1y ago

I bet the rest of the world has better paper

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Well yes, the rest of the world does have better paper. 21×29.7, the only ratio to conserve itself when halving the sheet
- Wait, is that true? Is there something special about that ratio in particular that lets it conserve ratio when dividing?
  
  Yes it's true. It's the square root of 2, which is why it works.
  
  Here you go, proof at ~2 min in.
  Edit: for those who don't want to use YouTube anymore. If a is the long side and b is the short side of a rectangle. Halving the rectangle will make the long side b and the short side 1/2 a. If the ratio is preserved when halving, we get:
  a/b=b/(1/2 a)
  a^2=2b^2
  a^2/b^2=2
  a/b=sqrt(2)
  
  Here's a fun CGP Grey video on the matter: https://youtu.be/pUF5esTscZI?si=9czdx4u8jWruZoui
  
  Yes, this particular ratio allows the fact that you can fold a A3 paper in two and get two A4 sheet
  
  Besides the Grey video heres an oldie but goodie Numberphile video about it
  
  It's called the Golden Ratio and has a lot of neat properties! Da Vinci and other nerds love(d) using it in art.
- I didn't know there are part of the world which doesn't put A4 in their printers
- Relation 1 to SQR 2, from A0 of 1m2 to A5 letter format (A4, A5 most used in the EU), every time the half of the next bigger format. Easy to remember.
  https://www.papersizes.org/a-paper-sizes.htm

For anyone else wondering, this is a X11 vs Wayland meme - i.e. desktop window managers. Yeah.
- Neither of them are window managers, they are windowing systems. A window manager is the part that actually lets you move around windows and draws the borders and stuff, like kwin, mutter, xfwm, i3, etc
  
  As I typed my comment, I realised someone would correct me with hyperspecific linux terminology. But I support your correction good sir.
  
  Yeah? Well you too, Nerd!
- Y'all arguing about window managers and I'm just trying to connect my shit-ass bt headset to my PC.
- does Wayland even have a built in DWM? Because both are session manager.
  
  No, Wayland is just a protocol, and the things that implement it are compositors, not WMs
  Also, there's no such thing as a DWM, except for the WM called dwm
- X11 vs Wayland meme - i.e. desktop window managers
  eye twitch

Yes, we do have metric paper. A4 vs. US letter.

Legacy dependancies
- depen dancies
  dancies - little dances :]

- Mir for me

Stupid Nvidia Ink Cartridges...

Well the tearing fixes would definitely help.
- Option "TearFree" "true" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/your.conf but some compositors do that already.

for fuck sake shut up LMAO

Shouldn't it be 8.5XFree86 in the land of freedom™?

HDR for Wayland when?
- Early Febuary 2024 if all goes well.

@Klaymore
Two Questions:
Why is it needed to set up resolutions If you work with screens in these Modern days. There should only be zooming?
I have two screens one HD and one 4K. Why could I not set both screens as same physical high or same width?

I'm starting to think Wayland is the systemd of desktop graphic environments. Might be amazing eventually, but pushed onto the community too soon by opinionated devs who have fallen victim to the second-system effect.
Mod me down, don't care.
Edit: Woohoo, into the ground! Mod me down further, and I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine :p
I don't troll often, but when I do.. it's about Wayland and systemd. Nyah nyah.
Honestly if Wayland will work 100% on my next setup and apps appear as expected, I won't give a damn what system I'm using.
- I actually quite like Wayland. I have not had a problem. Except with the discord application cause they are too lazy to fix their screen recording bug
  
  :) I'll try it again, promise. I just didn't have a good experience around two years ago. I do hear it's much better now.
  I'll confess I've avoided systemd to this day however. Devuan/Funtoo are fine, and I don't miss any of the supposed improvements systemd brings. So I'll probably be rocking Wayland/open-rc or Wayland/sysv-init until I drop dead.
- It was pushed way too soon. It's just not too soon anymore, that's why everybody is moving now.
  
  I sincerely hope it turns out to be the case. I don't pretend I haven't torn out my hair on multiple occasions fighting with xorg.conf.. that's for sure.
  Just being provocative for the lulz on a memepost, mostly :)
- Wayland is the complete oposite of that crap.
- I like both Wayland and systemd
  Name one init system that boots as fast as systemd on a modern distro with many services. Then name a display server that's actually easy to maintain and to develop client applications for
  The current issues with Wayland are due to it being new, X11 fanboys not wanting to explore the idea of contributing to Wayland, and client applications that are poorly designed
  
  X11 fanboys not wanting to explore the idea of contributing to Wayland,
  People have tried that, those projects are all dead for 3-5 years now because Wayland's design turned out to be so much more flawed than originally expected with its "Oh, you know all that stuff the X server used to do, you now have to do all of that yourself in your compositor even though you don't care about any of it and there is no benefit from having multiple implementations" approach.

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