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12mo ago

You liar!

Edit It's 17:08 now and it still shows 3 minutes

Edit 2 It's 17:15 now and it has been on 0 minutes for 3 full minutes....

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Those aren't minutes, they're drying time units, which last as long as the dryer decides it wants them to last on any particular day.
- Who the fuck programs these things? Why even have this measurement if the units are not a fixed length? Just put a light on it that says “done” or “not done”
  
  I mean, I was just being sarcastic, but it seems like that.
  
  These dryers also have a timed function that will allow to to over dry your clothes as much as you’d like. The auto modes use sensors that can detect clothes that still haven’t dried completely as they tumble about. Pretty hard to make precise unless you’re attaching sensors to every article in the dryer.
  
  It’s an estimation, which I prefer over the vagueness of a done/not done light. I recognize that it’s not specific or reliable for any precision, but having a general idea of when it will be done is useful.
  
  Imagine getting so mad at a dryer timer. If you hate it so much don't look at it and wait until it's done
- Now I'm confused, how many drying time units are in a galactic standard week?
  
  I can understand the confusion, drying time units is actually a measure of distance not speed.
  
  Depends how wet the week is.
- A washer or dryer is never late. Nor it it early. It finishes precisely when it means to.
- That old toaster post, back from the dead!

One thing I pride myself on is the ability to see through my dryer's bullshit. I know that 30 minutes really means 45 you damn liar.
- Yeah I should have known, started the thing at 12:26 (actually know this because I called my wife to check if we had 3 hours and 38 minutes before we needed to go), its 17:18 and I just got the door open....
  
  If you haven't already, clean the dryer vent thoroughly, including the whole exhaust vent leading outside. This should be done at least once a year. Once the vent is clear it should speed up drying, if not it might be the dryer itself and the manual might have solutions.
  Here are some guides: https://www.familyhandyman.com/article/how-to-clean-a-dryer-vent/ https://home.howstuffworks.com/home-improvement/home-diy/projects/dryer-vent-cleaning.htm
  
  It took almost 5 hours to the dry the clothes?

"Two minutes, Turkish."
- It was two minutes five minutes ago!
- I can't understand the joke. :/
  
  What's happen' with them sausages, Charlie?
  
  I believe it's from the movie Snatch

I much prefer hang drying.
Less wear on the clothes
Basically no energy cost (technically not correct but it's really whatever)
Free humidifying during the dry winters
Fairly satisfying thing to do while listening to a podcast
The primary downside is that it's no fun to do it when it rains, neither indoors or outdoors, but as long as you time your laundry well enough, it's all good.
- Nothing like spring/summer outdoor fresh dried laundry
- It's -11°F where I am today, my family still lives in Jamaica and I envy their ability to hang their clothes so much.
  
  It should be possible to hang your clothes indoors still, I guess. Outdoors as well I've been told, when it's a bit below freezing, but I'll admit that I've never actually tried that.
- At home I hang most of the clothes, but we where at a short trip and we had some wet towels and swimgear, so de decided to just do one full laundry with most of our wet and dirty clothes. The first duration before I even started the cycle was that it should be done at about 16:10 it was actually done more than an hour later.
- Relying on the weather to dry your clothes is a scam. You're just going to get tricked. I have ADHD so it's a no go
  
  What does ADHD have to do with this? I'm not sure that I get it.

Then the lying removed sings a cheerful little tune after it fucked up my schedule.

How can this be an estimation, and how is it so wrong? Doesn't the program just have a hard-coded length? Or does the time vary based on clothing weight or something? This seems so utterly strange to me.
- Seems to be a washing machine. 1600RPM spin dry.
  The problem occurs because there are 2 conditions that need to be fulfilled.
  Its programmed to spin at set RPM for 6 mins.
  Before it can initiate a full speed spin it needs to ensure the drum is balanced. If its off balanced it will damage the spin motor and other parts of the machine in short order. (reference old machines that sound like an earthquake during spin cycles). It will keep attempting to adjust the clothes by start-stopping so clothes can fall in place. Only when the vibrations are down to acceptable levels will the machine initiate a full speed spin dry. Machine will stay stuck at set spin time until condition 2 is fulfilled.
  The way to fix this is to open up the machine, untangle balled up clothes and allow the spin dry to resume.
  
  I find you get much more accurate estimates when you don't overstuff the machine. You're supposed to keep it 60-70% full to allow for proper agitation. Lots of people top it off.
  
