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CAMPBELL: Residents of B.C.’s capital fed up with big pickups downtown

www.nelsonstar.com CAMPBELL: Residents of B.C.’s capital fed up with big pickups downtown

Some members of the social media world want to see a ban, what do you think?

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Fuck trucks. I remember the Ranger it was barely bigger than a minivan. These things are obscene. People who own them don't need them. Most people don't even need trucks. People like to cosplay that they live up a 25 degree incline of muddy, rocky road. But a subaru would be just fine and IS in most of the world.
- I drive a B2300 (the Mazda rebrand of the Ranger) and it kicks ass. I get 7-8L per 100km, when commuting, I've filled it to the tits with dirt, flooring and lumber, and it doesn't take up 2 parking spaces. I would pay an obscene amount to get the same truck but as an EV today. Why the fuck is that not a thing?!?
  
  Best we can do is a behemoth truck that doesn't fit in spots and costs a first born child.
  
  This is actually a good point, why are there no small EV trucks?
  
  I bet they exist in China.
  
  Ever heard of a Ford Maverick? It's not a "real" truck since it's unibody instead of body-on-frame, but otherwise it's the next best thing to the old Ranger.
  
  The b23 was a great truck, though.
  
  I recently bought a 2010 B4000 and it is a great size for a truck.
- I remember the Ranger it was barely bigger than a minivan.
  
  I own a Ranger and used to own a Ford Aerostar. I'm pretty sure they were literally built on the same platform. Also, my Ranger is a regular cab short bed, while my Aerostar was the long wheelbase version, so the van was definitely bigger.
  
  My dad used to have an Aerostar, loved that goofy looking little minivan. Ended up getting a Plymouth Voyager that looked very similar.
- I do appreciate Ford has the Maverick now as well.
- I would love an old Ranger with the extended cab and suicide doors....I hate the new ones are f150 sized. Also the Tacoma structurally is no larger than the original tiny version...it's all puffy body panels. Why can't we ha have small trucks?
  
  $$$
- I used to have a ~'99 ranger. Loved that thing. Now the closest thing Ford has is the maverick which is not only bigger overall but it has a smaller bed so it's less useful.
  
  '10 B2300 driver. Why will no one make a real compact pickup instead of a movie theater with a 4 foot box?!?
- I probably don’t represent most people very well. But my wife and I have a single vehicle, a gmc sierra 1500. We probably use the bed twice a week. Trash/recycling. Moving heavy things around our property. Makes for a great mobile workbench for projects outside. And most often of all, we buy hay and grain for horses. A smaller truck would be a problem for us. We would actually benefit from a larger truck! But I don’t want a bigger gas guzzler. We get great fuel efficiency given the size of the truck.
  
  Edit: I also don’t live in a city. It’s quite rural here
  
  That, seems like a proper use.
  
  I see many trucks with huge mud tires that they use as a main vehicle to commute to and from work and to run errands. I think these are the target for most people.
  
  Obviously not (yet?) available in the US but other countries have much smaller trucks with larger beds. https://www.kia.com/dm/showroom/K2700-2022/specification.html
  
  That plus a 2200 lb hauling capacity make them a very capable, efficient, and reasonably safe truck.
  
  Do you run a farm? Meaning is your truck use for your business or job?
  
  ? I'm sure you're aware GM used the exact same gasoline motors in the half tons as it did in the 3500s. You can have pretty much the same gas mileage as the half ton as long as you make sure to find a 2500 or 3500 with the 3:73 or 4:10 rear axle ratio, not the 4:88 that shows up fairly often, but way more carrying capacity. If it's throttle body era, the 3500s did have bigger injectors, just change them to the 1500 injectors.
- My first car was a '92 Ranger and it was a great little thing to have at that point in my life. It's really nice to be able to move without needing to worry about how to transport all your stuff to the new place and it was small enough that it still felt like a regular sized car.
  
  The new rangers are pretty ridiculous in comparison.
- Pretty arrogant to claim people that own them don't need them. I know welders that do on site welding and have heavy welding equipment mounted in the back.
  
  You also wouldn't want to have a civic flying down a steep hill behind you towing a 6,000lb travel trailer.
  
  Edit:
  
  Today I learned a bunch of people like to drive slow behind a rolling death trap that is a civic with a 6K lb trailer. Cool.
  
