What is a nifty little feature modern gadgets have lost?
For me it’s the notification light you used to find on older phones, was particularly good to know if your phone was charged without picking it up
Swappable batteries in mobile phones.
It will most likely come back due to EU legislation.
Nope, that EU legislation only requires batteries be replaceable, not swappable. In other words, you probably won't need a heat gun to replace it, but you'll probably still need a screwdriver.
The fairphone and pinephonenhave that.
Was about to mentioned it. I have the Fp5 and the only thing that i miss is the headphonejack. Everything else is there:
I miss 1998 and my nokia I could use for self defense.
I see this get talked about a lot.
Almost all my inside phone batteries I've had in cheaper knockoff phones have been replaceable. It's not as easy as pulling the back cover off and instantly swapping it, but it's not THAT much harder. It's doesn't exactly require microsoldering. Which is the reason why I know my last three have been replaceable despite being in-house.
Manufacturers really just need to make better and more secure charge ports. Having to resolder my last two blu phones and a Samsung because the charge ports go bad is just annoying.
Never had issues with a battery in all my years of using smartphones though.
Absolutely the damn LED. I would love to trade the stupid never-being-used selfie-cam for a damn 5 cent LED.
And swappable batteries. And a headphone-jack. And root by default (imagine you winpc came with no admin-pwd. Lol)... And....
I used to love customising the notification colour on my old phones, so good.
I miss my headphone jack so damn much, I'm over Bluetooth earbuds breaking constantly and being so damn expensive and low quality.
I used to have a similar problem - even if well reviewed, budget and midrange bluetooth earbuds would not last while budget-midrange wired earphones would last forever.
Think it's just build quality for bluetooth buds. I got a set of Galaxy buds, 1st gen, roughly 3+ years and still running strong to this day. Was not cheap though.
What I don't understand is why the notification LED was removed in the first place? It can easily be put under the screen.
The LED was so helpful, and it's so annoying when I don't see an important message for hours, because I haven't used my phone.
Because if you can read an LED notification system you have no purpose to pick up the cellphone.
Cellphones are not designed FOR YOU. They are designed by marketeers for you to use.
Once you realize this, all the anti-consumer shit makes sense.
I have no effing clue. Maybe to get us to actually look at the damn phone more often? Because of the people who're drowning in spam? Makes not THAT much sense. Probably to save a cent in circuit-design, because only the nerds were using the stupid LED? I really would like to know too.
I got all three on my XCover 6 Pro
Root by default is an awful idea.
Of course not by default, that'd be dumb. Every app that wants it pops up a Y/N-dialogue. That's how I want it. It's my phone, goddamit. I might've phrased that a bit misleading :-)
I also just don’t understand why apple didn’t put one in the dynamic island, could have worked really well
Not sure but you can have the back camera led flash when you get a notification at least.
3.5mm headphone jack
There are often enterprise versions that still have it. Like the S10E for example.
This going away has just make the Tiktok tide that much more horrendous. I work in a school. The hallways are nothing but that horrid shit blasting out of hundreds of bad speakers.
You don't think it'd still be the same even with the headphone jack still there? Wireless headphones and converters for wired headphones do exist, they just don't care.
My condolences. I stress out the moment a child thrusts a phone in front of me to watch a "funny" video
I can only imagine the hellscape that is your school
The newest Asus zenfone is still rocking it!
People keep going on about that and I get it from the point of not having to charge headphones all the time. But to me that is a very mild inconvenience compared to having to deal with those fucking cables all the time. I hate cables so damn much.
Oh, my problem isn't with charging them. They actually hold a charge for a super long time.
I’d like bluetooth earbuds a lot more if I could find some that aren’t “smart.” If I put on a beanie, I bump them. If I remove one earbud to converse, I bump it. I’ve not once intentionally used a gesture-based control on an earbud for anything else other than undoing the situation I’ve caused by bumping them. Otherwise, I control everything with my phone. If I’m working out, I just select my playlist, mute notifications, and I don’t have to touch anything after that. Gesture-based earbuds are not for me.
