1y ago

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Eat farts.
- Aww thanks dude, appreciate it !
  
  ❤️
- Who do you think I am, Chuck Berry?
  
  No, you’re Assman. Own it.

This is the stupidest fucking thing I've seen all day, and it's been a long day.
- Well you're entitled to your option ... but it's a dumb one and you should feel bad about having it. Also, I'm going to needless drag unrelated politics into this.
  
  Something something fuck cars.
  
  You weren't replying to my comment, which is nowhere near this chain of comments, but I think you were targeting me. Your satire is too close to being serious. I declare that you're an idiot. Fight me now.
- Thanks for helping this place feel more like home

Can't tell you how strongly I disagree. It feels like the first people on Lemmy are the most insufferable know-it-all and holier-than-thou types from Reddit. Say anything about Microsoft or Windows? Here's 15 commenters telling you how much better they are for having Linux, and 2 commenters on topic, only to be called inferior by the Linux users. Same for Photoshop, same for social media, same for any paid software.
And everyone who has an opinion must insult anyone who disagrees like it's political Twitter, only by people who think they're smarter cause they were never on Twitter.
Lemmy is so toxic it's delaying its development. People lurk cause there are too many assholes talking over everyone else.
The only thing that's better is there are less of those "um ahcktually", pedant types. If you say "everyone", people mostly understand you don't literally mean "everyone."
- You must be a car driving capitalist tankie to be hatting on this place.
  jk, I definitely agree. This place is way more radicalized than Reddit, or at least it isn't nearly as diluted by bots so it seems more prominent.. Some dope people around here but I'm definitely losing hope that this place will grow into a cool place.
  It's all the same topic posts and the same hateful comments, but you can't even find small active communities to get away from it.
  
  I like risa on startrek.webaite, for one. you can def find cool communities.
- Good to see your input and how many people agree with it. I kinda agree, I am one of those jerks that will pray for open source alternatives, lmao, not so for paid or social media. Still being part of majority, I agree with you. I kinda miss the christian memes from reddit, it used to take the bible and interpret in some way, not as it was written.
  As somebody said, lemmy have instances. I don't think we are in the need to make more, but idk about that and it's just an opinion. I think the next step is creating communities that a lot of people miss from reddit but feel they wouldn't be welcomed due to existing communities and the current mindset in Lemmy instances.
  Thanks for the comment and saying what a lot of us have been wanting to say.
- I think the instance really matters. My ‘all’ feed is full of toxic assholes but my subs are mostly rad folks.
  
  Totally agree. I stopped seeing toxic people when I left Lemmy.World. idk why that is. It's not like Lemmy.world is a terrible place or anything.
- Exactly. I don't really like it here
  
  Then why are you here? 🤣
- I left lemmy a few weeks ago for this reason and I come back today to see what's up and it's exactly as you described. We aren't the only ones either
- The problem is not a technology one, and creating a copy of the thing you hate isn't going to get different results.
  I never expected it to be better than reddit, actually I expected it to make things much worse through increased isolation of mobs. It does.
  Only thing an individual can do is be the change they want to see and be nice to people, and resist the urge to "other" everyone they interact with.
  That said.. if this is OPs lived experience we should be happy for them. They're having a positive experience that we all want.
- When I left Lemmy.World I stopped seeing toxic behavior on the regular. I am not sure why this is. I am following all the same communities I was before, so it's not like I left any toxic communities. Even the hexbear people seem mostly civil now. It's like all the crazy people left.
  Maybe you just need to find an instance that suits you?
- Say anything about Microsoft or Windows? Here’s 15 commenters telling you how much better they are for having Linux,
  Eh. That's like the repeat of "Reddit is an anti-American circlejerk": No, it isn't. Never was. It was simply the place where many Americans first learned that people who live beyond the brim of their burgers actually exist, and have opinions.
  You're on a FLOSS platform. Don't be surprised if fanboying for an aggressively monopolistic multinational with inferior technology, held up by duct tape and bribes to system integrators, doesn't make you friends.
  
  Uhh yeah no. I was on reddit for over a decade and the anti-american circle jerk (that is alive and kicking on lrmmy, btw) became much worse over the last few years.
  Lemmy loves to pretend it's culturally superior to reddit, but now we've just concentrated the elitists and political extremists into a smaller pool of users.
  
