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Republicans Are Blurring the Faces of Capitol Rioters so They Won't Get Arrested

www.rollingstone.com Republicans Are Blurring the Faces of Capitol Rioters so They Won't Get Arrested

House Speaker Mike Johnson said that the release of Jan. 6 security footage has been delayed in order to blur the faces of rioters.

House Speaker Mike Johnson has promised to release more than 44,000 hours of surveillance footage from Jan. 6 to the public, with one major caveat: The faces of some individuals who participated in the storming of the Capitol, a violent attempt to prevent the certification of Joe Biden’s election, will be blurred out.

In a press conference on Tuesday, Johnson said that “the release of the January 6 tapes is a critical and important exercise, we want transparency … we trust — House Republicans trust — the American people to draw their own conclusions.”

Johnson added that the party is going “through a methodical process of releasing them as quickly as we can” and that they “have to blur some of the faces of the persons who participated in the events of that day because we don’t want them to be retaliated against, and to be charged by the DOJ and to have other, you know, concerns and problems.”

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Republicans Are ~~Blurring the Faces of~~ Obstructing Justice So Capitol Rioters so They Won't Get Arrested
FTFY
- His office later noted that DOJ already has the raw footage.
  and later in the article:
  Johnson's spokesman suggested that the speaker was trying to keep the raw footage away from online sleuths who have helped identify hundreds of Capitol rioters and aided in the FBI's investigation.
  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/speaker-mike-johnson-says-blurring-jan-6-footage-rioters-dont-get-char-rcna128181
  i.e. Let's not let the taxpayers aid law enforcement. Let's make the government spend taxpayer dollars when the public could help out.
  
  Sounds like we're going to find Mike Johnson or people close to him financially in the mix.
  
  Well I agree the public could help let's not forget the Boston Marathon witch hunt. Maybe we don't let reddit get their hands on that footage.
- Didn't Republicans say these rioters were Black Lives Matter people or government actors? Which pile of bullshit does little johnson want us to consume?
  
  All of it.

They're traitors tho. Why are you defending traitors hmmmmm???
- Also I thought the troublemakers were Antifa? Why are they protecting Antifa?
- “But they’re PATRIOTS and SO AM I!!” -Johnson, maybe, who hasn’t learned to crack a dictionary
  
  Then all patriots are traitors

It's either foolish or malicious to deliberately misrepresent the actions or motivations of these ass-hats just because they're ass-hats.
The DOJ already has unredacted footage and the blurring of faces is meant to avoid retaliation by "non-governmental actors", i.e. vigilantes, not to save anyone from arrest.
- I disagree. These people broke the law in a serious way. There is no "light treason" when it comes to attempting to obstruct the public vote. We all should know who they are.
  
  There have already been well over 1,000 arrests, a few hundred sentenced, etc. (https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases) and you can look up names/details of those who've gone through due process. That's the system at work, like it or not. I don't think it's up to you or me to convict, or harass, or whatever else. You can maybe ID folks whose images are posted by the FBI requesting information from the public. I just hate to see crappy headlines and social media posts distorting what's happening when it seems pretty simple to verify through non-extreme media outlets.
  I say this all with respect.
  I hope everyone who gleefully rampaged around the capital gets what is legitimately coming to them.
- Is this the part where we start up the rumours again that Mike Johnson is anti-MAGA by trying to protect the FBI from Trump vigilantes by only blurring out the faces of informants, and just seeing what happens? Chaos for the sake of chaos?
  
  I like this plan. Sign me up.
  
  Or blurring the faces of antifa?
- Some of the IDs and arrest happened because people identified the person and reported them. And that's just from media footages.
- The guy literally said it was to stop the DOJ from charging them. It's in the quote in the original post.
  Why would a self-proclaimed patriot be against charging literal insurrectionists?
  
  Yeah, my fault. I read about this in an Axios article that I linked above. That only makes the rep's comment more absurd when, again, we know the DOJ has the unedited footage, which is also acknowledged in the Rolling Stone article.
- Nothing to hide, nothing to fear, right?
  Sometimes hypocrisy is reason enough, but deterrence is good too
  
  "I've got nothing to hide." and other misunderstandings of privacy.
  Wrong, I think. The ol' nothing to hide line is one we can only be comfortable with when it's not being wielded against us.
- you mean the faces that are already posted by the FBI for everyone to see ?
  
  We should immediately edit the footage with AI to "unblur" the faces with the correct suspects. Then, tag Johnson in every repaired clip we post online.
- Unblur their faces; I just want to talk
- I think everyone involved in Jan 6 should be in jail, but after reading your comment I think blurring faces makes sense. Remember when Reddit caught the Boston bomber?
  
  Yes, although someone else here pointed out to me that the Speaker actually did say he wanted faces blurred to protect those folks from DOJ, which is absurd 1) because I agree that those clowns need to face consequences, and 2) it makes no sense given that DOJ already has the raw footage.
  Still, I'd hate to encourage reddit-style vigilantes even if that seems at odds with the fact that the FBI posts images explicitly looking for help in identifying certain suspects.
  
  I still use "We did it reddit" at least once a week, in response to someone fucking something up
- I think he means so that anyone in John Q Public can't recognize any neighbors or coworkers in the vids and report them to DOJ. So, still obstruction.
  
  Well, no, I don't think that's obstruction. He's not hiding them from DOJ, since they already have the footage. Choosing to not publicize faces for John Q Public won't get in the way of their prosecutions.
  FBI has their list of most wanted including pictures.
  So this is perhaps not helpful at worst, and avoiding vigilante justice at best, is what I'm thinking.