I really don’t think there are dumb bluetooth earbuds, though. At least, I haven’t been able to find any.
And I don't mind cables as much as you do. I think my favorite earbuds would be those that are connected to each other by a cable, but again -- only if they were not smart.
For me I'm just very attached to my earphones. I had tried out different earphones for a long time when I was younger before I discovered these and I've been using them for over 8 years now. I don't really want to switch to a different pair of earphones.
It's more than just having to charge them I wouldn't even really consider that much of a downside with how long they last. I haven't yet ran out of charge before I was ready to take mine out. The actual downsides are- Wireless earbuds are expensive. The batteries in them wear out over time and you have to buy all new ones which is wasteful. Bluetooth adds a noticeable delay that sucks when watching video. My car doesn't have bluetooth so I need a headphone jack for AUX. I have both and like wireless ones when I'm on the go but if I'm stationary wired don't cause any problems.
HTC just came out with a phone that has a headphone jack AND expandable memory. I hope they go for a gen 2 in the near future since it had some kinks to work out, such as a curved glass screen, becase then it would be just about everything I could ask for in a phone.
My Note 9 still has it!
WAVES OLD MAN CANE AROUND THREATENINGLY
First smartphone I had is still my favorite. Motorola Droid. I still have it!
The battery life is hell, though
Get a dongle. Get several. Stick them on the ends of all your headphones and aux cables and forget that you don't have a headphone jack on your phone.
I do have one. That's how I listen to music in my old ass car XD
But still I wish they'd just never removed something that was so useful and immediately accessible to everyone
I have like 5. It still doesn't make it less inconvenient. I use my earphones for my laptop for work and my phone when I'm commuting so I have to attach the dongle, plug it into my phone, get to work, unplug the dongle plug it in the laptop and do the whole process again when I go home and repeat every day. It's a pain. Not to mention the occasional times where you want to charge your phone while you're listening to music.
Privacy.
Have you tried not shitting with the door open?
My cat does not allow it.
But if I close the door how will people know the bathroom is occupied?
Try to let go of Google everything. Start by ditching Chrome and Chromium based browsers
I switched to duck duck go who knows how many years ago. Haven’t looked back.
Can’t even remember when I started using Firefox, but that was probably around the time when Opera became popular. Before Crome existed, I was already on FF and never regretted staying there. At that point, I was already somewhat aware of privacy matters, so switching to Chrome seemed completely stupid to me.
Headphone jack, bigger batteries, front facing speakers, SD card slot, IR blaster, magnetic field to let you use your credit cards at check out from your phone (MST) - THROUGH THE ACTUAL CARD READER SO THEY DIDN'T NEED GOOGLE/APPLE/SAMSUNG WALLET WHATEVER THE FUCK. I also agree that I miss the light too lol
That said, here's what I can't stand in newer phones: camera bumps. Unless you're a droid x or Nexus get that rocking on any flat service while I'm trying to type shit outta here. I don't give a shit about my cameras but if they need to be that fat and advanced, just make the rest of the phone that fat and give me the extra battery instead of making a tiny stovetop in the corner. Fuckin weird and dumb. Also camera cutouts in the screen, put that shit under the screen or set it next to a front facing speaker on the bezel. Also bezel-less phones, I know we're trying to fill our phones with screens but my fat palms don't care about that when I'm accidentally touching everything on the side while holding it
By far replaceable batteries. You used to be able to purchase physically larger and higher capacity batteries to get insane battery life, but because they would include a larger rear plastic for the phone it would still look normal. Now we have to waste space and lose efficiency with external power banks.
Physical buttons in cars for radio and environment settings.
There used to be a time when I could have my hand on the gear shifter and just reach out with my fingers to change radio stations or adjust the heat or a/c without needing to look down at all.
Now with modern touchscreens in cars, you can't do any of that. I have gotten used to playing with the radio via the steering wheel buttons, but anything else requires hunting around, looking for the correct spot to touch the screen.
