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Anyone else feel like ~99% of their life was kind of wasted?

In the last year or so I started to see so many people of my age that have done truly incredible things and still doing more.
For the vast majority of my life my only goals were gettimg academic satisfaction and doing unproductive stuff in the free time to get temporary pleasure. No end goal whatsoever.
I kind of don't know what I've been doing in the last 17 years while someone gets a patent on solar systems, other invents a new recyclable plastic, and another found a successful startup. I mean, they all find what they're supposed to be doing with their lives and excel in them.
I feel overwhelmed for trying to pace up with these kind of people. Yet I don't like the way the things are and I can't do anything but envy those people.
Anyone with experience in this regard? How did you deal with this? Did you eventually "pace up" with these people or was it too late or an unattainable goal?
Edit: Whoops, I didn't expect so many replies! Thanks, I'll look into them all

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  • I’ve improved my life quite a lot but it’s hard to give advice to others.

    The comparison mindset is really bad though. It literally doesn’t matter what another monkey on this planet does. Your thoughts about how to improve your life are ones you have to discuss with yourself (maybe guided by a therapist). There is no wrong way to live but you have to make the choice on how you want to.

    • I know this might be dangerous to think about but I don't feel good about what I have done myself without any guidance in the past. Like, not at all. I want to take advantage of many opportunities around me and be the best of myself. I've been taking some steps especially since last year but I think I'm still missing the main idea.
      I could say I haven't really defined a "purpose" in my life, but I can see these kind of people are definitely somewhere close to what I might want to head towards.

      • Being the best "yourself" you can be is definitely a good goal to have.

        However, it doesn't really sound like you're trying to be the best "yourself". You're looking around you and see these other people doing stuff. Would you ever have arrived at these conclusions yourself if you had never seen these "successful" people around you?

        You're seeing what is theoretically possible if your life was set up in another way i.e. you were a different person. But you're not. All these people you're seeing around you had very specific upbringing, opportunities, genetics etc etc all of which you're not privy to.

        Everyone theoretically wants to have had a successful company. Or wants to have had a groundbreaking discovery. Or whatever. But very very few people actually do these things, even if they try hard, mostly those things happen because circumstances in some way set themselves up for these people.

        Of course you have to work towards these kind of things to have any chance at them. But that's the thing, those people actually wanted to do those things more than pretty much anything else very early in life. That wasn't because they are just better people, no, it was just because probably their parents or something else instilled some sense of need for specific achievement within them. You didn't get that, so you didn't do these things.

        We're entering very philosophical territory. Let me give you some more food for thought.

        As perspective, 99% of people never do anything like the stuff you mentioned in their life. And many of these people live a very content and happy life. Are 99% of people wasting their life? Only the ones that aren't content?

        What is the end result of, for example, having an amazing startup? How will your life look like, if you do or do not have that, in 10 years? 50 years? 100 years? 1000 years? 10 million years?

        Is it of utmost importance that you have had (something like) a successful startup before you die? What if you're one of those 99% that chase it but never reach it? What if you had not "wasted" your life like you say, but still failed at achieving your goal? It's very normal for that to happen.

        For me personally, I know that I'm not great at anything much. I have achieved nothing noteworthy. I have no real goals I need to achieve. My only real goal is to be as morally good a person as I can be. I have not a lot of money. I have no family.
        Yet I am perfectly happy. I think that it's absolutely irrelevant what exactly I do with my life. I do whatever I want to do whenever I want to do it, and if I don't, that's fine as well. Life does not have a goal state.

      • Just remember that you don’t see the negative parts of these people’s lives. Not taking anything away from their accomplishments, and it’s great to aim high. Anything that can inspire you to take action to improve your life is a good thing. However, I promise they still have things they regret, time they feel was wasted, and moments of feeling unsatisfied.

      • You're not alone in that regard. No one guided me either. But I self taught myself the skill I wanted to persue. And after 7 seven years in, I just gave up. Honestly I've no regrets. My school mates are doing way better than I ever could. I've no shame where I took my life, because it was my own decision.

        I don't think you have to bound yourself to a purpose in life. Better invest your time and energy in something you enjoy. Build some skills.