Which is it? A "peaceful protest by MAGA infiltratded by A Deep State/BLM/Antifa instigating a sedicious Riot" or "Need to blur faces to protect from the non-government retaliation". If it's the former, surely the GOP would not desire protection of the latter.
Or should I just now start saying that the GOP led Congress is protecting Antifa/Deep State/BLM traitors? I'mma run with that one....
- GOP double think is nothing new. Guns can't be regulated or considered dangerous, but books must be banned.
  
  Body autonomy. But to avoid vaccines, not so woman can have abortions.
- This is a not so rare self own by the right.
- Stop wasting time and energy pointing out conservative hypocrisy.
  They know. They don't care. In fact, I suspect they do it on purpose to anger and frustrate people.

I'm relatively new to this country, has it been always a joke like this? Politics are fucking hilarious here. Wtf is going on?
- Where are you from? From what I gather (not American) after Obama won the right went ape shit.
  
  Also not American, and from what I gathered I think Nixon and the Bushes also contributed a lot to the enshitification of the USA.
  
  It started farther back with Reagan.
  
  It wasnt Obama. It was Social Media Filterbubbles.
  
  Basically, yeah.
- no definitely not
- we're just getting ready to fight the Civil War all over again
  
  I hope we learned from the first one and be harsher on the losers. I think it was Sumner or Stevens that wanted land redistribution to freed slaves and military rule and treating the south as conquered territory.
  
  Civil War II
- Well we don’t want the criminals to be charged, and have problems! Jeez!
- Just wait. It'll stop being funny soon enough.
  
  "hilarious" in a very very sad and scary sense is what I meant. It's totally fucked up. Both parties are busy fighting each other over power and their citizens are barely making it. Healthcare system is an absolute disaster. Education system is shit. Infrastructure is becoming 3rd world level. Literally the country is falling apart.
- I've been here for 17 years, politics has pretty much always been a shit show.
  
  I've been here 13, and just tried to get into politics a couple of years ago, and man do I hate it and find it very messy. Im now questioning my decision to get involved. I was a much happier person before.
- Politics in the US has been a joke ever since the Eisenhower administration.

Then arrest the entire GOP.

Isn't it obstruction of justice to hide evidence of crimes being committed?
- And isn't this pretty explicitly evidence tampering?
  
  Only if used in court.
- Not when a conservative does it.

So, he's literally saying that it was a criminal act?

What a complete fucking buffoon. Where’s the transparency in blurring the guilty parties?
- He's a Christofascist. Every fucking word out of his mouth is self-serving bullshit as a matter of course and should be disregarded as having been said in bad faith.
  
  I don't know, he straight up said that one of the reasons to blur was to stop the DOJ from charging more people. I think I believe him.
  What a patriot.

Faces have been blurred to protect the guilty.

Johnson says the J6 committee was a partisan action and that the Republicans on the committee were following some other agenda. Therefore, the Republican party is a criminal conspiracy to commit treason against the United States.

"We want to conceal evidence of a crime"

I’m no legal expert but could this be construed as aiding and abetting criminals?

Isn’t this giving succor to an enemy?
- Well, no, but it’s giving aid.
  Succor, iirc, is food.
  
  Had to check, and according to this (https://www.thefreedictionary.com/succor) it’s not limited to food. Thanks for making me look.
- Gotta impeach all these comforters of the insurrectionists.

the same ones who ran like little girls while the traitors took a shit on the entire history of our Republic.. are those the Republicans who are blurring the faces of their criminal help? i hope they catch you assholes next time..

Wait, wouldn't any tapes the congress have also already be in the hands of the FBI/DOJ? If not, where are the Republicans getting the videos from?
- The DOJ definitely has the raw footage already. This is equal parts publicity stunt and trying to keep internet sleuths from getting too involved.
  
  That coming from the same party that supports a guy who is famous for doxing people he wants to see in trouble.
  Assholes.
  
  and trying to keep internet sleuths from getting too involved.
  That's a great point I hadn't even thought of that.

Maybe he hasn't found his face yet? , or all of his donors?

I think we already drew our own conclusions the day it happened. Our conclusions became firmer and firmer as the months carried on, when we learned that select Republicans actually cheered on for the Jan 6th riot to happen because they wanted the rioters to overrun their political opponents.
And blurring the faces really won't do much because we've had many clips to look at, we've had many tips, leads and everything about that riot to where we have a good idea as to who was there. Doesn't help that the idiots who participated are some of the loudest mouths, so they've drawn their own attention.

Horrifying. Anti-American. Should tell you everything you need to know about voting republican, at this time in history

Republicans are just telling their base they’re doing this so that the base feels like they’re owning the libs.
The cops have already seen this shit. Where the fuck do they think capital camera footage goes? MTG’s Ring account?

Oh, they'll probably just say it's because of defamation risk-
Johnson added that the party is going “through a methodical process of releasing them as quickly as we can” and that they “have to blur some of the faces of the persons who participated in the events of that day because we don’t want them to be retaliated against, and to be charged by the DOJ and to have other, you know, concerns and problems.”
Oh, right, sorry. Forgot this is the timeline where Republicans take it as a point of pride that their motive is to be fascists. Carry on.

I mean.. The other part about internet sleuths is that it can help get these insurrectionists fired from their jobs.
Unmasking someone (showing that they were at Jan 6) is different from doxxing them (their private deets).
They should absolutely face consequences from multiple levels of society: legally, at work, online...
These aren't fine people to protect and encourage, they're people who should be embarrassed

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