And yet they say, "don't take your eyes off the road!"
IR blaster for smartphones. I still have one on mine and I can use it for tons of stuff, not just as a TV remote.
I even worked for a company who made lots of IR based products (taps/faucets, accessibility stuff) and it was amazing how many people had to buy the dedicated remotes for these products for extra money.
When I asked them if their phone has an IR blaster, so they could just download a free app and use it instead. "I have an iPhone" was the most common answer.
There are small and cheap USB-C IR dongles around nowadays - generally USB-C has been a blessing for making additional hardware features available on smartphones.
My current phone does have IR - though I'm not really using it much since most of the existing Android software for that is horrible (broken, ad-infested, requires account and access to everything, ..), and I have too many open projects to start another one for writing my own software for that.
IR blasters were such a treat, still fucking hate when the remote stops working or the battery runs out
Real keyboards where overrated, swiping is so much quicker. My s22ultra now lights up around the intire edge so again better than a single light. I have had this phone for over a year now and never even noticed it no longer has a headphone jack until lookingfor one at this moment. I will agree with the replacement battery as I would have continued using my note 5 and then my note 9 if the battery hadn't worn out.
Real keyboards where overrated, swiping is so much quicker.
And, ignoring the comma-splice, I see where the accuracy fails.
I have had this phone for over a year now and never even noticed it no longer has a headphone jack until lookingfor one at this moment
Why do you believe your use case and your habits are a relevant argument against the necessity of the jack? People who want it actually use it, what difference does it make if you personally don't need it?
Yeah swiping is nice if it exists in your language. Seems like a basic feature, but Apple doesn’t mind being 10 years behind everyone else. Still waiting for that awesome swiping feature to roll out. Probably not going to happen any time soon.
Sounds like what you want is a netbook.
Pretty much everything the Galaxy S5 had
I currently use a FP3 which has 4 out of the 6 features above, which I feel is the best we'll get right now.
Admittedly the Heart rate monitor is more of a gimmick nowadays, especially that it's standard and automatic on most smartwatches and sports watches. Back then when stuff like the Sony Ericsson LiveView and LG W100 watches were popular, they did not have heart rate sensing built in
All that while being water resistant, let's not forget! What an amazing phone
What do you mean water resistant? Phone with replaceable battery and headphone jack can't be water resistant! /s
IR blaster was the shit. Back then, there was an app called beep and go (I think) that held the barcodes for your loyalty cards. For someone that collected them like baseball cards, it was really handy.
Anyway, Samsung actually had the ability to transmit the barcode via the IR blaster which some scanners could read if they couldn't read the barcode on the phone.
It was awesome!
I agree that the heart rate monitor was a bit of a gimmick though.
IR blaster! I miss that feature. When my wife was sick in the hospital they had a TV with 10 stupid channels. But I found that the TV had a USB post. So I used a flash drive and my phone as the remote to let her watch TV shows while she was stuck in bed.
Wait, Galaxy phones no longer have a SD slot??
Even their $120 tablet has that. Why the fuck doesn't a $1k phone have it?? 💩
Kinda surprised that no one has mentioned the FM tuner. For reasons I never really understood, a lot of companies continued to build the hardware into phones but then wall it off with firmware.
My first MP3 player had one, my TV had one, there were even watches and lots of other devices that had one. People still listen to radio, so why don't they give us a tuner?
Data sellers probably paid them to turn it off.
Mostly because they needed a wired headset to act as the FM antenna since it needs a decent length to capture FM compared to the much higher UHF and GHz frequencies that the mobile network uses.
They solved the ,issing FM tuner by pushing DAB+. (Yeah, + so users can't record from radio)
It is commonly a thing in budget mediatek devices
If the phone has a headphone jack, it probably has that FM tuner.
Are you sure the hardware is still there? I only ask because given the number of hackers out there, I'm surprised someone hasn't come out with a patch or something to make it more ubiquitous.
A lot of it isn’t there anymore….
