Totally logical and expected functionality

I’ve seen this exact problem on other laptops. Not saying it’s okay, but it’s not exactly an Apple only problem. It’s a “let’s cram everything into this single port and hope it doesn’t interfere with anything” problem.

I believe many of the display issues were fixed with the M2. And you don't need brew to install a window manager, although the fact that brew lets you treat it like a linux box is great.

The system configuration is more about what you're used to than anything else. I haven't used Windows in a couple of decades, and I absolutely hate it. Can't even think of going back. The modern version looks like a tablet OS trying to pass as a desktop OS. Give me a Windows machine and the first thing I'll do is wipe it clean and install Ubuntu. But I'm also sure Windows is great for you. So it's what we're used to. Nothing wrong with it.

It never produces heat. Until it does and my word does it. I've been getting the slack issues and display issues as well. Also found out today the provided calendar hasn't actually been sending off my invite responses to anyone and got called in for not letting people know which meetings I was attending.

I use Mac for work (post audio) and Gentoo for fun on an Intel machine.

MacOS does not do well if you dig in to it like it's a Linux box.

I'm forced to use a Mac for work as well and have the damn Slack bug. What's the solution!?

For your next laptop you should try the framework and laptop, theyre very cool

The absolutely number one thing that allowed me to actually use the thing though was Yabai+SKHD. Tiled windows and the full customization of hotkeys make this thing so much more usable and, frankly - surprisingly - it’s grown on me.

You can install Linux on Apple Silicon Macs. Check out Asahi Linux.

Does it bother you that you can’t grasp a simple feature like Mouse Keys?

https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/mac-help/mh27469/14.0/mac/14.0

Your rant is completely misguided but I thought I would at least point out something useful.

The vast majority of comments here complaining about Mac and macOS specifically seem to stem from really, really not understanding much about them. This comment is unfortunately not any different.

I’ve seen developers working for FAANGs unironically praise the M1 Macbooks as work machines.

The FAANG companies that fight tooth and nail to hire the best people who can basically work wherever they want because of their skill like Macs? Surely, they're the dumb ones.

I have one and the damn thing has an option to change the “modifier key” for the fucking mouse

Originally, and for quite a while (probably early 2000's) Macs shipped with a one button mouse, and there was no concept of a "right-click." Originally, they were pretty dogmatic that the OS should be simple enough that one button was enough. You shouldn't need to hide functionality in a context menu, it should be available through the standard UI. Eventually, that lost out, but they decided they wanted to make context menus (or other "right-click" actions) a power user feature, rather than a default. So the decided to make it make sense for all of the machines that had always shipped with one button mice, you could hold ctrl and then click an item and you'd get the context menu. For decades now, they support right click, but if you built up years of muscle memory around ctrl+clicking instead, you still can.

like press the meta key

You like the meta key? Probably better thank Apple. Apple has had a "meta" key basically forever, only it's been called "command." I'm old enough to remember when more manufacturers started to add their own meta keys. If you go grab an older keyboard, you'll probably find they also have a "context menu" button, which is basically a "right-click" and you almost def won't find one now.

you want to do basic window manager things

Lots of people in this thread seem to really, really like being able to window snap, which I kind of get but also generally disagree with. macOS (again, going back a thousand years) has a different philosophy when it comes to managing windows. On [MS] Windows, pretty much all software aims for full screen, and users def do the same. Window snapping now means you have a convenient way to see 2 whole things. If you really, really want window snapping similar to how MS does it, there are a hojillion ways to accomplish this with very simple app installs. macOS has instead tried to make it so that you can manage multiple apps/windows easily without full screen, going back to tiny, tiny screens.

But let's talk about "basic window manager things" for a sec. Windows has easily, and I mean easily had the worst window management generally for like 2 decades. Windows 10 and Windows 11 help catch up to things I switched off of Windows and to Linux for in like, 2004. Expose, or "Task View" as it's now called in Windows started in macOS, and was adopted in Linux in the mid 2000's. Not until Windows 10, and not even the first version, do we get that. Ditto for virtual desktops. In Windows, I can press alt-tab and switch between any open app. In macOS, I can press cmd+tab and switch between any open app, but I can also press cmd-` and switch between an app's windows. In Windows, I can minimize windows to the task bar just as I can in macOS. However, I can also just choose to hide all app windows, or hide all windows except the app I'm looking at. And on macOS, I can use hot corners (which Windows barely touches with its "show desktop" hotcorner, sort of) which I can configure however I want. I can throw my mouse in any corner of the screen and get more "basic window manager things" than exist on Windows.

Its keyboard is that weird, unresponsive, flat form factor that makes it a nightmare to actually use as a portable device

If you have one the bad butterfly keyboards, yes. If not, this is nonsense. All laptop keyboards are bad, mac versions (with the very large caveat that the butterfly keyboards were insanely stupid/bad) are generally better.

I get that it’s a relatively powerful computer for the ludicrous amount of battery life it gives you, but that’s purely because it’s an extremely optimized ARM based processor that’s only designed to work with this specific operating system.

