Linux too mainstream for some 🤷

Technically false
Gamer here, use Linux cause proton is good and I'm fed up with windows lol

This is probably an old meme. I use Linux as a dedicated gaming OS, macOS for everything else except when Linux is already booted or nothing is and I want to do something quickly.
- It's so old you can see the age on the image itself, lots of artifacting
- Why not Linux for everything else? Art apps?
- I use Windows only when a certain game has a quirk in Linux. Everything else is Linux. Video editing, photo editing, gaming, browsing, etc
I kind of really dislike the notion that you only use Linux because you are too poor for Apple.

I don't use Apple because I don't like to be stuck in a walled garden where a company decides what's best for me.

I know it's just a meme, but I think too many people actually think Linux is somehow inferior to Apple (MacOS) while I think it's the other way around.
- Also. MacOS is absolute garbage. I've used it for 4 months now, and it pisses me off how inconsistent it is, and poorly designed and written. Two days wasted because of an almost bricked laptop because the monitor was set to 60Hz while installing an update. Just think about that.
  
  I also had the misfortune of booting into windows after changing a motherboard. It was an absolute shit show there too, with broken drivers. Two hours of debugging. Had to use a long ethenet cable to even start fixing it, a flashback to a Linux experience I had in 2007.
  
  Same system in Linux? Not a single second spent. WiFi drivers, microcode. Everything worked fine. Only thing necessary was fixing the grub/mbr partition that Windows decided to write over, on a separate drive. But that's also Microsoft being shit.
  
  People just don't know how much more usable Linux is these days. Especially for power users. You can do so many things, so easily, that either works out of the box, or you can do with simple scripting. The only issue is software availability, but that too is mostly a thing of the past, and not really a fault of the OS.
- I kind of really dislike the notion that you only use Linux because you are too poor for Apple.
  
  It's supposed to be funny 🤷 😂, like a very simplified version of how things actually are.
- You’re confusing iOS, where you are in a walled garden, with macOS, where you can just do whatever the hell you want (There’s a recovery partition you can boot to where you can disable just about every bit of security that’s not hardware much like booting to grub in Linux)
Proton is so fucking good these days
I'm close to switching to Linux with proton
- Go for it 👍.
- Bottles is great, and it puts links in for you into Steam, so you can launch the games directly from inside the Steam client.
Not good enough for DRM games, most mmo games or playing on private servers in minecraft or something.
- What's are you talking about with Minecraft? I've always been able to joins any server cause it's the same game.
- Minecraft works perfectly fine, pretty sure it runs natively on Linux actually.
- If the DRM or anticheat needs low enough level access that it won't run in wine I don't think I really want it running on my computer either way.
- I think it's almost at the point where the only games that don't work are games with anti cheat that refuse to play nicely.
- most mmo
  
  I play WoW, SWTOR, and New World just fine.
  
  Which MMOs were you thinking about?
- minecraft (java, not sure about bedrock) on linux is flawless, private servers work exactly as they do on windows.
- Cool Edge Lord points, bruh.

Do you fear God?

Yes -> TempleOS

In puberty? Hannah Montana Linux.

Kim Jong Un is god? Red Star OS. There's a Linux distro for everyone.
- Are you sus?
  
  Yes --> AmogOS
- catgirl? UWUNTU
No -> https://ubuntusatanic.org/about
Do you make a furry comic from the 90's?

Yes -> Amiga
- Context?

~~Are you rich?~~

Are you bad with money?

Just because you're bad with money does not mean you can afford an Apple product.
- Just because you cant afford an apple product doesn't mean you won't buy one (on credit)
Worth every penny IMO, MacOS is super nice and so is the hardware.

(I don't have a mac, wish I did though).

Cue the apple hater replies, this will be fun.
- Mac was fantastic in the '80s
  
  Mac was great in the "90s
  
  Mac was good in the '00s
  
  Linux Mint was fantastic in the '10s
- (I don't have a mac, wish I did though).
  
  Worth every penny IMO, MacOS is super nice and so is the hardware.
  
  Putting all my legitimate Apple/MacOS concerns/arguments aside, how can you declare a product as "Worth every penny" when you yourself have not used it for an extensive period of time? Attempted to integrate it into your workflow?