But because it was a hardware thing, the patch would involve rooting your phone, something most people won’t do.
I don't know if they still have it, but this was a well-known problem for a long time.
i think I recall that the Bluetooth hardware is essentially an FM tuner. Just needed a wired headphone to use as an antenna. My Moto Stylus 2022 still has it.
It's not strictly there as a separate feature. Modern radio chips in phones are universal programmable radios, they can catch and process any wavelengths if you install correct code into them and plug a correct antenna. The same radio chip processes your 5G, Bluetooth, WiFi and everything else.
What phones are missing are FM antennas and radio firmware with FM support. This FM support is a paid feature for phone makers, so they don't add it.
Everything. We're down to barebones and marketing now focus solely on camera software updates or phone materials ("now with titanium!" How fucking sad is that?) And they are all selling the same phone.
Some of the most important loses...
Swappable batteries changed travel for me. Always having two extra charged batteries in my backpack, that you could swap top 100% in 20 seconds, made me ONLY use my phone as a free and completely useful tool without any planning or restrictions on my use. Otherwise, you can't take too many pictures or videos, stream music or video or make video calls too long or you might be fucked when you need phone, GPS, payment or to get a rideshare to where you're staying.
Audio jack similarly meant freedom. Bluetooth headphones out of battery, broken or one earbud lost? Have a pair of wired in the backpack always add backup. Also better audio quality through wired with DAC on certain models and less daily device load to charge/babysit
secondary screens LG V10 had a bar on top, they also had the T shaped dual screen phone and the secondary screen phone case. There was just creativity and attempts at innovation.
microSD expandable memory, again less and less available and this was about freedom - fuck your cloud storage add its data leaks, corruption and redaction. I own my data, you don't control it.
The notification light would also let you know what type of notification it was by colour on my old Samsung Note.
Wait they took that away? I have an S9 and I rely on this to know whos messaging me. Blue is textra, purple is whatsapp, white is insta, green is signal.
An app called aodNotify brings this back for you if you don't have an iPhone. May take a little tweaking to get everything how you want but it's very customizable
Sony still does that.
Fingerprint sensor on the back of the phone
It was literally a perfect design.
The phone was already on by the time it was at your face.
I am sad for its loss
I'm holding on to my Pixel 4a until it dies because of this.
Hard disagree here. Your fingers are already on the display to use your phone, fingerprint reader in the front makes far more sense.
Often my phone is on a table, all I need to unlock it is touch the screen. No need to pick it up.
I wouldn't buy a phone with the fingerprint reader in the back.
My phone is face down most of the time if it's sitting on a table. This turns on silent.
Mine has it on the side, also good.
Meh, I prefer it under the screen personally.
I forget which Samsung galaxy model it was, maybe S6, but it had a universal IR blaster built into the phone which was super convenient for controlling all of my devices. I did however often abuse the shit out of it by flipping the channels on bar tvs or turning off the stereo receiver and nobody was ever suspecting it was me on my phone. I guess that's probably why they removed it lol, but it was fun while it lasted.
Headphone jacks and small phones
I picked up a Jelly Star which takes small to the extreme, and has a headphone jack
It's been good so far, minus the lack of 5G which means it won't work with my Android Auto adapter
I kinda of like big phones. Me and my poor eyesight enjoy being able to crank the text scale up without loosing too much screen real estate.
I still miss my 4-4.5" phones... maybe dust pff the Moto G's that still work. (See if there is an update on Lineage images)
Mine still worked a couple of years ago but 8gb of storage doesn't get you very far these days.
I miss buttons. This message was brought to you by fat thumbs.
That is exactly the clip I was hoping it would be.
Jebus, Simpsons really have done everything.
I wish there were smart phones with those little slide out keyboards like on some older phones, like a blackberry keyboard but slide out so it's hidden unless you are actively wanting use it. And forward, back, play buttons for music and podcasts without having to eff around with the screen and unlocking and stuff.
Headphone jack.