      • I think it's completely healthy to want to better yourself and look at the examples of people around you, but remember that you've placed yourself in this group and as you grow you'll place yourself in new groups with a new set of coworkers/friends/colleagues and some of them will outpace you. I found I was continuously stacking myself against the people around me in my career, and as I grew I would stack myself against a new set of people on the next "level", which made me lose sight of my own overall growth. It definitely drove me forward and overall it seems to have worked out, but as you grow just make sure to take some time to reflect on your accomplishments.

  • When you look at someone else’s life, you only see the Highlights Reel. You don’t hear about all the boring in between moments, their struggles with imposter syndrome and insecurities, their relational arguments or troubles with their family, all the BS.

    Life isn’t about keeping up.

    It’s a parlor trick, magically coming into existence for a fraction of a moment in this infiniteness of time and space. The best thing we can do is cherish the miracle and squeeze the most happiness for the time we have. It’s respecting life.

    For some, that means service to others. For others, it’s patenting science projects. And then there’s those that find it in an honest job, being good to people they love, and exploring hobbies from time to time.

    Happiness is definitely not a contest. Especially one that you put yourself through fully knowing you won’t win.

    But if you feel like you need more value in your life, it’s never too late to do something new.

    • I love your comment about happiness not being a contest. I have always bought in to the idea that happiness is a choice, you decide what's important to you and if you're getting those things then be happy! Don't worry about everyone else comparing themselves to each other endlessly, that is the road to madness 🙂

  • This idea that we have to be "productive" with our time is perhaps the biggest source of human suffering, not just for ones who feel guilty for not being productive, but also the overly ambitious psychos who force their "greatness" on everyone else (just think of tyrants who want to rule over others to make a name for themselves).

    • I 100% agree and just wanted to build off this comment if that's alright.

      Another side of this is hedonism vs fulfillment. There's nothing wrong with enjoying hedonism, so long as one isn't harming themselves or others in the process. But living purely to satiate one's hedonism tends to lead to a sense of hollowness or unfulfillment.

      In addition to letting go of non-destructive hedonistic shame, it's important to take time to introspect and find what brings a person genuine fulfillment.

  • This is what happens when you grow up with boomers in your ear, yelling at you to get a job and make a family. They insist that's what life is about. But it's not. Life is about being happy. When it boils down to it, that's all we really want. Even terrible people do what they do because it makes them happy.

    I'm only just taking my baby steps out of this mindset. I learned I can do things no one else around me can. Some may not be marketable skills, but that's not always necessary.

    I don't work. Thanks to autistic burnout, I'm a shell of my former self. But in that time, I have saved 11 kitten lives and given 3 very short lives happiness they never would have seen otherwise. I've brought kittens from the brink of death by starvation to stocky, healthy kittens who now have loving homes. It takes time and effort to do that. One was so sick from starvation he barely moved, and I got him strong enough to get up and play.

    It's not worth any money to have this talent. Not to me anyway. They are all attached to a shelter that makes the money. They make me happy.

    It's not about "pacing up" as you say, or making a mark in history. We need those people, but you don't need to be one of them. If everyone made breakthroughs, they wouldn't be as important. The bar would just get set even higher. You make a difference to the people around you. I don't value my life, but I learned to appreciate that other people do value my life, and that's good enough.

  • Because life doesn't have a goal. There is no waste. That's a point of view that makes people suffer needlessly. The objectives of a cow in a meadow are to eat grass, sleep, defecate and socialize a little. Many living things have even fewer requirements. They might have survival and reproduction in common, but if they don't meet them, they haven't lost either. For some humans, this may be depressing, but it would be if their perspective* has led them to reason that.

    *Their perspective and their context, because we are social animals and we do not live isolated from other people's requests.

  • while someone gets a patent on solar systems,

    Rarely achieved by individuals, rarely achieved by someone intentionally aiming to achieve that particular goal. Most were just doing a job.

    other invents a new recyclable plastic,

    Rarely achieved by individuals, rarely achieved by someone intentionally aiming to achieve that particular goal. Most were just doing a job.

    and another found a successful startup.