Linux gamer here

Works no probs

Wrong. I've ran into a ton of issues recently with proton. Don't act like it's flawless. It needs a lot of work.
- most of us that gave up windows did so because it had tons of issues. Don't act like windows is flawless, MS stopped putting in work.
- Lemmy trying to act like Linux is less work than Windows for gaming, the delusion is palpable
- It needs work, but it's a lot better than what Windows has to offer regarding legacy games.
- What games do you play?

This flowchart is wrong.

If I follow this reasoning, I should be running windows. I am not running windows, Ergo, either it is incorrect or I am incorrect. And I refuse to believe I'm incorrect.

That’s because this image is dated af.

This is quite dated somehow

That doesn't mean it is not a great meme!

Just look at all the butt hurt comments complaining about the content :)

All roads lead to Hannah Montana Linux.

I'm waiting for a Mariah Carey Christmass Edition Linux.
- I may have spent too many years in the service industry

This is Fedora erasure

You can blame IBM for that...
- Fedora's still a good distro. I would always recommend it over Ubuntu and Debian for a home user with a bit of technical affinity.
We will rise.

This is a old meme

You can tell because it suggests Linux isn't for gamers but Valve has its own game console that runs on Linux. It'd be pretty stupid if a game console couldn't run games.
- You can also tell just by how jpegged the image has become.
- By the way, what OS do other game consols run?

logic-gate-keeping

I wonder if we can make a 8 bit adder out of gate keeping
no its NOT

I am once again asking:

Do you fear God? —(yes)—> TempleOS

Do you fear God? —(no)—> HannahMontanaOS

I had a friend about 25 years ago who was very much into Quake Arena. His gaming setup ran on BSD. Now that I've been gaming on Linux for several years, I've really come to appreciate how much work it must have been to get that setup running smoothly in the late 90s. He died a couple of years ago. I sometimes wish I could call him up and get some advice.

Wow... just wow... QIII on BSD 25 years ago... yeah, that must have been hell to set up...

This one didn't age quite as poorly as some of the others. I have gotten to the point of generally preferring Linux gaming now though. Bsd is still a bit lacking for my general computing but opnsense on my router is one of those 'where has this been all my life?' things.

OpnSense wasn't quite there yet a few years ago. Now, it's golden 👍! Don't know why people still prefer pfSense over OpnSense, it's so much easier to set up and maintain.
- I didn't try pfsense but it sounded like opnsense suited me better and I have had no reason to change so far. It has also made managing my self host stuff so much easier but a lot of it is pending being redone with more future proofing.

Linux gaming is better than Windows imo. No tracking, random bsod, shit just either works or it doesn't. If it doesn't, you make it work.

Eh? I don't get BSODs because my compositor simply crashes (requiring a system restart, as the compositor will crash again if restarted) or my graphics driver hangs. Can't remember the last time I bluescreened on Windows except for when I was testing an unstable RAM overclock.

I won't say Linux gaming is better than Windows, but I will say it's good enough that I don't miss Windows at all even after a few years.
- Hm, weird! I never experiences crashes, except if I leave my pc on for days on end
- I do. Last Monday between 8-11am. But on a school PC. 64-bit Windows 10 Pro doesn't seem to play well with slow ancient 80GB HDD, ancient entry-level single-core CPU and 1GiB of RAM leaving just 45MiB free when nothing else than task manager was open.
  
  Can't blame Windows here though. It couldn't even run Linux Mint XFCE (crashed after opening Firefox). This week I "upgraded" it to Windows 7 SP1. Yes, it's connected to internet. But don't worry, we also have Windows XP machines connected to internet.
  
  Just a funny note: One of the requirements from these computers is that they run the newest version of Cisco Packet Tracer... which requires 4GB of free RAM. Yeah, sure.
The only time I've seen a bsod in the last 10 years was because of faulty RAM that would've crashed any OS just as hard.
- I work in IT and I see them weekly. Most of the time caused by Microsoft updates or people not shutting down their pc for over a week
You're delusional
- Why you even on linuxmemes ?