  I agree with the sentiment that we are on a FLOSS platform, so most people are going to prefer Linux.
  But the rest of that comment is silly.
  Saying anything about Windows/Max doesn't mean the commenter is fanboying.
  Also, are you saying you dont believe social media was manipulated to interfere with American politics?
  And the last one really cracks me up about making friends. "Aggressively fanboying" Windows or Mac doesn't make you friends, but fanboying Linux does? You and I are definitely in different areas of CS then ha!
  I think "fanboying" in general is the actual issue

Go choke on a bag of cocks and die.

Except on news and world news that for me are exactly the same.
- I think reading the news all the time just makes people angry.
  
  Fucking nailed it.
- The rules are simple:
  Don’t be a communist
  Don’t be not a communist
  If you have a car, do not talk about it
  If you follow those easy steps you should be fine
  
  Don't not hate Capitalism, even as a joke.
  Don't post anything a child can't understand.
  
  The car thing is insane, even when you explain that you live in as regional area with limited options AND that I can drive to work in 20mins vs 60mins on public transport, you still get yelled at.
  
  You forgot "Don't mention you use Windows" and "Don't say you don't especially bother about privacy"
  
  Don't ever dare speak of veganism ever or you'll be faced with a bunch of "muh bacon"-comments
  
  Does anyone else drive a Tesla?
- Instead of a random asshole from /r/conservative, it’s a random asshole from hexbear.net.
- It's no different than reddit.
  Small community: friendly and welcoming
  Large community: shitty teenagers
- It's way worse
- Depends on the instance. Lemmy world has gotten pretty bad, but Beehaw for instance (no pun intended) remains great.
  
  Idk what to say in Beehaw form but I heard they hate communists, maybe because of lemmingrad, I totally understand the position but for me is no go.
- Oh, you haven't been to a socialist community yet? I won't ruin the surprise...

[Mean insult]
- [retort]
  
  [Derailing off topic remark]
  
  Wow, hard r and everything
  
  [this]

You kinda need other commenters for that to happen...
- You have a point
- my experience: make a comment, wait a day is this thing even on??

Really? I just kind of come here when I really want to feel bad about myself. This community is twice as toxic as reddit if you're not part of the group think.
- If you like Windows, automobiles, and guns you're in for a world of hatred here
  
  And if you're center-right probably. Lemmy seems to be on the masses more left wing (which I am too, sorry dumb human brain has to share it's opinion)
  
  I just think they're good for ventilation, what's wrong with them?
  /s
  
  i like two out of three of those things and nobody hates me yet.
- I disagree. Except for rare incidents people who heavily disagreed with me at least made arguments as to why and most of the times these arguments were related to the arguments i made.
- I haven't found that to be the case, but maybe my groupthink is stronger than I thought.
  I will admit I creeped your comments a bit, but you seem pretty progressive to be. What sort of toxic reactions are you talking about?
  
  My last comment got downvoted for saying I have never watched Fox news 🤷🏾.
  
  Just don't say centrist too loudly and you'll be ok I guess.
  I'm left leaning center these days.

I hope the devil uses your backbone as a ladder to pick apples in the garden of hell
- That's just phenomenal.

Hey man.. fuck you.

It's the opposite for me, cuz it seems most of the serious communities are already circlejerks lol
- Linux, tankies and moaning about reddit. That's it.
  
  It's worse than that sadly lol
  
  I have seen the word Tankies a ton since I joined Lemmy, but it seems like people use it for almost anybody that is political at all, lol. Is the definition of it that google gives accurate?
  
  Yup

Which communities did you subscribe?
Because my experience is a bit different, people here seem way more polarized with their opinion (which is always right) and angry at random stuff.
I think I never saw so many "landlords haters" in social media like in Lemmy...
- Who would love landlords though?
  
  People who love being housed and love capitalism, probably.
- Is there anyone who likes landlords? Why would they?
  
  I don't like them, but I'm far from being a "anti-landlord activist" 😂
- there is a lot of anger
- yeah me too

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little removed? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
- I've read this sooo many times, but for some reason "gorilla warfare" just fucking gets me every time, lmao
  
  That's probably why this one is so popular
  
  Lol gorilla warfare, planet of the apes. But I think you meant guerrilla warfare copypasta.
- So that's were the 800 billions of military budget went!
- You are fucking dead, kiddo, as a copypasta we will forever upvote you.
- Well. This beats the response I was gonna write. I might just copy this for regular use though.