    Less than 10% chance. The other 90+ are now worrying about their FAILED startup. Also.... Rarely achieved by indiv- yadda yadda

    Why are you this worried? The vast majority of humans are NOT special, and your framing for accomplishments is all weirdly skewed if you think those require a special human. This doesn't take a stoic or a realist to realize, it's just true. You're boring and so am I, because almost everyone, even whatever celebrity you can name me on the spot, is also fundamentally someone boring who likes doing boring things in their spare time. And boring people can achieve great things. The opposition to that notion exists only to glorify whatever chucklefuck narcissist-serving philosophy dumbasses at social gatherings believe in, and pink magazines' financial security.

    I've seen people be like this even with entertainment, and it's not healthy. People worried about matchmaking ratings, or pissed at themselves that they can't be as good as Fireb0rne when fighting Hollow Knight bosses, instead of just taking things at their pace, putting the effort they enjoy and accepting the results those bring.

    • Yes I have no claim that they're special people. I can see myself being close that or just be that if I actually changed some (I mean, a lot of) stuff in the past
      I'm worried because I end up like some of those people. And time is passing really fast. Even years don't feel as long now. I think college will start and end before I realize it

  • Not really. After having been through some deaths and illnesses of people close to me, every normal day is a good day to me. No news is good news, I can live my life quietly and how I want.

    As for success in life, if I take care of myself, try not to make things around me worse, and try to help others I'm pretty happy with that. In my work we make a few products from scratch so I feel like I contribute to society.

  • I guess to add to what a lot of people have said already but many people would argue that there is no inherent meaning to life as a whole and therefore you need to find your own. For some this may be wanting fame or glory, for others it's putting in a good day's work. There is no correct answer. You only get one shot at this life so ultimately do what makes you happy.

    If you spend your life comparing yourself to others it is going to make you miserable, especially if you compare yourself to the history books, only a percentage of a percentage of a percentage of people ever make it in them, what happened to all those people who were theorising about gravity when the apple fell on the head of mathematician in Woolsthorpe?

    The same goes for fame too, look at all the people who start making content with the only goal of "making it big." How far do they realistically get before they give up? Audiences also aren't silly, they can tell when someone is phoning it in, people want to see authentic stuff.

    For me then, well, I'd be a liar if I said that I have never chased something, because I'm chasing something right now, it's just that it's a personal goal and I know achieving it will bring me personal happiness. If it makes other people happy too that's a bonus, it's not going to change the world, it's not going to set the world on fire, but it's been fun.

    But I will not deny that in the past I too have had to deal with nihilism, and that was a very difficult period of my life. One that at the time I just couldn't talk to people about because how do you word that?

    Besides, you don't know how many people out there are looking at you right now and going, "damn, wish I was OP, having the maturity to question their place in the universe at only xx years old!"

    Edit: Grammar

  • I don't know if I'm answering, but few years ago I've figured out and started to test this hypothesis:

    Memory is context-driven, and such is our own ability to retrospect about spent time.

    For example, let's say I spent whole Saturday doing one of my favorite combos; playing Factorio and listening to podcasts. Next day I would go to a dinner with a friend who (as most people on the planet) is not really interested in neither of these things. There's no way I could justify day spent, to my friend it would look like time wasted. Thing is, it's actually easy to come to a similar conclusion just myself -- I would feel like from some "objective", "classic" point of view, the time spent in Factorio was wasted.

    However, one thing is easily missed: due to the contextual nature of our memory, the memory spent in one mindset (playing Factorio with podcast) is not readily available outside that mindset. (It has to be like this to some extent, right? we don't need to remember how to ride a bike when not close a bike!)

    It sometimes happens to me that when I open old map from Factorio, memories from "the Factorio mindset" would start coming (including topics from podcasts or audiobooks), as if I visited some old place. If my friend walked up to me while I'm playing Factorio and asked me about how I spent my time, I could probably share lots of stories about how I came up with this structure and how I found myself stranded among enemy bases, etc. It's he change of context that prevents me to do so at the Sunday dinner -- part of the new context is that I'm with someone who's not interested in Factorio or podcasts.

