Big Galaxy S24 leak reveals Samsung's strategy against Google's Pixel phone
Big Galaxy S24 leak reveals Samsung's strategy against Google's Pixel phone
Samsung might copy Google's trick: seven years of updates for the Galaxy S24.
Quoting the tl;dr in the linked article:
Samsung could be stepping up its game by offering seven years of major Android updates for the Galaxy S24 series, and the generous update policy might extend to other Galaxy flagships.
The Galaxy S24 series might also introduce charges for AI features like Live Translate and Pixel-like photo editing tools after 2025.
There's speculation that users may need to sign in to their Samsung accounts for certain AI functionalities.
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That is not the only big thing of pixels. To me it's the openness. These are, ironically, the best and easiest phones to leave google. Or at least root them without the evergrowing hassles of each iteration of samcraps.
Noone would ever buy a PC if they wouldn't get admin-access and mustn't install Linux or whatever. With phones they managed to keep us out.
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i always found it funny that the best method of having a privacy focused phone (without having significant tradeoffs like the pinephone) is to buy the phone from the company who violates privacy the worst, and flashing over it.
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Noone would ever buy a PC if they wouldn't get admin-access and mustn't install Linux or whatever. With phones they managed to keep us out.
Realistically this only forms a tiny part of the population though, that's pretty much the only reason why they've been able to keep people out.
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If only a tiny part of people care at all, why even make it sooooo complicated and change every damn update? Let people that WANT control, have control. The others don't care anyway and are scared enough by a "are you REALLY REALLY REALLY sure you know what you're doing here?"-security-question.
I don't pay 1000,- for a phone that isn't mine, and I hate that this has become the default.
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exactly. the golden age was like 2015ish. great roms, easy to root, headphone jack, flat screens.
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Samsung could easily win me over if their bootloader was unlock able.
Edit: Apparently it's just US variants that can't be unlocked-
Well, bootloader unlock toggle in developer options and fastboot eom unlock are available, am I missing something?
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@Gallardo994 @Osiris you can’t if you have Samsung with Snapdragon
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wdym, you just go to dev options and allow it, then reboot and do fastboot unlock.
press power button a couple of times (THIS WILL TRIP KNOX E-FUSE PERMANENTLY WITHOUT ANY WAY TO RECOVER), wait for data to be erased and boom it's unlocked -
It is tho?
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This
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To talk about the article instead of ranting on about niche wants:
- 7 years of updates would be really good. Given how mature the hardware is nowadays, I can see a phone doing 7 years, save for the battery. Will Samsung be able to keep batteries in production?
- I'm less sold on the AI things, I guess that's the buzzword now. AI AI AI everywhere. Also the two features mentioned are already in Google products, and I'd rather use those if I have to, unless Samsung pulls out a surprise and show that they are better at software development than Google is.
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Things I want in a phone:
- Decent camera
- Aux Port - because I want the option
- at least one mappable button
- Expandable SD card slot
- Debloated OS
- good speaker phone
- water resistant and drop resistant
My favorite phone in the last 10 years was the Samsung S8 Active, before that, the HTC One (front facing speakers). Before that, probably the Samsung FlipShot and LG Chocolate.
I miss innovation in phone designs. They're all the same phone now.
Anyone have any recommendations for the US? I was thinking a fairphone but I think that's UK only.
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After a couple of Redmi Note phones, I'm currently looking at Motorola. I need to see how ROM development is on their phones.
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Motorola has been making a lot of midrange devices lately with Mediatek chipsets and I owned one for 2 years. My particular device (edge 20 fuaion) sold pretty well but there was no ROM development at all.
So pick one with a Qualcomm chip and you will probably have a good time. I Think the recent Moto Edge 40 pro got some Custom rom development lately.
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Asus zenfone?
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Is it repairability? Do I get root access to my own personal property? Maybe a headphone jack? How about IR blaster so my missing Roku remote doesn't matter? Can we go so far as a replaceable battery?
Ok I got you. You don't need to add anything you previously took away. Just give me a public apology for trying to make the phone repair industry die as collateral damage in your vendetta against Apple's other screen supplier.
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unless that comes with either a 600-700$ decrease in price or the readdition of a microSD card slot I'm not interested.
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After phone storage got beyond 32GB, I thought I won't need a microSD slot anymore. I was wrong and my 128GB are full again. Downloading shows and music in high quality needs quite a bit of storage, not to mention videos. As if to make matters worse, the OS takes up more storage than my first two phones had at all.
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Miss me with that AI bullshit, just make the screen completely flat on S24U and I'll be more than happy.
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Wish granted, it is completely flat
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Full disclosure: I didn't read the article and only read the bulletin points. However, that last point really convinced me leave Scamsung. When I got my current S21 Ultra, I was bummed to find out that I couldn't root it. I'm about to buy a Pixel 7 Pro and never look back.
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I can root my s23 ultra (from what I've read at least), however I choose not to because it would permanently break Knox and there would be no way of undoing that outside of replacing the logic board.
With that said, my next phone will probably be a Fairphone.