My comment is still compiling from source

lol 🤣🤣🤣

How to tell someone is a Linux gamer?

don't worry, they'll tell you all about it
- hey, linux gamer here!

As always my boy openSUSE left to the wayside :(

There's probably a chameleon there, but well camouflaged...

What is hoodie?

You would choose no.
- But what is it?
- But what is it?
Hoodie OS. Used by people who type one line into a terminal to bring down the government and say "I'm in" when they extract data from databases.

I am one of the few who once had BSD installed on a laptop, and GOD DAMN do I miss being that weirdo.

You can still do it 🤷 👍.

How is Fedora not there?

"Does IBM pay your salary?" isn't in the flowchart. :)
It should be in the box with Debian instead of whatever that is.
- https://distrowatch.com/table-mobile.php?distribution=alma
  
  That is the fork of RHEL. Probably better to put Fedora indeed.

I knew nothing about linux 2 years ago and started with installing Debian on my surface go 2. This explains why I couldn’t get the web cam to work to this day.

Try frimware binary blob packages, those usually have whatever to make the thingie work with the Linux kernel.
- I’m not sure what do you mean by firmware blob but Ive done the following:
  
  Added non-free to the sources file.
  
  Installed Surface-linux lib.
  
  There is a guide in surface-linux library which requires compiling something with CMAKE. I’m not comfortable at the moment to do it since I don’t have the time to fix it if something went wrong.
  
  I couldn’t find a good touch gui for debian so ill give ubuntu a shot.

I'm on NixOS where do I fit

That's a new concept... should be somewhere between Linux admin and Hoodie IMO... or maybe before Linux admin.
On the hidden "Do you believe that everything should be defined as code?"
- Do you "see the matrix"?

I'm actually curious what BSD provides in comparison to Linux. What does it add, do better, or worse?

The only thing I know is that they introduced some stuff way before linux did, but that's simply due to the age. BSD jails for example have been around for a long time. Buy beyond that, it was never apparent to me why linux took off and BSD didn't.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

Bsd is a complete package and tested as such. All the software and everything. It's like windows, when it's released you install it and you get wordpad, edge, calculator etc. Bsd is the same that way. Linux is just a kernel, with the distributions bolting on the gnu software. I know it sounds kinda the same but it's not.

Also the license. With Linux I think you need to cite it's use and you can't charge for something build with it (of course there's exceptions, like packages you create do not need to be for example), but bsd license is the most permissive. You can charge a customer for it and dress it up however you want.

No systemd.

There's some other stuff too
- You don't need to cite, you need to provide source code. The point of GPL is to allow the user to inspect and modify the software. You can even sell it as long as you provide the modified source code under the same license.
- Thanks, that's the best explanation I've gotten so far 👍
  
  CC BY-NC-SA 4.0
I would say the biggest advantage is that OpenBSD is a very security-focused distribution, in a way that I don't think any Linux-based distro has adopted.

The other advantage is ZFS. 10-20 years ago, there was no equivalent, and btrfs was in its infancy. These days, btrfs has proven that it is pretty stable and resilient. There might still be some advantages of ZFS over btrfs, but I haven't used either one at all, so I can't really be sure.

Outside of that, the BSDs are basically just different distros. Back in the 90s, when there was a lot more diversity in Unix, a lot of people just started out with *BSD because there was no clear choice at the time. People just like to use what they are more comfortable with - but most new users pick Linux over BSD these days, and a lot of people who started out on BSD have assimilated onto Linux.

Still, diversity is a good, nice thing, especially with the advent of systemd. So I'm glad we still have the BSDs around, even if I disagree with their stance toward the GPL.
- Also zfs on Linux has been a thing for a while now
- There might still be some advantages of ZFS over btrfs, but I haven't used either one at all, so I can't really be sure.
  
  Curently, there are none. In fact, BTRFS has outperformed ZFS in every aspect in the past few years, including filesystem growth (when changing drives, put in bigger ones, something you could never do with ZFS).
  
  Outside of that, the BSDs are basically just different distros. Back in the 90s, when there was a lot more diversity in Unix, a lot of people just started out with *BSD because there was no clear choice at the time. People just like to use what they are more comfortable with - but most new users pick Linux over BSD these days, and a lot of people who started out on BSD have assimilated onto Linux.
  