    The question is then, do all these experiences contribute in a positive way to something more long-term, like my personality? While playing/listening, am I training something that is going to be useful later on? It boils down to comparing what else could I have done, which is ultimately a futile enterprise anyway.

    TL;DR: Could it be that in retrospect time can feel wasted but it's just because we're trying to "reach" the time from another context? Maybe we always spend our time the best way we can, it's just that we're not equipped to judge the time properly, at least not from any context.

    • I just figured out a better example:

      You can spend Saturday walking through forest, or walking by the lake, or gardening at home. Let's say that objectively, all of the three activities are identical in terms of value added to your life.

      You choose the lake.

      Next day an alien/angel figure appears and asks you to judge and justify to him how well you spent the time, on a scale 1 to 10. Your judgment, feeling, and answer is going to vary based on where you exactly are when being asked:

      • If you happen to be by the same lake again, you will give 10. Your brain will be much better at producing the justification by reminding you what you have seen and thought about.
      • If you happen to be by the forest, then you will give 5. It will be harder to come with justification, your memories won't be accessed so readily. However you're still "on a walk", so there's some overlap
      • If you happen to be at home gardening, you will give 3. You are now in a completely different mindset and you have probably realized few more things to do in the garden.

      Of course, your judgment will vary based on other factors as well, such as your mood, or your relation to the figure.

      So my point is that no matter any objective measure (if such thing even exists), your judgments of the time spent will vary by many factors, and the difference in context will certainly contribute to the difference in judgment.

      • Your example kind of assumes every option is created equal. It definitely isn't.
        I get a much better analysis of what I have done in my past as time passes. I realize I missed so many objectively good paths. I wish I could see what I'm currently doing in retrospect from future. Like, my future self comes and give me advice

  • Comparison is the thief of joy. What others have done in their life says nothing about their level of happiness during those times. Accomplishments are just one sentence with so much that happens in between that you don’t know. I feel like society has really done people a disservice by convincing everyone that you have to do big things in order to have a great life and if you don’t do them all before you’re 30 then you’re old and wasted your life and that could not be further from the truth.

    You don’t have to pace up with anyone, your path is completely different from theirs and your thing that you do can start any time because it is NEVER too late. As long as you’re living you can start your next path any day you want, saying you can’t is like accepting that you won’t try anything new again until you die.

    Lastly, even if you don’t have some big accomplishment like you’re seeing others have that doesn’t make you “less than” anyone else. You can still lead a perfectly happy and wonderful life without having some really great big goal in mind. Your goal can be to be the best you that you can be to everyone you interact with and that would still be a valuable goal in life. Take a look at what you value in life and when you focus on those things and surround yourself with others with similar values then you’ll naturally find your next goals in life. You’re exactly where you need to be.

    • if you don’t do them all before you’re 30 then you’re old and wasted your life and that could not be further from the truth.

      I think they're actually right. I just look around, older people don't want to move an inch from their comfort zone. It's almost always what they do in their youth that defined who they are. If they are still doing good things in their life still, they were usually not sleeping around in their youth either. I think there is something about getting old that makes you less flexible in general, psychologically.

      I'm definitely not where I want to be. I look at my last year, last 2 years, last 4 years, last 6 years etc. and it's as if I never done anything right with exceptions (something something broken clock). And when I try to do something today, many times I struggle because I didn't start early, or I just straight up can't. I can give so many examples to this today. Me sleeping around only hurts me in the future.

      • Regardless of your age, you are a result of the daily choices you make. Coming from someone who is going on 30, I don’t feel like my life is defined by anything from when I was 17 and below. In fact, I don’t feel like I really started getting my shit together until well after college. And I’m honestly glad for that, I was a different person when I was 17 than I am today and I’ve grown a lot. 17 year old me would not recognize the person I’ve become today in a very very good way. You have so much ahead of you that’s really hard to see right now but it definitely gets better.

        You don’t have to be where you want to be right now, but you can make a conscious decision to make small daily choices to get you to where you want to be. You’re focusing so much on what you haven’t done and not enough on what you could do in the future. What’s already happened doesn’t really matter, what matters is what you do tomorrow.

