Then again, the CCP has never ruled Taiwan either...
- I wonder who's downvoting this
  
  Anyone with even a smidge of knowledge about the actual situation of the Taiwan issue.
  Contrary to what's usually depicted, neither Taiwan nor China consider Taiwan as an independent country. Taiwan, or more accurately the Republic of China (ROC), claims sovereignty over this territory.
  Both the ROC and the People's Republic of China (PRC) consider Taiwan to be a province of China, it just happens that the ROC only has control over Taiwan while the PRC has control over China

Taiwan seperatists keep losing!
There will be one China and Taiwan will be a respected part of that China.
- So, you think original china will take over the communist mainland again?
  
  The "original China" of Chiang Kai Shek is a subservient lapdog to the imperial core. It is a nation born out of cowardice and corruption.
  The PRC is the rightful government of China. Over 180 countries in the world recognize that fact. This isn't some fight against "communism" but a righting of history.
- Oh my God the tag worked to good so quickly, I'll update it to ultra right wing wanker instead of Russia Wanker
  
  Literally just had the same experience haha. Grateful to whoever mentioned tagging in the other thread
  
  What client are you using to tag people?
- TAIWAN NUMBA OOOOOOONE!
- Taiwan numbah 1!
- Taiwan #1

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