  The main reason is more drivers and software. Sure, it might be fun compiling from source when you're young, but at the end of the day, when you wanna get work done, you really can't tell your customer (or boss) "look, I really can't deal with this right now, I'm building FF from source". Also, one of the main reasons why Gentoo and LFS have a fairly small user base.
  
  Still, diversity is a good, nice thing, especially with the advent of systemd. So I'm glad we still have the BSDs around, even if I disagree with their stance toward the GPL.
  
  There are distros that don't use systemd, Void being the most prominent of them all (mainly because of the number of packages it has in it's repo).
You get to write your own drivers from scratch, so you know for sure no one is spying on you 👍.

Linux took off because, one, it wasn't backed up by an institution or a company, just one guy doing weird stuff with his computer, and two, because of the license. People don't like investing time in something that others might use for free in their commercial products. And not only that, but they're not bound by law to release the source for that. And this is the reasson why every printer out there runs a BSD variant, not Linux.
Yea I don't use Linux much but both my router and nas are running BSD. Also I found out the PS5 runs BSD. Guessing the benefits are a stable OS as my router/nas often have uptime in the months with my NAS once running over a year without being restarted.
- No, it's because BSD has a permissive license, unlike Linux. You have to release source if you change the source, which is not what BSD is about. BSD says "here's the source, do whatever you want with it".
ZFS is stable as fuck there. Perfect for running a file server.
- BTRFS is there as well in the past few years or so.

FreeBSD is too mainstream, I use 9front

Wherefore art thou Fedora? Et tu Rocky?

I use Void Linux because I don't have too much free time (for figuring out all the little moments with configuring something more automated like Debian for my laptop, or for compiling stuff in Gentoo, or for micromanaging Slackware).

Void saves you compiling time as well 👍.

The menace of those who run kali as a daily driver for the lulz

Alma

That's a funny way to spell Rocky

Reject modernity, return to typewriters

Trouble is, they can't do lots of other things that computers can 🤷.

whats that at the end?

That's FreeBSD, if I recall TrueNAS is based on it

Wikipedia if interested
- Truenas Core is Freebsd-based, Truenas Scale is debian-based i believe.
- Not sure where I’d put net- or open- in this, but I guess it’s meant to cover them all
FreeBSD. It's the new logo, the old one was with a little devil with a trident.
Looks like TempleOS tier OS

i play games sometimes and gimme mint

Honestly now pristine m1 macs can be bought on eBay or Gumtree they are not for just the rich anymore

Yes but Linux support is still bad and the stock OS is terrible.

Sad bsd noises.

Lmao that was a fun ride

Alma Linux being on here gave me a chuckle. Pour one out for a real one.

I'm a Linux gamer, can you adjust it too do you play certain games that don't run on Linux? !linux_gaming@lemmy.world Edit: fixed the link

Someone have the list of all those brands?

From top to bottom and left to right

Chrome OS

Windows

Mac OS

Ubuntu

Pop!_OS

Linux Mint

Debian

?

Kali Linux (?)

?

Arch Linux

?

?

Anyone want to help out fill in the blanks?
- I know that after arch is Gentoo, the last one is FreeBSD

I only run TempleOS.

I have to admit I used FreeBSD as my daily driver years ago. But I've also used everything else in the list at one point or another.

You work in IT, no doubt... the only reason to try/troubleshoot everything there is out there 😂.
- Lol, yep. Twenty years give or take testing just about everything along the way. 😂

where void linux

Yeah, that was a bummer for me as well 😔. Should be there with Arch and next ones should be Gentoo and LFS.
You don't choose the Void, the Void chooses you.

Is your desktop equipped with a spark blanket and a fume hood? -> JavaOS

Talked about linux in discord the other day and all the linux people were fucking annoying as shit about it

They're probably kids and feel like 1337 for using Linux. It's just an OS, like any other.

I seriously doubt any community out there gets as much comments as Linux Memes 🤣🤣🤣. You just drop a pic and everyone is like "uuu, I gotta comment on that, can't resist 😬" 🤣🤣🤣.