  So weird that contractors in every single other country on earth don't need them
  
  How strange!
  
  I think we're not talking company trucks (which should park in a depot anyway).
  
  It's about personal garage-queen road-manatees. Because of course it is.
  
  Just abolish and amnesty the Dodge ram. Given the inordinate DUI numbers, roads would just be safer.
  
  9 out of 10 non-company pickups on the road are hauling huge dicks with tiny penises.
Interesting it's just trucks that are the problem, and not SUVs as well. Just as large, hell some weigh more.
- The spa-burban is a truck.
  
  Is it a 6000lb monster on a truck frame and enjoying the worse/looser safety regs? Then Truck.
  
  I'm clearly not just talking about Burbs. https://www.autoweek.com/news/a1720016/ranked-every-unibody-non-luxury-three-row-crossover/
- Most are on a literal "truck" frame. Silverado/suburban for example.
  
  That ignores big unibody SUVs. Most that I'm speaking to are not on truck frames. For example https://www.autoweek.com/news/a1720016/ranked-every-unibody-non-luxury-three-row-crossover/
- They are part of the problem too.
  
  They're also literally a truck with a roof over the bed.
- In the US, SUVs are considered "Light trucks" and the same regulations apply to them.
What is the point of a truck you cannot fit a 2x4 in the back?
- Satiates societally ingrained Petro-Masculinity for patriarchal men who are insecure about their status as a man in the modern age.
  
  Petro-masculinity is a brilliant term.
  
  Could have easily said "little dick syndrome"
- Ya it is ridiculously hard to find a used truck with even a 6.5ft bed, people simply don't order them. Single cab long bed 4x4 is cream of the crop but they barely even exist
As a truck owner, I also do not need a big truck. I loved my B4000, However there are no small options now, and I can't afford multiple vehicles. You want solid furniture delivered 150km on a bike? Make the space, but charge for access.
- If I were to pay someone to move furniture. I'd get someone with a van.
  
  If I were move furniture myself, I'd rent a van.
  
  The reason smaller long bed trucks don't get bought is because you might as well get a van. A roof is generally a good thing.
  
  Modern trucks are nothing more than a bodge to get around safety regulations for ordinary cars.
People in Victoria want to ban everything. We also want to ban ebikes, off leash dogs, smoking, single use items, leaf blowers, sheltering in parks, outdoor fires, and all poor people. I see a headline like this every week here it feels like

Also bunch of body shaming cunts in here, stay classy lemmy
- Get some better examples if you want sympathy.
  
  Off leash dogs are dumb, smoking is dumb and kills people, single use items are a huge waste of resources and source of pollution, leaf blowers are loud as fuck pollute like mad and generally pointless, and for a province that spends the majority of its time on fire outdoor fires tend to be a bad idea.
  
  Fuck trucks
  
  Not looking for sympathy just saying that people who live here will never stop complaining
  
  A lot of people don't need truck but how in the world is a full ban going to work when majority of contractors use light duty trucks lol. Have you ever been to Victoria? There are so many contractors and so many pickup trucks
  
  Increase the price of trucks maybe? Contractors will just push the cost down to customers and housing will be even more expensive then
  
  And what about the people who live north island and drive their truck into Victoria for groceries/hospital/whatever? Fuck em?
  
  The issue is actually that public transit sucks and there are plainly too many vehicles on the road, not specifically trucks are the problem ha. The people complaining in this article are people who never leave Victoria, I know the type very well
These trucks are no longer than a 1978 Cadillac, wtf designed these parking spaces?
- Lmao that is a wild point of reference, buddy.
  
  It's a way to demonstrate longer vehicles are nothing new, and still being driven besides. This is an urban planning failure being presented as otherwise.
- Someone in the past thirty years?
  
  I mean that sounds clever if you don't think about when the vehicles being removeded about were designed.
- Thanks Sagifurious, this person knows his trucks. But provides little to the conversation with their straw man fallacies, and troll like rebuttals.
  
  A great example of a blockable account.
  
  Look at this users profile, review their post contribution. Click the three dots to open the actions, and select block this user.
  
  Blocking doesn't happen instantly because of cached data in your browser, but it is very effective.
  
  And that's how we keep this space enjoyable to use.
  
  Classic case of responding not to what is said, but who is saying it. In short....fuck off moron.

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