      • As someone who just turned 30, every year brings growth and change to my life. I'm not the same person I was at 17, or 24, or even 28. Every day I strive to better myself, or do better. Am I more set in my ways than I was 15 years ago? Maybe. But I don't really think so. I choose everyday to try to level up myself in some way, some days I succeed. But often I fail. And that's okay. Failure is a part of life - and an integral one. Struggling and failing is how you learn. It's also a cliche, but I find it to be true that success is all the sweeter when it comes after a series of failures. All you can do is pick up and try again. Because when you let failure stop you, that's the only way to ensure you'll never succeed.

        You're young. You don't need to have accomplished anything at this point, you don't need to know what you want to accomplish later in life. Even if you never accomplish anything of note it won't make your life, or your happiness, less important or meaningful. Your goals don't have to be grand, as long as they matter to you.

        Also I noticed specifically you mentioned sleeping around here. I'm not sure why you think sleeping around would hurt you in the future, or why you are beating yourself up so much over that specifically. But you should stop shaming yourself for it. "Sleeping around" is a perfectly normal part of life, at any age. As long as you're doing it safely, and with care for your own mental health. It's nothing to be ashamed of. It won't prohibit you from settling down in the future if that's what you want.

  • As others have said, try not to compare yourself to others. You could take inspiration from others, and shape up your own path. You will always lag behind if you follow someone else's path. If you make your own path, then you might be able to walk side-by-side with others. An analogy would be in starting a new business where you wouldn't want to directly compete with established businesses, so you would add your own twist or handle a niche uee case instead.

    Also, there's different kinds of success which also depends on perspective.

  • Covid has made me realize that no matter how much free time I have, I'd rather do nothing at all than pick up something new.

    • Are you ok, dude/dudette?

      I really enjoy my downtime being genuine downtime but I can't imagine feeling like this.

      • Yeah I'm fine. I'm just saying that bc I remember I was spending so much time gaming or surfing the internet during covid when I could've been learning something new. I'm sure most ppl felt (or still feel) the same way.

  • Wasted? I've browsed more dank memes than all of my ancestors combined.

  • "But what do you really want to do with your life?" is a question that comes up a lot in our lives. I've spent a chunk of my life trying to find the answer before realizing that what I want to do or think I should be doing is inconsequential. The important question is how you want to feel. You could patent the whole universe and be the richest person on earth and still feel like a failure or an imposter. That's why rich and famous celebrities kill themselves -- despite achieving what everyone desires, the promised happiness remains elusive, if not even more distant.

    As time marches on, you'll find yourself remembering lesser and lesser of what you did with so and so, but you'll always remember how they make you feel.

    How you feel has to do with your attitude in life. You can feel happy and contented right here and right now, without changing anything externally. Live every moment as if it's your last, then you'll always know what's important in life.

  • It’s not just you, it’s all of us. But what people really regret when they are facing the end is perhaps different from your fears as expressed here.

    Five wishes of the dying:

    1. “I wish I'd had the courage to live a life true to myself, not the life others expected of me.”
    2. “I wish I hadn't worked so hard.”
    3. “I wish I'd had the courage to express my feelings.”
    4. “I wish I had stayed in touch with my friends.”
    5. “I wish I had let myself be happier”

    From The Top Five Regrets of the Dying: A Life Transformed by the Dearly Departing by Bronnie Ware

  • How old are you OP? Being "normal" isn't time wasting. You grew up, you went to school, will find a job, find love, maybe build your own family (or not). It's beautiful. You don't have to achieve greatness in life. Be yourself, be kind to others and that's actually enough. If you find something you're passionate about, and you can dedicate yourself for it and in time be good at it, it's good! If you have an unremarkable career, it's also good! The obsession with "success" is not a good thing, in my opinion. Be happy, and be the source of happiness for other people. The time you enjoy wasting is not a time wasted!