A real keyboard and general tactile-oriented inputs. Touchscreens are okay as a supplement like in the DS or Samsung devices that have a pen, but touch-centered everything has never stopped being a frustrating user experience. Even worse is the way companies have embraced it for business use as well. Heavy industrial machinery should not come equipped with unintuitive little interfaces that are clearly an afterthought at best.
The other thing is the general desktop metaphors, and file/folder structure. The way that Android, and so many apps, hide the file system from the end user just leads to more confusion when the user needs to use a file manager to track down where those apps have actually stored data only to (maybe) find them in the most pointlessly obscure locations.
Rootable modable phones, with a 3.5mm headphone jack, SD card slot, and an ultrasonic fingerprint reader cherry on top. Maybe some heart rate monitor sprinkles if you are so inclined. My S10 that I still use checks all of the boxes minus root. It feels like I have a sundae with all the high quality toppings I could want... but no proper ice cream. And I want the whole custom sundae, which these days seems impossible to find.
Tactile buttons, all my homies hate cap-sense
My Sony Xperia 10iii still has that light as well as a heaphone jack, SD card slot that can be removed by hand (no ejector tool needed) and full waterproofing. These are literally all the features missing on newer phones. Plus it has a genuine 3 cameras: wide, ultrawide and telephoto - no fake "macro" BS here.
Best of all it's successor the Xperia 10v can be bought on the UK Sony site for just GBP299! Incredible price. But alas I don't live there but if one had a friend there you could have them order it send it to you via courier.
I too miss the LED notification light. If you have an amoled display, check this out:
What's kinda crazy is we could reimplement the notification LED with blue OLED now just via software. Just no one has done it.
Edit: It's been done, but a quick Google search says it no longer works. I might get bored and write one.
Edit2: This one seems to be working fine for me.
Wouldn't that cause burn in?
I don't have a AOD enabled on my phone, but I'm pretty sure most AOD elements like this flash and/or move slightly to reduce risk of burn in.
Edit: by flash, I mean more of like "pulse" or "breathe".
That was one of my favorite features of the Nexus one. Didn't really need the track ball but being able to customize the color of notification light (I forget if that needed root or not) based on app was great. I'm guessing it must have been persistent blinking otherwise my current edge lighting notification would scratch the same itch, couldn't be just nostalgia on my part...
I was not able to find one for iphone
All the reviews seem to say it doesn't work on p6pro. What phone do you use?
Pixel 8
Simplicity.
iPhones are far too big and have too many huge cameras for me. Everything requires a subscription or some login to do anything. Applications and operating systems are updated at the whims of CEOs while the job of UX designers is de-prioritized. Software updates keep breaking established workflows. I can no longer rely on devices or apps to maintain a consistent experience from one year to the next. It's just been years and years and years of disappointment and stress as technology changes for the worse.
All this is pushing me towards a more unplugged lifestyle. Which is a bit ironic given how it adds more complexity with the need to own and travel with more things. A bag of five 'things' that always work regardless of network connection is better than a little tablet that could crash or die or be updated at any moment and having a significant impact on your lifestyle.
There's just no fucking zen anymore. I feel like I'm living inside a simulation built by the same people who brought us Windows 95.
IR blaster in phones
Xiaomi phones have IR blasters on new models. Good thing when you lose remote somewhere between wall and sofa 😊
If you are looking for something to set up at home then you can buy one of those
. They connect to Wi-Fi and you can teach them a set of IR commands that they can repeat.In the gaming sector, nothing has adequately replicated the stylus used by the DS, 3DS, and Wii U. It was the best way to play a few signature games like Elite Beat Agents (now incarnated as Osu) and Trauma Center: Under the Knife. Touchscreens are just a bit too universal and resilient for us to go back to them.
Headphone jack. Next to my bed is the one good Bluetooth headset, the two crappy backup sets for when it is charging, and the gigantic earmuff yardwork set for when the good one is still charging and the 2 shit ones have already died.
Just buy a dongle and you can use regular headphones.
Every single phone I've owned dongles stop working eventually while charging still works fine.
