Memes @lemmy.ml

1y ago

For real tho

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The real MVPs are websites not needing a cookie banner because they only use required cookies for which you dont need a banner.
- They still have to inform you, right? Like with some banner at the edge of the page telling that they use cookies, just no need for a popup asking you to accept or decline.
  
  No it’s only for tracking cookies. If you just have cookies for login, for example, then there’s no need to ask permission
- Indeed.

Just FYI - it's mandatory to have a button like that next to the 'Accept all'.
Every site that doesn't do it should be reported.
- To where?
  
  Straight to internet headquarters of course.
  
  The serious answer is to whatever your country's internet regulation agency is (assuming your in the EU, else you're out of luck). So for example, in France that would be the CNIL, in Germany it's the BfDI, etc.
  
  The police
- If that's so it's incredibly poorly enforced to the point where complaining is unlikely to have any effect at all. Most Sites have a button that leads To a secondary menu where cookie preferences can be set. Perhaps this meets the mandate you speak of? It's a much more common setup.

Or just sites that don't need a consent popup because they don't sell your shit.
- "well, we're not selling it, we're just using 247 advertising agencies to measure the general performance of our site. Nothing targeted, we'd never do that." - totally legit companies that absolutely value user rights
  /s, if that wasn't obvious enough.

The real MVPs are website not having cookies altogether

NEVER click decline all. There are loopholes built in that still grant access to "legitimate interest" cookies, which are recognized differently from "consent cookies." If you click reject all, it still allows collection of certain personal info through cookies labeled legitimate interest. Which is entirely up to advertisers to categorize.
As annoying as it is, always open up options and manually uncheck cookies.
- Seriously? Why does everything just have to be awful all the time now?
  
  People moved away from "I want to make a living" to "I need every ounce of money I can get"
  
  $$$
- With TCF 2.2 "legitimate interest" is no longer allowed (but that's probably only for IAB members). At our company we already had a rule where we disabled all "legitimate interests" from our vendors, so I assume there are other companies that do the same.

I highly recommend the Firefox extension “I still don’t care about cookies” as a great successor to the original
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/istilldontcareaboutcookies/
- I think ghostery has an auto decline all that works on most websites.
- Does it work on Vivaldi?
  
  Works with Vivaldi https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/i-still-dont-care-about-c/edibdbjcniadpccecjdfdjjppcpchdlm

My favorite banner is from geizhals.de that only says "We recognize you set "Do not track" and we respect that."
Edit: autocorrect corrected
- Yeah, my university's intranet (and I believe also their homepage, but I'm not sure) has the same
- Too bad the "do not track" message makes you easier to track on every other website

In Firefox 120+ about:config -> cookiebanners.service.mode 2 (from 0)
No addons required.
- Does this accept them?
  
  This seems to be the config: cookiebanners.service.mode = 1 (reject all) or 2 (reject all or fall back to accept all).
  So on 2 it would reject all, and if not possible, accept all.

Istilldontcareaboutcookies + cookieautodelete - you da real mvp

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/consent-o-matic/
- You can also enable the easy list for cookies in uBlock Origin. It misses some but for the most part it works.
- I've had that running for a while now, sadly some sites give you the option "accept all cookies" or "deny all by getting a monthly subscription" which if using this extension will automatically redirect you.
  Aside from that little downside it has made browsing so much better.

✅ Delete cookies and site data when Firefox is closed
- How do you delete data that’s already transferred to their servers while you visit the page? You don’t need a cookie to uniquely identify a user.
  https://www.amiunique.org/fingerprint
  
  What's there to transfer if they aren't to be found at all?
- Every browser can do that. Some can delete cookies when closing a tab or even when leaving a domain for another.

I think they will break laws (in countries with basic respect for human right) if they don't have that option.
- Wait, fr? What countries are those?
  
  EU Cookie Directive applies to all website owners within the EU aswell as Websites which target EU users.
  It gives clear rules for different categories of cookies like how you need to display them and for which you actually need consent to be allowed to use them.
  It also sets rules for how easy certain actions have to be and granularity.
  (very simplified)
  
  Any country in the EU as it’s part of GDPR, for example.

But does it really decline all, or are you agreeing to their "legitimate interest" of stealing your data?
Data collection is theft, change my mind.
- I agree.
  Unless I click "Accept All".
  
  Man the worst I saw was a petrol station, when you walked in up to the tills there was this little sign on a floppy plastic thing that said they had face recognition running and a QR code to scan. The text of the sign mentioned "legitimate interests" but in no way directed users to scan the code and go to the website to object their consent.
  It's such bullshit. These companies collect up the data we produce and sell it for pure profit, without offering anything in return. The data brokerage industry is worth multiple trillions of $ per year, with only $8bn people in the world it stands to reason that the average user's data is worth $1,000 per year, but they just pick that out of our pockets and use it against us.

Some US news websites still geoblock European visitors rather than fix their site to not track the ever loving fuck out of visitors who say no. So imagine what they're doing to their domestic visitors.
- I liked it when some news sites did plain text only if you didn't accept cookies. So no cookies, no ads and don't have to deal with your crappy css? Why would I ever accept that? It was wonderful.

See our legitimate partners (1724)...
I don't want my data sent to 1724 partners just because i am curious to see what that click bait of a title really meant
- I think the moral of the story is don't fall for clickbait

how certain are you that this will truly block them all? Many of these things may have a "Legitimate interest" thing going on, and I do not trust those prompts to object to that by pressing "reject all"
- RON SWANSON: I reject all cookies.
  Wait, I don't think I was clear enough. I didn't ask to reject a lot of cookies. I reject all cookies.
- legitimate interest is still not a valid legal basis for data collection/tracking in Europe, so it's not that big of an issue (...but it still allows them to do more they usually can without "legitimate interest"). also most tracking scripts and cookies will be blocked by uBlock anyway

Should be the default option

I hope that includes what other sites would call "strictly necessary". No thanks, if your site won't work without, then I don't need to visit.
- What's the issue with "strictly necessary" cookies? Seems like that would keep me from seeing about 70% of the pages I visit, if I were to completely refuse SN cookies. I just turn off all extemporaneous cookies. If they want to remember me for the few weeks between a cookie purge, go right ahead.

uBlock origin on Firefox blocks almost all tracking sites. You can enable cookies or disable them, it doesn't matter because they aren't sent anywhere. Unless the site has some homebrew tracking solution.

Haha Consent-o-Matic go brrr

Ghostery plugin gang rise up!

Vivaldi has setting to block these.

ITT a horde of people who don't know that http is stateless. Cookies are the easiest and least intrusive way to maintain your session.
- And those are allowed under GDPR as necessary cookies
  
  No prompt needed even
- Also an easy way to store needed variables between pages. For news sites without a sign up this isn't necessary but for actual web apps that live across different subdomains it can be a nice to have.

Use the I don't care about cookies extension its wonderful. Using it on my desktop and android Firefox.
- This does not decline the cookies, it does whatever is easier

Minimal Viable Product?

Because your decline doesn't matter to them. They will track you even if you explicitly say NO.

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