    • I hinted in the post I was 17
      What I achieved doesn't satisfy me (nor my actions), and I want to change that

      • You're 17 and your peers are doing that shit? I thought you were 17 years out of highschool, in your 30s. If you are still in high school and want to do something join some kind of competitive club or something. Explore different hobbies or experiences. To expect a 17 year old to have achieved those things you listed is absurd. It's great that you are thinking of your future now but don't stress out so much about it.

      • Your life hasn't even started yet. Just enjoy your life, your journey. Once you are old enough, you gonna miss this time. It's one of the best time of your life. Playing with friends, meeting new people, exploring new things, finding hobbies. When I was 17 I was thinking only about girls. I didn't have much responsibility outside of my study, and the biggest decision I've made at that time was choosing which major/ subjects I wanted to study in university. I achieved nothing when I was 17. Now I'm 35 years old, have a wife, a small house which has become our home, a small family with a daughter and a small dog, and am an attending neurosurgeon. I speak 4 languages fluently, can play music instruments (piano, guitar), sing as a hobby. I am satisfied with where I am, and the most important of all, I'm happy. :)

        Just take your time. The fact that you're thinking about your future means you are already one step ahead of most people your age. Keep doing what you think is right.

  • There is no end goal in life. If you are satisfied on the day to day, there's no reason to be depressed because other people do other things. An infinitely small number of people do the things you mentioned.

  • Not really. Part of my life's adventures have just been showing up.

    "Wasted" as in how? Who are you answering to? What standards are you judging by, and are they your standards, or the cultural standards pushed onto you by a capitalistic "must be productive" mindset? Or parents pushing their own hopes and dreams unrealized by the same mindset? Are these friends really successful?

    Maybe I was cursed or blessed by having parents who really didn't give a shit about me, were constantly "disappointed" by who I was, and not really caring about me as an individual person but how I made them look. My dad was a sociopath who never wanted children, and my mother was an alcoholic who wanted children to show that her marriage was successful and good unlike what all her relatives kept saying. Until she committed suicide and my dad threw me out while I was still a teen. Thankfully, I learned early on that my parents would NEVER be proud of me because it wasn't about me at all. It was about them. The disappointment was their motivator with no real strategy behind it, and they set me up to impossible standards with bad examples, and frankly, lies they were trying to make into truth. So I stopped seeking their judgement, because I could predict it would always be disappointment.

    Last time I spoke to my dad (1998), he asked what i was doing career wise, and I told him, and he dismissed it as "you have no idea what you are talking about," as if I was making it up. The thing was, I was still making money. The money was real, his opinion of my success was worthless. He had to one-up me, and always will. I felt so free after that, and never spoke to him again. He never missed me because he does not love me or hate me. He just doesn't think about me at all.

    The expectation of others is a powerful drug, I won't claim to be immune to it. But at a certain point, you have to ask who you are answering to when you determine your own success and failure.

  • Bruh you are 17. Life is just starting for you. My advice would to be find something you’re passionate about. If you’re not sure what you wanna go to college for, that’s okay, focus on what you love, and eventually you’ll make a career out of it. If you can live with your parents until you get your feet off the ground, you’ll be in a great position. I wish you luck. But please know you never wasted your life until you’re actually dead.

    • I really feel like the older I get, the less control I have around me. The older people around me seem like they don't want to move an inch from their comfort zone.

      I'm actually applying to colleges as an international student (a really out-of-box thing to do, I'm proud of that sure) which is how I kind of found these people exist (you know, "extracurriculars" stuff) and this kind of stuff are doable. I'm thinking of who I was 365 days ago and I improved myself so much. But I also missed so many opportunities in these 365 days.

      There is a lot in front of me and I'm anxious I'll waste my opportunities again, like I did. Perhaps I'm still not really doing as much as I should be and closer to what I've been in the past but I just can't see it yet, only future me could know.

      • Not everyone has to be grinding 24/7 to get the best available opportunities, if you're more the type to focus on school/life balance then that's fine as long as you end up stable. Chasing higher status is only going to draw you away from the things that matter to you personally.

      • Sure you might have “missed out” at certain times, but you still gotta enjoy life. If you had fun that day, and overall enjoyed it, it’s okay to be off the path.

        Older people always get stuck in their ways, but if you have a goal, then you should go for it.

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