Why is Lemmygrad hated in the wider space of Lemmy?

This has the energy of a white gay man in a marriage pointing at a trans polycule and calling them homophobic because they said he had a bad take about how bourgeois privileges are more important than positive rights for queer homeless people.

White gay men wielding their gayness as a cudgel against people who are queerer and more marginalized then them sure is a gross thing to see.

True, but leninists are not leftist in any significant sense either. They are more authoritarian/ totalitarian than they are left or right.

Wild how much footage is coming out of Gaza right now showing an actual ongoing genocide, yet Zionists and their water-carriers will harp on and on about how Israel is merely defending itself.

Nothing of the sort from Xinjiang. At all.

I'd like to see ONE verifiable image or video depicting this supposed Uyghur genocide we're denying. ONE. Apparently it's one of the worst human atrocities occuring right now. One of the worst in HISTORY.

So... show me a single picture. Fetish porn doesn't count. Where are the dead bodies? Where are these supposed mass graves?

Love to break it to ya, they don't fucking exist and they never did. You've been lied to.

their users deny genocides

If you are referring to the Xinjiang issue, then it just reaffirms what @davel@lemmy.ml just said:

it’s largely because the Anglosphere has been indoctrinated against real, actual socialism their entire lives

Because the "Uyghur genocide" in Xinjiang is another example of propaganda. Or do you really think the West cares about Muslims and want to protect their "freedom"?

call everyone that has a less extreme left opinion of politics Nazis

I don't see anyone in Lemmygrad calling other people "Nazis" because they disagree with someone in a discussion. I usually see them criticizing others as "liberals." This is either a misrepresentation of leftists in general, very common among conservatives, or you are frequently being called a Nazi. I don't know, maybe that's on you? 🤔

end up being so “anti-racism” that they’re racists themselves and take all critics as personal attacks

That's so specific you should give at least one example of this. We have very strict moderation against any bigotry, so I challenge you to link any "racist" attitude or comment you have seen in Lemmygrad. I will give you 24 hours, and if you don't reply with an example, I will edit this comment saying you chickened out.

EDIT: They chickened out, as expected.

end up being so “anti-racism” that they’re racists themselves

lmao shut up

Can you point to genocide denial before you make sweeping accusations?

end up being so “anti-racism” that they’re racists themselves

anyone complaining about "reverse racism" or "anti white racism" is a complete joke. like boo fucking hoo, someone called you a cracker on the internet, get over it.

Extremely accurate

I literally netted a 2 week sitewide-ban on one of my alts in this thread for a softer worded take than this

Holy shit you got them to brigade your comment. They might as well be bots, I think Chat GPT's "intelligence" outpaces them.

The “Uyghur genocide” is bullshit Atlanticist propaganda, and English-language Wikipedia is basically NATOpedia in its slant on the topic, so yes we will deny it. It’s a product of the new Cold War propaganda campaign against China.

That's a liberal with no framework. No one denies genocides (pro-tip just because the western media says it's a genocide doesn't make it a genocide.) Being so anti-racist you are the real racist is the Liberal Democratic party who elected a hard-core segregationist as president, not a Marxist Leninist. No one except people like you give a fuck about personal attacks. lol.

British. Immediately discarded.

That's not a defense, per se; that's them telling you you are no longer worth the dialogue. You crackers aren't worth debating.

Its a country founded on genocide that deported as many communists as they could in the 50s then killed and arrested the rest that remained.

Lets not forget the active genocides they carried out in vietnam or the middle east either, or the concentration camp they have open on cuba.