How is this supposed to be a negative? If we zoom out a little, this comment might as well be "oh sure, you can get your fancy graphic effects when you use a, what did you call it? graphics processing unit?" And even then, this is still not really accurately understanding why Apple has absolutely dominated CPU in mobile, and then is crushing in the class of laptop/desktop processors it competes in.

But Apple is practically an antonym for FOSS at this point.

Aside from darwin, the kernel macOS runs on, Webkit, the browser engine that Chrome forked from, or passkeys, the thing that might replace passwords, you're still really wrong.

Beyond those complaints, it’s got good speakers and never produces any heat. Honestly, the only good things about the machines are those hardware elements: the speakers, battery life, and lack of heat.

How about screens? Trackpad? Physical material, etc?

I also have a Thinkpad X1 Carbon, which is physically a worse machine: it gets hot, has a fraction of the battery life, etc.

"I can get vastly less done, and it's going to be more uncomfortable the entire time."

I wonder if the people that really like the M1s like them because it’s the laptop equivalent of an iPhone.

Lots of misunderstanding here, but I'm already a phone book in.

really, they probably never would have added right clicks, but as more software adopted right click actions, especially cross platform stuff like Adobe software, they pretty much had to.
they've basically ceded the extreme high end. If you really want the most performant CPU and power\heat aren't a concern, it's not Apple.

you kinda answered your own question in this rant. once theres a comparable alternative a lot of people will naturally move to that. though a lot of people still will want a half bitten fruit on their device

That isn’t an iDevice specific issue. It’s how a ton of mobile devices handle charging of the battery for various reasons, including the obvious one of you being mid boot and losing power to the device.

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This is the way.

As wraithcoop suggested, you can install additional software like rectangle to do the job. But why is that necessary in 2023? Window snapping has existed forever on Linux DEs and Windows since Vista.

The point isnt about having a Foss solution, but that this is an absolute basic thing that the OS lacks.

Yeah, no, as a power user mac is actively fucking painful to work around. Anything beyond skin deep configurations require going through seven layers of shitty menus, and even then a lot of shit you have to with command line, and don’t even get me fuckin started on that trash.

How can a premium product have the worst goddamn command line in the industry? Jfc MSDOS is more goddamn useful.

My point is, if you want brain dead simple, works ever time, but only if you do it the exact specific way intended, go for Mac… but keep that bullshit off of an enterprise network.

If you want to do literally anything that’s technically involved and need your system to more or less work out of the box? Windows reigns supreme.

You want to make something work exactly the way you want, using whatever hardware you want, and have complete and total control over your functionality and information? Linux all the way.

The brain dead windows hate is stupid. It’s an adequate OS for what it was originally made to do- run information infrastructure for businesses. Don’t be removed.

They downvote you, but after spending time writing powershell scripts, I can confirm that I absolutely fucking loathe microsoft products now.

Well they have a (open source to point out) app called powertoys made directly for power users, I must say it's pretty great, and just the ability to have a launcher is making this a 8/10 app for me

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I have several laptops that use USB-C to HDMI cables to connect. They work fine and the port on the PC is much smaller.

Go into grub and set intel_idle.max_cstate=1 if you want it to be elegant. Had the same problem. AMD didn't implement proper sleep states. There's an open PR ranting about interconnect issues somewhere if I can find it.

That's amazing.

I'd be very interested in your theory.

I thought it had something to do with the distance to the server or ping timeout, but that is more of a guess.

I've not experienced that problem again despite working as a network engineer for 20 years

No

No pro and air models use the same chassis.

There was an old bug up through at least XP (maybe gone by SP3, but I don't remember) where there would be certain SSIDs or network names that incremented because of how networking was implemented. I'm doubtful it's the same thing, but you could try searching there for a start.

FBI birds.

Did I stutter?

Fascinating. Good to know...

Thanks for your input. I think there's some software bug causing this, the same hardware worked without issues for years and now, not all of us are affected (all devs are using the same laptop) Anyways, I won't waste too much time analyzing this, I'm doing mostly home office as a workaround and the ops guys are going to take a look next week.

I can, but it's a shared workplace, so I can't just leave it unplugged.

It's a shared workplace, so I can't just leave the ethernet unplugged.

And yes, it has DisplayPort and potentially HDMI, too. I do have an idea why it might work that way, but from a user perspective, it's still useless and annoying...

In this case, OP just had busted USB controllers. All USB-C ports are intended to be equivalent on MacBooks.

I guess MacBooks are easier to deploy

Unix based systems tend to be able to be hardened to a higher level than windows devices. Apple provides a lot of apis for preventing unsigned code from running, which can go a long way beyond a locked down bootloader.

It's less that they're intrinsically more secure, it's just that it's a bit easier for a determined admin to lock it way further down while also not irritating the user.

I seem to recall Chromebooks are even better, but you sacrifice a lot more.

And I use it everywhere I can.

You're talking about OS/2 Warp right? Or do you mean ChromeOS?

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Oh wait, I get it... you were talking about SunOS.

That's pretty much where I am too - I especially dislike the effective vendor lock in. I just want to be able to buy commodity hardware to solve problems if I encounter them.