Benjamin Netanyahu Just Said “From the River to the Sea”, rejects the premise of a Palestinian state and promised that Israel will take over the entire region it currently occupies
This shithead's genocide is going to birth a new generation of vengeful extremists out of the ashes of Gaza for the rest of the world to deal with, in the future
By design. Fascists need an enemy to protect people from, in order to justify their cruelty. And they need a underclass to oppress, to demonstrate their power.
If they can make one out of the other - why, that's just efficiency.
The onion had ‘news from the future’ from several years ago and showed the last Israeli fighting the last Palestinian over a stray cat that wandered into the Gaza scrap
It's Western democracies that tamed Middle Eastern countries to make sure they're always on Israel's side, or at least effectively neutral. You can see it from Saudi Arabia's weapons and war in Yemen to Egypt's aid; the US spends a lot of money and political capital to buy the Middle East's cooperation in Israel's Apartheid/genocide project. And if that wasn't enough, they deployed strike carriers to make sure nobody intervenes militarily.
I'm thinking these days. The problem with democracy is that it can't be forced even if it were the correct thing to do in the pragmatic sense. If you force it, it's not democracy.
These are the quotes this article is based on according to another news outlet, and it is unsure if the translation (especially the wording for the proclaimed statement in the title) is up for debate since there are multiple translations.
(“from the river to the sea,” according to an English translation on the Israeli news channel i24NEWS.
According to other translations, Netanyahu said that Israel “must have security control over the entire territory west of the Jordan River,”)
"Every area that we evacuate we receive terrible terror against us. It happened in South Lebanon, in Gaza, and also in Judea and Samaria [the West Bank] which we did it.”
“And therefore I clarify that in any other arrangement, in the future, the state of Israel has to control the entire area from the river to the sea.”
"This truth I say to our American friends,” Netanyahu said Thursday. “And I also stopped the attempt to impose on us a reality that will jeopardize us. A prime minister in Israel has to be able to say no, even to the best of friends. To say no when you need to and to say yes when you can.”
Does anybody know what "proposal" the USA made that he's referencing?
It's all behind-closed-door conversations, but one can only assume some form of self-governance in Gaza given the US continues to push for a two-state solution despite supporting the Israelis as they, you know, wipe out one of those states.
What Bibi is saying, here, is that even that small modicum of Palestinian agency will be eliminated and Gaza will formally become the open air prison it's unofficially been for decades.
It depends on how it's said. Is it said as part of an effort to build a multicultural / religious state or part of an effort to rid the region of other ethnicities?
Just a reminder that before Palestinians lived there Jewish people lived there. I don’t really support either side. I just like saying uncomfortable facts out loud because I’m on the internet. Downvote away
3 thousand years ago? Before there was Jewish or Palestinian people there, the was no one. Hence I believe the area should be completely emptied. Just like to say uncomfortable facts out loud.
Ahhh there it is. The PM of Israel just said he plans to violate the treaties and annex Gaza and the West Bank. By ejecting these people from their homeland or just wholesale killing them, that's fucking genocide. It really never was about Hamas. And Hamas still exists.
My opinioj as a stranger on the internet (so like your new best friend)/:
A direct hand as in organizing it? No.
Indirectly as in financing Hama's? Sure.
A hand as in knowing it was about to happen and let it happen? Maybe, probably.
That's what I'm saying, I hate him because regardless of what his religion or ethnicity is, he himself is just evil. He's out for wealth and power and fuck whoever gets in his way.
“For 30 years, I am very consistent and I am saying something very simple: this conflict is not on the lack of a state of Palestinians, but the existence of a state, the Jewish state,” Netanyahu said, according to a translation on i24NEWS. “Every area that we evacuate we receive terrible terror against us. It happened in South Lebanon, in Gaza, and also in Judea and Samaria [the West Bank] which we did it.”
It turns out, when you terrorize people and steal their land for decades they are still angry at you when you('re forced to) let them borrow some of their land back while continuing to terrorize them.
No, waging a war of conquest is a fundamental right of any sovereign state. That doesn’t bear directly on a question as to the prosecution of a genocide.
All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations.
So he's finally admitted it.
I'm guessing there will be silence from the people that said Israel was definitely going to give Gaza back to Palestine after Hamas was gone.
I thought they'd wait longer before doing this. Don't they want to tease the West a bit longer? See if they can get more weapons and stuff? Or are they calling their bluff, knowing they'll give them stuff no matter what they say at this point?
Of course he says this, all of his actions for the last thirty years have telegraphed this intent. War is how he stays in power, and he takes it personally.
The article admits in the first paragraph that it's a possible mistranslation. If you've been following the rhetoric then you know this is not a new stance, it is a reiteration of the existing question of what body will administer Gaza after the war. Biden has said that the PA should be "revitalized" and assume control of Gaza. Netanyahu has said that the PA lacks the capability, credibility, and capacity to do so. As far as credibility, it's hard to imagine that Israel is the better option. The idea that Netanyahu is better than the admittedly unpopular Abbas is risible.
Egypt has flat out refused to take on the job, the Arab league has floundered.
It seems like the best solution would be a UN transitional force that would rebuild Gaza with financial support from Qatar and UAE, who have expressedwillingness. They would be responsible for maintaining order following the power vacuum of removing Hamas, PIJ, etc. They would have to bolster the PA, establish a police force, systems of governance, and roll out the transition for a peaceful transition of power to the PA (or a newly created body).
That's no small task. The last thing anyone wants is another Afghanistan. The USA spent decades and billions of dollars to remove the Taliban and establish a democratic system. They finally admitted that it hadn't worked and handed everything back over to the Taliban.
That's not the significant part of the mistranslation, however. This article says that "Israel will take over the entire region" but the more accurate translation is "Israel must have security in the region."
This article is using the most shocking possible translation just to get clicks.
That's seems like an awful lot for a tiny little spit of land that basically affects fewer people than any medium sized American city. I think Israel has the superior claim, arguably a duty.
On the other hand, imagine the efforts that the world would go to to free a medium sized American city that was taken captured by terrorists and rebuild it afterword.
Israel may be the best equipped to maintain order, and they have an existential prerogative to do so. However, what does the eventual transfer of power look like in that scenario? The PA and the UN are maybe the only bodies with the credibility to manage and rebuild the area and form a stable and representative government.