Indeed, liberalism is just a precursor of fascism https://orgrad.wordpress.com/articles/liberalism-the-two-faced-tyranny-of-wealth/

they're not using liberal in the american sense of liberal meaning gay blue haired woman with pronouns and vegan lattes that conservatives get mad at (in general theres a lot of queer vegan women with pronouns and colourful hair on hexbear); they're defining liberal in the marxist sense in that its people who support capitalism but arent currently fascists, so this includes conservatives, neoliberals, social democrats, and all sorts in it. Their comment seems to be applying more specifically to the ideologically committed liberals as opposed to mostly apolitical people who just say, "oh yeah i guess i;ll vote democrat this time" once every 4 years and have that be the extent of their politcal consciousness

Liberalism

Some more resources:

On Liberalism

• Why do communists dislike liberals?, 2
• What about free speech?
  • How do communists feel about free speech? Are they okay with suppression of free speech in places like China?
  • What does free speech really mean?
  • What are the different types of free speech?
• Why do leftists think that FDR co-opted the left to "save" capitalism?
• What's wrong with democrats ( insert moderate party here ) ?
  • Why not vote for the lesser of two evils (Lesser-evilism)?
  • Can't we change the democrats from within?
  • What about "moderates" like Jimmy Carter? Can't we push them to change?
  • Can't we use voting to solve our problem? Is violence really necessary? What about Martin Luther King Jr. and Gandhi? audiobook
• Malcolm X on liberals.

Did they now?

Nah, you're wannabes who will never hold enough capital to count, which is why we slag you when you dig in your heels in the first place. There's nothing more simultaneously sad or funny than 'temporarily embarrassed' capitalists with no capital; especially when you haven't even bothered scrubbing the Oxford polish off your lips before fixing them to talk to us. You are footsoldiers of chauvinist racism, colonial genocide, and climate apocalypse, and you will be the death of all of us.

With all that in mind, what makes you think you or yours are owed any respectful dialogue?

I own two shoe factories and a cotton farm, you?

You must've done something to court those allegations. What'd you say? What'd you do? Who'd you align with geopolitically? I bet we'll find an answer in at least one of those three.

Yeah, I only joined shitjust works because that's where the cdda Lemmy is and that's the first thing I used it for, didn't even know people think it's a political instance. Though I guess with the hexbears and lemmygrads everything's political somehow. That's why I generally avoid dealing with them anyway.

"I'm as left as they come but I'm still going to throat the entire State Department patent leather shoe talm bout 'authoritarians' like that's anything more than another white-folk-slur for brown leaders who deny them" you are a fucking joke

What's a leftist stance you take?

Not really.

In most communities you can at least entice some robust discussion, hexbear just seems sp aggressively intolerant of alternative views.

It's a question of degree.

I think there was a culture shock when federation first hit. We had a ton of 'engagement' from people who were using ableist, racist, and transphobic slurs, which brought out strong reactions from our community because we believe its important to shut that stuff down on solidarity with our comrades. And as things got heated I think our willingness to believe people wanted good faith debate eroded.

We do love a good dunking though, and I think overall the community has a lower threshold for going full pig poop balls on people than I would prefer.

Valid criticisms tbh (I even could say the same as a day 0 account lol)

Moderation isn't going to "improve" because they generally are fine with everyone being goofballs, so I wouldn't expect that.

Some people have the cascade of shitposting and useless emojis coming with their crappy views, but I don't think our instance is great at propaganda or ROE, which is unfortunate. Would love to see what we could do with a little discipline.

Also the emojis on every other instance and all mobile apps look more obnoxious because they don't downscale to their intended resolution.

so many unhelpful replies that are just a tiny animated image and nothing else

Here on kbin I don't even see that, just text links with names like "pig poop balls".

How did you manage to block the instance individually? I thought that feature wasn't released yet...?

Not to mention that before federating, hexbear always had a soft aura of antisemitism floating around it. They've cleared house of it since but I remember wondering why they were so disproportionally vitriolic about Trotsky until I learned he was Jewish, then it all started to click.

Honestly I wouldn't even be remotely surprised if I found out in a couple decades that website was run as controlled opposition. Feels like everything there is designed to either placate or turn people away from communism rather than push them towards understanding it. Compare it to Lemmygrad where they'll reach a hand out to help reactionaries be less reactionary but on hexbear they just post a picture of a pig shitting on its balls and hurl harassing comments their way as if that's somehow going to make them any less anticommunist. (and as a fine bonus, all those comments boosts their reactionary bullshit to the top of the federation for everyone to see)

I don't think you even know what "totalitarianism" is. You know why? Because that term doesn't mean anything. It was popularized by Hannah Arendt, an academic author indirectly associated with the CIA (as thoroughly discussed by Frances Stonor Saunders in her book The Cultural Cold War). The term was used in the context of the Cold War to promote the idea that the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were the same thing or very similar. It served the interests of the US and Western European countries.