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Will they be bringing SD support back? I don't get how people can use phones without SD support...
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Which is funny because I don't get why people want it. Unless you're shooting a whole bunch of 4K video, i have no idea why it's needed.
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Here are a few examples of why someone would want it:
Not everyone lives in areas with great wireless connections.
Some are also limited to how much data they can use. So most store their music/movies/pictures on the local SD drive because they don't use cloud storage.
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I have a large music collection and store them on various SD cards in addition to my usually hard drives. When I want to listen to music I pop it in my Sony phone and listen to them. I refuse to use music streaming apps. I've tried SoundCloud, Spotify, and Google Music and each one didn't have niche songs I enjoy. I Also there are various songs across various streaming services that I listen to but none all on the same service. I would rather own the files myself and put together my own comprehensive playlists. So I just pop it into my phone, enjoy the music I like, at no cost to me and I don't have to worry about my Internet service in various places that I work out of that are deep in a building and don't get any reception. I have lots of movie files and pornography that take up terrabytes. I need these on a Micro SD card because my phone's internal storage isn't large enough. I have another SD card with all my gba roms and saves that I can pop into my phone and play GBA games if I'm waiting around at the DMV, public spaces. Theen when I'm home I can pop that same SD card out with all my saves and roms and put it in my ez flash and play on my actual modded Game Boy Advance or into my modded a GameCube and play them without having to copy and paste save files, etc.
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As a photographer i love it
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I'll be leaving the Samsung ecosystem after 10 years. They simply don't offer a phone for me anymore. I WANT an SD card, and waterproofing. And the A line camera is too shite.
I'll probably get some Chinese phone next and give them a shot. Samsung can get fucked with the 1000$ phones that continuously remove features.
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Which Chinese phone does that? They were the first to copy Apple when they removed all that. The only ones that still have card slots and headphone jacks are all the low-end phones, and heck, even those are going away. Xiaomi has been removing the card slots on the higher-end Redmi Notes.
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I think Sony and Asus still have phones with that stuff and a headphone jack
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Why not try a Pixel then? I'm on the S22 Ultra and already thinking of giving pixel a go on my next upgrade. They touted 4 years of support for this model but if they increase to 7 then I'll just need to wait and see what's out there at that time.
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They want an SD card
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@Maximilious @AlmightySnoo @madcaesar pixel all the way!
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7 years of updates is the tour of competition I like to see
Nickle and diming “AI” features isn’t.
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I'm pretty happy about that, I don't want AI features and not paying for them seems to guarantee they won't be involved with the phone.
I hate all the AI upscaling they do, those moon shots suck.
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So, when is the camera tech finally going to be good enough to make the camera flush with the phone body?
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I hope someone releases a build of LineageOS or any AOSP based custom ROM for the s23 series.
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This takes time, there is only just now a lineage OS release for my S20 FE.
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I mean, just have 65W+ charging. It's the single biggest feature that neither offers.
It's as if the whole world is split between those who could not live without it and those who haven't yet experience it.
I was at an airport recently where my flight was delayed a few hours. There were so many anxious people waiting to use plug sockets, the fear of a dead battery making the atmosphere tense everywhere, you could almost smell it.
I waited for the queues to form when the flight was called to board and eventually a plug socket near my seat in the bar became free. 20% to 80% in 15 minutes, onto the plane and sorted.
Google, Samsung & Apple are useless for me until they have that.
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Wouldn't a power bank solve that issue? So far the airports I've been to usually have the power sockets completely hogged so I don't even count on the chance that one is free. I usually bring along a power bank that gets me through 2-3 full charges of my phone.
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Or. https://www.ossia.com/cota
This is the future.
You don't need 100% battery. You need a battery that doesn't go flat.
Fast charging just buggers the battery. Too much heat isn't great
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With a wireless product like that you're probably not even going to get enough power to charge your phone. Maybe sustain it.
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Tizen or whatever they call it now is garbage. That is why I have a pixel.
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You had a Samsung which runs Tizen? No wonder it sucks.
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As an iPhone feature, we get these AI features for free and the phones cost the same.
Although im not sure about the photo editing.
The biggest reason I do t use Android is the lack of long term security and software updates.
The second reason is bloatware.
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Take something like GrapheneOS if security is important for you:
- No bloatware
- 7 years of updates on the new pixel phones with it
- Much more secure than an iPhone
- An iPhone isn't really privacy respecting or similar even though Apple always claims it to be
- An iPhone locks you in. Heck you can't even let Nextcloud or Immich sync files in the background on iOS just because Apple says "no background sync only works good with our own services so you give us your money and use iCloud Photos and Drive".
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Atleast in Australia , the iphones cost double.
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lol this is hilarious 😂 it does not matter how long they say you get updates so good as Samsung is in 7 years you are getting 3/4 updates .... 😂 😂 😂 but most people eat with the eyes 👀 wow 7 years? I go to buy a Samsung 😂😂😂 do that and come back in 7 years to tell me about your experience good luck
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You get 1 major android update a year, with some security updates in between with Samsung.
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What I really care about are phones receiving security updates.
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