Just buy a dongle
Soooo sick of this "let them eat cake" bullshit.
Get the Fiio BTR5. It costs about $100 and has Quad-DAC from ESS just like one used in flagship LG phones. It can switch between Bluetooth and USB inputs, so you can use standard headphones to do phone calls wirelessly for example.
That's gotta be the slowest charging imaginable. 0.00001 Watts?
Less of a feature and more of a design, but I miss phones being small. The iPhone 4S was the perfect physical size IMO and that thing looks tiny compared to my fuckhuge S23U. The physical bloat of the past 5 Galaxys is why I've decided not to go with Samsung for my next mobile
But why did you buy the Ultra then? I have a S22 and it's just the right size (hell, even slightly smaller would still be nice).
You could have just gotten the normal S23?
They probably have their reasons. Still doesn't justify almost every phone being too big. whether it's 10% too big or 50% too big it's still too big.
Seconding this. I can appreciate a large screen but it has limits, if I can’t use my phone with one hand because my fingers can’t reach half the screen while palm holding it the design sucks. Sent from my unwieldy modern smart phone force using both hands.
Yep. I've been looking for my next phone for when my pixel 5 eventually goes and looking at Asus as it's the only current high end phone that's not bigger that 5".
I do not want a 6"-7" display. I want a 4"-5" display I can easy get in and out of my pocket, and be able to hold and use with one hand. Even a 5" screen is to big for my thumb to reach about 1/4 of the screen without moving my hand.
If you have access to an iPhone 4S, then try to use it for as couple of minutes, and then see if you still consider that 3.5 inch screen perfect size.
If you want a tiny phone, then why use the biggest one available? It's like saying I wish I could get a small economic car, and then drive a Humvee.
Apparently when it comes down to it, you don't really want a tiny phone.
I do and it's perfect.
why use the biggest one available
Because the biggest are often the top models and at the time that I bought this one, my job required a powerful mobile. The battery bypass feature, exclusive to the S23U, alone made it a non-choice.
You're making a lot of assumptions in your comment about me, what my workload on a mobile is, and my own tastes.
I’m on an iPhone 13 Mini — probably the last Mini model ever.
I like the form factor, but you really do notice the smaller battery. Most days, I’m at 20% by bedtime. If I run anything even semi-intensive throughout the day, I need a pit stop. I miss not worrying about it.
Main reason I stopped buying Motorola was the ever increasing screen size. I have bad elbows and extended phone use causes pain. A few ounces really does make a difference. A sub-5-inch phone with decent specs would be awesome.
Good keyboards on computers. At the office, everything are those extremely uncomfortable $5 dell keyboards. At a climbing gym or pool, the liability iPads that you sign forms on is using those really uncomfortable apple keyboards too.
I miss the better keyboards that we had back 25 years ago. Modern box jades bring some of that back for your own PC.
I'm sad that popup front cameras didn't catch on. I only remember 2 or 3 phones that had them. For me it's the perfect compromise - this way you can make an end to end screen without the need for a notch, and since I very rarely use the front camera, I wouldn't be too concerned about the durability of the popup mechanism. The only real downside I see is that it complicates waterproofing.
Memory card slots.
I can tolerate a missing headphone jack, a non replaceable battery, but a missing memory card slot is just too much.
At the moment, the only non Chinese brand of phones that includes this slot are Samsung I think. And even then, certain models also include it.
A few Motorola and Sony phones as well as the Fairphone still have them as well.
Motorola is Chinese they are owned by Lenovo
One big technical reason for this was actually the file system. Back when phones came with various types of sd-card support, they only had a few gigs of storage. fat32 was enough and was supported everywhere. But fat32 had some file system limitations and when sd-card sizes grew over 4gb there were comparability issues since windows was limited to fat32 and ntfs. I can imagine the support hell when a user couldn’t mount the sd card containing photos on his or her computer.
Samsung is Korean
Things in general used to be made to last / hard to break.
That's survivorship bias for sure