Now to call our userbase racist, I would expect at least further explanation. We have very strict moderation, and racist garbage is severely dealt with. So if you seen someone being racist in Lemmygrad, please let me know. I'm an admin there, and we could quickly resolve this. If you haven't, then you should quietly think with yourself why you are lying to others here. You hate us based on a lie?

Michael Parenti: Left anti-communism: The Unkindest Cut

You're on itjustworks, you're not a leftist, you're a social fascist.

If this is your vibe normally I wouldn't want to engage and would just post a troll image as well, it's rancid.

Exhibit #1 why Hexbear/Lemmygrad are unpopular: this guy

I am perhaps strange, it's true.

It's my habit to sometimes build wildly improbable things, just to push myself and see if I can do it -- the world is filled with too many boring and lifeless inventions. Often clients want me to build very boring things -- e.g. they must stoop, who gather gold. So I dedicate some time to building absurd things too, in which I hope strangers find entertainment.

There's a detailed description on my home instance, along with other stuff.

The short version is it uses a pair of BJT transistors to produce and amplify diode breakdown noise. That's amplified to TTL levels by some hex inverters. Then an 8-bit microcontroller passes it through a Von Neumann whitewashing algorithm (clock-cycle balanced in assembly language) to produce unbiased bits, which it accumulates into bytes. It's not a 'safe' way to use transistors and they will fail one day, but it will be fine for quite some time still.

Then an ESP32 samples the bytes from the 8-bit MCU. It connects to Wi-Fi and pushes it to the cloud over MQTT. A server listens for the random bytes, and uses them with the traditional I-Ching algorithm (yarrow-stick probabilities). Coding the yarrow-stick probabilities into an algorithm was a pain compared to the newer method that uses coin tosses :D

Also I had to convert the I-Ching to JSON, so I could programmatically pull the correct divination from it. The whole thing is gloriously absurd.

I have build a few particle detectors so I can use quantum-tunneling to produce the entropy instead (so an upgrade from a hardware RNG to a quantum RNG), but the radiation sources I have access to are a bit too weak to generate sufficient entropy.

I can't imagine any of this has any practical application, unless you happen to be a time traveler. In that case have work to do, meet me last week and we'll talk about it :P

Oh incidentally if the bot is down, let me know and I'll gently beat it into submission so it works again.

Well at least now I got a taste of lemmygrad, lol

I concur about .ml. It's been eye opening being on the receiving end of a homophobic rant by a moderator of their world news community implying I'm not queer enough. It wouldn't surprise me that they're racist, too. Bigots tend to subscribe to more than one strain of bigotry.

I know it shouldn't matter what people like that think, but I'd be lying if I said I'm not disappointed and dismayed. I've survived so many things and had a long hard road to self-acceptance. It's disgusting to be invalidated by someone who likely has more than I've ever had.

Exactly, losers hate winners.

It was literally created to be reddit without the capitalism. You didn't think what the implications of that meant?

Either that guy's full of shit or he's ban evading on a sockpuppet; 'cause that username turns up zilch in the modlog

Nah that's about it. The majority of active users are disingenuous in any real way to anyone outside of thier toxic insider joke club. The whole "my personality is based on this political view" is a tiresome trope, regardless of what that view they actually have IRL.

The modlog is public. You can see exactly what comment led to the ban if you search for it.

Please don't speak of Marxism without understanding it

It's been awhile since I did the blocking. I just remember being annoyed.

I've seen the effort, seen the results. Thank you, no thank you.

jesus fucking christ i just had a full-body irc channel flashback thanks to that quote's formatting lmao

I am a Communist