- Isnt that just pointing it back to you tho?

Wow, this post is absolute trash. You seriously took the time out of your day to create such an absolute fucking trainwreck of a post. I'm unbelievably disappointed and I don't think I am going to be able to sleep at night knowing that such a horrifyingly godawful post exists on this site. My mental health has taken a hit and I may never recover from seeing this post. OP, this is all your fault. If you had just stopped for one second and thought about the ramifications of this crime against humanity, maybe you could have avoided traumatizing thousands of people. But you didn't. I hope you're proud of what you've done, shame on you.
- You are really good at giving a bollocking

dumb meme i hate you

idrc abt the negativity but I much prefer the low amount of bots on here compared to Reddit
- I ALSO VERY MUCH ENJOY THE ABSENCE OF NON-HUMAN ENTITIES ON LEMMY, AS I AM A HUMAN ENTITY MYSELF.
  
  So am I beep beep

Your oral hygiene is suboptimal.

Don’t worry, the political threads are just as vicious as ever.
- Worse, the people here are marginally smarter, so they know just enough to be wrong, verbosely.

From the POV of a Reddit veteran who had migrated from Digg prior to the v4 update that killed the site, it's absolutely shocking how much better the Lemmy (or at least Lemmy World) community is.
I also feel like I have a lot more freedom to speak my mind on Lemmy.
My problem with Reddit is that I have had to self-censor my comments to avoid getting them automatically purged by bots. It's like I cannot even use words/phrases like 'snowflake', 'cuck', 'incel', 'Trump', 'soy', and many others in a comment, because some fragile power mod decided to effectively shadowban those words. Context doesn't even matter.
Reddit mods are the kind of people who look up to the dystopian ideals George Orwell presented in 1984 and think that banning an entire lexicon of words is a great idea to control people.
As for why I think Lemmy is better, my hypothesis is that everyone with a moral compass left Reddit out of disgust, and what remains is a sea of toxic assholes.
- They just censor your comments straight up around here, like removed being unutterable on lemmy.world
- That's a mindset, so it could easily migrate. The fact that Lemmy is decentralized means that instance admins can start flushing mods who decide that they're going to be dictators because their lives suck. Admins who allow toxic mods will find that users migrate to other instances.
  
  Your average Redditor is a toxic dick though who will dig up past comments and dox you just because they don't like your opinion.
- my reddit experience exactly.... 😕 although my first lemmy experience was getting insulted on hexbear, so it evens things out

I'm here from reddit. I've been a silent browser since reddit api changes because I stuck with sync, but it kept saying login failed no matter how many times I reset my password. It just worked somehow. Anyway glad I can finally comment
- Grats and welcome!
- Welcome to uh absolute hell where the worst of the worst of reddit congregate to
  
  Don't worry, I was mostly a lurker. I'm happier here

fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

You're not turtle enough for the Turtle Club.
- Hah, bet you're having back pain about now.
  
  ^Turtle! ^Turtle!

Naaa you get your share here. 4 chan trolls are ubiquitous

I can help?
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I'd disagree with that, Lemmy users fucking hate No Nut November

So far, I've encountered far more negativity on Lemmy than I did on reddit. Ymmv, but I feel like our smaller user base has concentrated the negativity.
- There’s a delicious degree of irony that you’ve been downvoted for giving an opinion
  
  Yeah fuck him
  
  But he went against the Lemmy circle jerk groupthink!
  Sacrifices must be made to the fediverse or we'll all be cursed for our disobedience.
  The energy has been thrown off here because of his transgressions.
  Quickly - someone say something about Arch Linux or about how capitalism sucks!!
  
  Ah, now it’s really feeling like Reddit.
- Having bounced back to reddit a couple of times, I haven’t had that experience. Talking here seems to lead to more thoughtful responses. Also some small minority on reddit love the unexplained downvotes of disapproval for perfectly well intentioned, polite posts, and there’s less of that on Lemmy.
  
  How fucking dare you. I'm going to remove the labels off your canned goods so you don't know what you're opening till you open it.
  
