Juste received this love letter from reddit's admins

Dear Spez,

I've learned that Reddit wants to profit from my content. I've therefore decided to monetize my content going forward. I have very reasonable rates of $50 USD per post. $75 USD for long posts.

I'm willing to discuss this with Reddit but these rates are nonnegotiable.

This

Does that also mean your first word on Lemmy is "fuck"?

Actually, as a mod, that's the strongest action you could take... stop moderating for free for reddit. "Jun 12, 2023 When they're all functioning normally, Reddit boasts nearly 140,000 active subreddits at any given time" according to https://wegotthiscovered.com/social-media/how-many-subreddits-are-on-reddit/ Now imagine 1 in 10 subreddits were abandoned by their mods. That's 14,000 subreddits without moderation. Let Spez take over the role of the Landed Gentry for 14,000 subreddits. If he thinks he's not making money now, how much will he have to pay to take care of all those subreddits?

It's not tone deaf so much as it's gaslighting. Their intention isn't to get compliance or work through any of the valid concerns - their intention seems to be to cover themselves and give plausible deniability for potential investors.

They're sending this to mods as if they are the audience, which we know is not the case since anything the mods say is not actually considered.

Except that's not always what's happening. A couple subs I'm in have voted to reopen, when they've had the ability to vote at all (since it's hard to vote when the subreddit is locked).

One voted to reopen and the mods removed the poll and are pretending it went their way despite some people having screenshots of the poll.

It's not even true though. Subreddits belong to the user who creates it, they become the top mod and delegate to other mods. If users don't like how a subreddit is moderated, they are free to make their own subreddit - they aren't supposed to take over someone else's subreddit.

Because I'm sure all those people aren't volonteering for spez but rather the subs users, the ones that keep their communities alive because of their shared interests.

"Narcissist" is a psychological term describing a person with NPD, a disability in ego regulation. There is no evidence that Spez is disabled, neurodivergent, or otherwise mentally disordered. Even if he did suffer from ego disability, there are plenty of good reasons to hate him, and hating someone for being disabled is a bad reason. Comments like this one contribute to the stigma faced by mentally disordered people.

It seems like that's common at the moment, the amount of trash being let slide on Reddit is unreal. I'm not surprised at all.

Reddit doesn't make enough revenue. Even if all posts were ads, it won't be enough to pay minimum wage for all the staff necessary to mod just the protesting communities.

What's there to take? Like, these guys are working for free running on their enthusiasm and passion. You make them question whether the community is really worth their time, even if they relent for now, how does that do reddit any good? It isn't like reddit has any actual power over the mods on their ultimate decision of quiting.

I mean, one of the subreddits just gave all subscribers to it mod status. I think it was political humor. Something like 1 million people are now mods for that subreddit.

One of the other admins said they hadn't talked about that in an interview shortly after spez said that.

So once again he's talking out both sides of his mouth.

If you set a few AutoModerator rules, you can make everyone a moderator.

Pure chaos. It's brilliant.

You have the right to decide which hand your mind control chip gets installed on.

The trouble is they didn't like what actual free speech had to say which was we just want to use apps that work, so now he's having a temper tantrum.

Ditto. I wasn't happy but I thought they'd find some sort of compromise since being reddit, the replacement for Digg 2.0, they'd surely understand they can't just be complete twats about it. Then they started denigrating/banning their own mods.... Wtf?

There are still a few niche subs I'll have to keep using reddit for for now, but for everything else I'm happy to move on. I'll also be cancelling my reddit monthly subscription, obviously.

Yeah, I ended up canceling my premium and I'm now using it to donate to lemmy / mastodon instances I'm migrating too. They (spez) has destroyed any (trust) chances of me going back too.

https://shreddit.com/

As a fellow creative, I think that would be a good idea. I'm personally leaving my account live for basic reasons, but I'm going through and deleting posts containing anything I've created.

This is why I left reddit, they say they care for the community. Only to use their actions to remove good moderators (maybe 1 or 2 bad ones in the process of this fire bombing of bans) and the nail in the coffin being u/spez doing more dumb decisions. Like doubling down on the API. . . Despite the protests and his app going downhill.

It's corporate rhetoric.

They define the reality they want their audience (press, investors) to see: No protests, no demands, no conflict with Reddit, just moderators not taking their job seriously while Reddit is taking its communities seriously and reaching out in good faith and with empathy.

Then they go all method actor and assume this reality, and start writing.

All the mods should either reopen everything and stop all mod activities (ie quiet quit), or just go down the John Oliver route.

Money.

some pun with huffman or smth idk am not funny

The message is addressed to mods, but its actual audience is potential investors.

Remember the old saying: if a company is giving you something for free, you're not the customer, you're the product.

Subreddits are Reddit's product. Reddit makes money by selling subreddits to advertisers. If moderators damage that product, Reddit takes action. End of story.

These are the rules. You can rely and trust on these being upheld for as long as it serves us.

Me too :’) history in the making!

There's no way he's doing that much work. Even if that was the only message he sent that day, there's no way he's doing that much work.

They are gonna make you an offer you cannot refuse

I believe this will only hurt you more than it hurts them. You're locking yourself out of a lot of useful posts and guides.

Just don't engage with the site. Remain a guest user. If you really wanna, use Tor to remain anonymous.

the really funny part is that the users were polled and overwhelmingly wanted the protest, so forcibly opening it is the thing that's actually going against the wishes of the community

all my homies hate mod coc

No, this is passive aggressive for "if you don't want to do your unpaid job then get out".

Because that's the reason you're supposed to be closing a large public subreddit. They don't think of it as a tool for protest.

O no 😱

Anyway...

Replaced with who or what?

What's crazy is since last year the admins have been asking mods to step up their free labor or lose their subreddits. Now they want to micromanage mod decisions too? Coupled with the admins trying to turn communities against their mods, there's a serious loss of trust at this point, and I don't think the admins are going to get it back.

And then he ran into my knife.

He ran into my knife ten times.

He had it coming…

With the biggest most oblong bad dragon the world has ever seen

Mod of /r/homeimprovement here, that's exactly what we are doing. We are staying dark and forcing them to replace us if that's what they want to do at this point. We are at least going to make them work for it, lol.

Roses when plucked, they leave a grass hole. Fuck Spez, he’s such an asshole