  Very good reply, just one thing to add, it's both a washer and dryer, we did a full wash dry cycle.
- I assume it weighs it at the start and knows it's dry when it weighs the same again.
  It doesn't know what the material is. Some dry quicker than others.
  
  That's actually a very smart way to do that. Couldn't have thought of that

Our dryer does this to us:
Put clothes in, start it - it estimates 35 units of time. Come back in 15 minutes to check, it says 15 units left. Come back in 15 minutes, it now says 21 units left.
I am, like all of us, unsure of the fundamental nature of time. But the dryer even more so. The units are not one standard length, and they don't move always in the same direction.
- Valve time; the phenomenon is often observed in software development, with some calling it the software development time.
  Jokes aside, reading this thread makes me appreciate the old junk for the washing machine I have around here much more - at least it's accurate with time!
  
  Software development time:

Time to clean your dryer venting.
- And camera lens.
  
  and the microphone.
  just in case they couldn't spy correctly anymore.
- I've never seen a heat pump dryer with an accurate countdown.
  
  Had me in the first half.. they're up there with drawer style microwaves.

My washing machine over-estimates at first, it drops nearly an hour after it gets going. However, it will underestimate later on.
Also, it does this thing where it beeps that it's starting, doesn't do anything, then unlocks the door for a few seconds, then locks it again and actually starts. That's been a life saver for catching that one sock that got left behind and didn't make it into the drum.
- Exactly. It is critical to learn what the machine means when not under time pressure.

OP looking down on the unwashed masses after complaining about his fancy washing machine:

Had the exact same experience the other day. Fuck these machines, fuck printers, fuck microwave ovens, fuck software updates and fuck time estimates in general.
- Shouldn't need to be an estimate. The washer and drier are on timers. Use that as the time indicator.
  
  Most dryers these days should be using a moisture sensor, not a timer.
  
  Most dryers give an estimate of time but use a sensor to judge if the clothes are indeed dry.

Must be a Welsh machine. I'll be there now, in a minute.
- The labelling is in Dutch, so it's either a Dutch or a Flemish machine.
  
  It was a joke, since the Welsh say "I'll do it now, straight away" for immediately, but "Now, in a minute" for I'll do it, but have no estimate of when it will get done.

My dryer has a couple different presets which all adjust the remaining time dynamically according to a predetermind dryness level. To get around this, I just use the "custom" setting and change the temperature and timer manually.

I see you bought a dryer that's in Hawaiian time
No worries, just go with the flow it'll work out
Fun fact though typically the last little bit of drying in the dryer is just cool down time, so just reach in there and grab those toasty boxers, you'll be fine

The developers just put their own logic into its estimation software.
- The Windows file copy team?

Kind of like estimations in software development.
- Lies. They're very reliable. You can rely on them to be wrong.
  
  Take whatever timeline you have and double it. Then add 6 more weeks of cram.
- estimations in software development are much less reliable IMO

I much prefer an estimating timer that reliably dries all the clothes rather than a reliable timer that estimates the clothes are dry.
- mine does neither
  unreliably estimates how long it will take for my clothes to be unreliably dry
  
  Two common issues, aside from bad design, are clogged dryer vents and temperature sensors covered in fabric softener
- Our washer does this too though
  
  It might weigh it before washing, then keep doing the spin cycle until the weight gets close enough to the starting weight

That's a fancy dryer.
Mines purely mechanical. Old school timer runs the dryer
- This one might save power because it will only dry as long as it needs to.
  
  Opening the door and checking will also make sure it only dries as long as it needs to.

We call it “the longest minute” in my house.

Im still waiting for the last edit OP, dont leave us hanging
- I think it was 17:18 when the door lock finally opened. The very first time estimate said it should be ready at 16:10. So it was definitely a big lie.

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It's not always the fault of the device. It estimate the time based on the download speed in this moment, but it can't know that in the next moment your ISP server slows down or that your AV stops the download for some times to analyze a suspicios file, things like this to make your day enjoyable. Because of this, never automatic updates. I recieve an notification if there is an update in the queue and so I can update when I like in a spare time.
- Uh, this is a photo of a clothes dryer.
  
  And who needs an Dryer, Washingmashine, Fridge or other home appliance with Internet connection to spy you? Then complaining on Lemmy about the lack of privacy on the internet and the control of large corporations over the user.
  
  I still wouldn't be surprused if it worked that way
  
  The photo shows a washing machine though (I can read the Dutch labeling of the dials/buttons).
- That's a washer, or maybe a dryer I can't tell. I hope it's not downloading anything
  
  Washer. It describes available washing programs in Dutch.

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