  As an example, I started c/52weeksofbaking (copied over from reddit). Its a place for amateur bakers to challenge themselves, try new things, and share their successes and failures. There's zero reason to downvote posts there. I stickied a request for people to not downvote in that community. It's currently sitting at 20 upvotes and 18 downvotes.
  We can make fun of people for caring about fake internet points, but if we want to get more people to use lemmy and create content, we need to create communities that feel welcoming.
- It was real flowery here for a couple weeks during the celebratory fuck Spez exodus when everyones third party reddit browsers died. But yeah, now it's a cesspool of negativity.
  
  Be generous with blocks, both people and communities. It makes a lot of difference.
- It may depend on your politics or maybe just where you hang out. I know that Beehaw gets a lot of shit for their pre-emptive defederation but it may be the nicest general online community I’ve encountered in a long time.

Fuck you
you magnificent bastard :)

I'll insult you in the comments if you want me to, you little removed.
- Y- yes daddy, please. soft moans
  
  Well now you've made me uncomfortable you fucking pervert.
  
  "Give me animal names"
  "Butterfly"
  "Evil animals"
  "Evil butterfly"

Yeah, no. Not true. I just dared to say that I despise a certain Tech Corp and people reacted "funnily".

I hope you stub your toe
- I hope you get a paper cut.
  
  I hope you have to sneeze every time you point.

I'm not 100% off Reddit, I still venture over there for my WarHammer faction updates. But holy shit, I dipped my toe outside that circle recently and it's a cesspool of anger.
- Oh so you think you've escaped huh
  
  Tbf, I did have a Lemmy user passionately argue Joe Rogan has never had a white supremacist on his show -- I pointed at Alex Jones and my notif bubble was red for a few days there 😅
- So it's the new Twitter?

To quote The Postal Dude: Fuck you.
- To quote Postal Dude: "Hi there, would you like to sign my petition?"
  (Holds petition titled "Make insulting new members on lemmy.world compulsory")

If you see @hexbear in the domain, you can post there and get shit on for days. Hope this helps.

Absolutely devastating for my Lemmy /c/InsultMe community

That is what changed me from a lurker in reddit to a poster in lemmy.

It took me weeks to get used to the fact that I didn’t have to expect aggressive negativity, and to realize that it was okay to give people the benefit of the doubt. I thought I knew how toxic and negative reddit had become, but I didn’t really get it until I compared it to Lemmy.
- The amount of anxiety I'd get just posting comments on reddit was insane. I'd spend a stupid amount of time rereading and editing my comment, and then there was still probably a 50% chance I'd discard it anyway. On Lemmy, after an adjustment period, it's much easier. I don't think I realized how hostile and toxic a lot of online spaces really are.
  
  It helps to think that if someone is a complete jerk to you when they respond to your comment, they're a jerk so you don't have to care what their opinion is. I know it's easier to say than do, but my general feeling is that if I don't respect someone, I don't really care what their opinion of me is. In fact, I'd be more bothered if they agreed with what I said.

Ur fat

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Fuck (Spez)

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Hey friend. We care about you. You are loved.

Someone report them for potential self harm

Fuck you! Welcome to Lemmy, we're fun here

You don’t really get insulted in every comments on Reddit though. Try 9gag
- ...9gag?

On a percentage basis I've gotten more downvotes and disagreements on Lemmy than I ever got on Reddit
- -27 comment downvotes, without counting this comment, and is crying for the downvotes.
  
  Thankfully on Lemmy it costs nothing to donate to your local farmer.
- Make your own fediverse, get on a server that doesn't have downvotes.
  I'm never down voted and welcome disagreeing comments so it's pretty good.

this is so true. I haven't yet had anyone be super toxic like reddit. I've has a kind of mean, but never toxic. it's a refreshing change that's for sure.

Hey @ElCanut@jlai.lu You're a great person!

Being on an instance that has defederated the communist duo helps a lot.
- But have you heard the good word of charmen mow/s
  
  Federation bubbles indeed make people get along better.

Me as a healer causing a team wipe in FFXIV because I pressed the wrong button multiple times and being met with positive reinforcement.

I call out news sources a lot. But posters are alright. Most of them don't repeat the mistake.

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