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1y ago

America: Getting ready for another election. Rest of the world:

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needs more jpeg
- [softly] Don’t.
- I was going to use more jpeg.com but it couldn't do webps. I didn't want to convert it on my phone somehow so I screenshot instead. However it made me curious and my file manager was able to convert it easily by typing in jpg for the type. So I uploaded that instead and it worked.
  Anyway, here you go: https://morejpeg.com/Image/View/3377e20f-8894-ee11-8100-8b81c820316e
- One day the internet will be filled with indecipherable images whose meanings will be lost to the sands of time, but people will just keep posting them out of tradition because “that’s just what you do.”
  
  Long after the human race is dead, bots will be the only presence online. They'll repost the same posts and they'll make the same comments and replies and upovote each other till the end of eternity.

I don't know how to feel about this election as an ameribro.
I'm left-libertarian (upper case left, lower case libertarian) on the political compass, which is practically not represented in US politics, so I'll take whatever I can get. Biden is, realistically, the best I can hope for this election cycle. He's not great, there's a lot of big policy issues I diverge with him on pretty sharply (both on left and libertarian), but the other candidates for the DNC are a hot fucking mess. As for the libertarian party, it's actually insane. Gary Johnson got booed for saying he'd want people to have driver's licenses to drive. That's a no go for me. And as far as the conservatives go, they run the gamut from not an instant disaster (I guess) to the loud, proud, and complete end of the republic.
Biden has at least done some things that I kinda like, and doesn't seem keen on destroying the republic. I'd love to get a reformer in and sweep Reaganism out on its wrinkled, swampy ass forevermore, but I don't think that's realistic at this point. Where I start getting worried is that the Biden campaign seems dead set on repeating some frankly terrible HRC '16 strats, which, well, we saw how well that worked for her, but the pro-Biden response is "Trust me bro, Trump is actually unelectable this time". I'm also concerned because, let's face it, Biden's old enough that he could get struck down with a stroke or what have you at any minute.* Every day, the cosmic dice are getting more and more weighted against him. The democrats have done very little to make a case for a possible candidate/president Harris, where the republicans have laid a LOT of groundwork against her. If Biden bites it or gets incapacitated, Harris is going to have a huge uphill climb in front of her.
I guess where I get uneasy is that it feels like the democrats are making a lot of avoidable and predictable mistakes, and they're just banking that it won't blow up in their face this time because, uh, what, that was that time, this is this time? They could do better, but they're just going to choose not to, and be shocked if shit goes sideways.
*I mean, so could Trump, but I'm not hoping that he wins.
- Political compass is libertarian (that kind of libertarian) propaganda used primarily by neo-nazis. You should take anyone using it seriously.
- I wish you the best of luck with your strategic voting, hopefully the lesser of two evils has some amount of representation for you.
  I don't really understand the US' electoral system, but you guys seem really boned by the whole two party system. Like no wonder everyone is so grumpy and unsatisfied all the time when you guys seem to just have two big parties that span such wide gamuts of views and policies.
  
  Basically, yes. Speaking as someone who's voted third party before, there's no hope of changing the system by voting third party at the federal level. Game theory on first-past-the-post elections and the absolutely insane amount of money in our elections practically ensures it. The best way to effect change there is to go to some form of transferrable vote or ranked choice vote at the state and local level. There are already some states whose electoral college splits its votes in this way, and the two main parties (and their big donors) hate it because it erodes their ability to take a state's vote for granted and weakens their duopoly.
- Libertarians are nothing but hipster conservatives. It doesn't make you sound smarter, quite the opposite.
  
  My views align much more closely with Anarcho-Communism than US conservatism. I'm not an Anarcho-Communist because all evidence I've seen thus far suggests that truly functional Anarcho-Communism (which has existed historically) is dependent on small enough communities that there are few to no truly anonymous interactions and/or a strong social cage of norms that ends up being morality police with extra steps.

Most of us are right there with you. What's most important though is that most of us in like 4 swing states are also right there with you.
- Prolly even like in some red states as well.
  The American election system has so many flaws, that I am surprised that no politician cares enough for that to change.
  
  Things work really well here for you if you're amoral and wealthy. So like 99% of elected officials.
  
  I saw a video of republicans outraged because someone was apparently trying to change the voting system to use ranked voting, and this would destroy the two-party system (yt link) which apparently would be a horrible thing to happen
  Strange that they worship the founding fathers so much and insist that the system they put in place is perfect and must never be changed when John Adams wrote (google books link):
  There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.
- lets hope they dont get distracted with the economy or some other shit
  
  Did you know that Biden is like three and a half years older than Trump? I mean. What were his parents thinking?

You know what, I'm just gonna say it. American's stupid political situation will destroy the world. There I said it.
- Thank decades of education cuts.
- America has delusions of adequacy. They couldn't even win a war against unarmed civilians. TWICE! You're not that important.

America:

Not just that, soon after the US election, the UK will be gearing up for their General Election. Latest is the end of January 2025 according to a quick search.
- By all polls and sentiment, it seems like it's going to be a goddamned bloodbath for the tories. I'm actually kinda pumped, I hope they get everything that's coming to them.
  
  It's going to be bittersweet in a way because of Labour not being particularly great either, but yeah, they've had it coming for a very long time.

Americans are saying the same thing...

I feel the need to repost CGP Greys Playlist on Voting (or why the american version is so very very bad)
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Damn, I read election with an R at first and was already getting worried. 😅
- I’d be nervous about that too
  
  Is it going to last more than 4 hours?
- Won't it be a reelection either way (assuming it ends up being Trump v Biden)? Not that it really matters, I'm just curious now lol
  
  Bro, he read it as 'erection' 😂

I am often wrong, but I cant imagine anything crazier than the 2016 election. What a ride.

It's proving to be extremely difficult to escape U.S. politics on lemmy as a european because the rest of the world is vastly outnumbered here. But at least it's not voat or ruqqus... I'll take left wing morons over right wing removed any day.
- There aren't any left wing candidates in the US.
  
  I think we're the "left wing morons" that are being referred to here.
  
  That isn't true. They're in the Green Party.

Americans: "Voting 3rd party is a waste of a vote, you need to vote the lesser fascist or democracy is over"
Also Americans: [pencils in the stupidest shit to the point a fictional character wins the popular vote]
- Americans: “Voting 3rd party is a waste of a vote, you need to vote the lesser fascist or democracy is over”
  This is unironically the truth.
  
  and they're going to continue to dangle that in front of you until it happens.
  
  Nah, it is what the Republicans and Democrats want you to believe so they don't lose power.
- Do you have a helpful statement?
  
  Use that fancy internet thing of yours to organize a mass movement and vote for a 3rd party candidate that represents the people.

Putin's reelection is soon...
- In two countries at once! What a time to be alive...

Laughs nervously from north of the border

Bookmarked for perusal every 2-4 years for the rest of my life 😮‍💨

I don't care about USA elections
- No person outside the US does, but yet we get affected by them with their constant invasions both culturally and military.
  
  I'm in the U.S. and I'm pretty sure I don't care either, the campaigns go on for way way too long.
  
  Except it feels like when republicans gain power we move three steps closer to ww3.
  
  Elect Dems: get invasions and genocides but don't worry we love you <3 uwu >.< (this message is brought to you by the CIA's EDI "Authentically Me" program, we ensure each and every bomb dropped on you was manufactured in Raytheon's inclusive workplace)
  Elect GOP: get invasions and genocides but were mericuhh so deal with it bishh

American Civil War II feels closer every day.
- Doog whiisstlleeesss

Can you just not, mkay?

Based on current polling, Trump will wind in a landslide. People are fucking stupid.
- He won't. Polls don't work anymore. But let's not get complacent.
- No one asked me so think of who they are actually polling.
- Great. He'll be the first incarcerated president.
  
  *incinerated

I feel agitated.

If you talk about America in any negative light it's always assumed to be relevant to the election, and they feel obligated to interject with, "this is how you get Trump" at any opportunity. To accept criticism of America they need to make sure this phrase stating the obvious is included somewhere: "Democrats may be bad sure, but they're clearly better than Trump." Unless you express that specific sentiment you're assumed to either be an idiot or helping Trump get elected. Always very touchy when it comes to their asinine politics and obsessed with making sure everyone agrees with them or you're their worst enemy.
- It doesn’t help that the “both sides are bad” argument is commonly used by right wing trolls. Lots of liberals have the immediate reaction to get defensive because they’ve seen how quickly the “ugh this specific thing I don’t like sucks” argument devolves into “nothing has changed with Joe so it doesn’t make a difference,” which leads into “might as well not vote at all, or vote red because it doesn’t make a difference.”
  
  Just the phrase "both sides" on it's own can get this ridiculous charade going. Both sides are political parties in the US, both sides further America's geopolitical interests, both sides are largely financed by corporate donors who donate to both parties, both sides are economically right wing, both sides engage and amp up the post-political partisan spectacle. "HEY THIS RUSSIAN TROLL SAID THE BAD WORDS!"

Most expensive reality show ever made.

If only the Dems could just replace Genocide Joe with someone that isn't a senile piece of shit this wouldn't have to be a moral dillemma
- If Biden is senile, then trump is an amorphous blob of barely sentient biomass.
- Oh give over. How is Biden senile but Trump isn't? Maybe if there weren't so many myopic takes like this all over the internet, people could actually talk about all of Biden's policy wins.
  
  Them both being senile geriatrics doesn't make this any better.
  The last two months have undone any kind of "win" Biden made.
  You do genocide you get minus infinity points.
- NOOOOOOOO you have to love and kiss Joe Biden who else could even run you must love trump if you don't want to vote Joe NOOOOOOOO it's your fault if trump wins now, not the democrats fault for running a dinosaur
  
  wtf did you just say? you don't wanna let Joe smell your hair? THIS IS HOW WE GET TRUMP!!
  
  Trump is 3 years younger than Biden and was the oldest president ever elected at the time.

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Trump: I'm trying to.

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