Lazy people are just very efficient people

The Venn-diagram of lazy people and efficient people is not a circle, my friend. There is some overlap, but not entirely overlapping.

The trick is to be lazy enough to seek a better solution but not lazy enough to actually implement it.
- So if I implement it I'm just efficient and not lazy?

With external pressure to get something done and a full description of what needs to be done, lazy people will find a solution with the least possible amount of effort. That's why they often make good developers.

Problems arise when there is no immediate external pressure, or when the task isn't well-defined. In that case, lazy people will put it off until it becomes immediate (at which point the effort required may be much higher), or they will do the bare minimum to satisfy the requirements of the task according to the definition. If the definition of the task wasn't complete, the task won't be done completely.

Oh, this is me
That’s why they often make good developers.

Good developers don't just write easy-to-write code. They write code that is easy to maintain and efficient to run - and oftentimes that requires forethought, a willingness to rewrite when a misstep is made, and above all else the willingness to tinker/learn effectively.

Source: I am a terrible developer and a very lazy person, and I have had to maintain lots of poorly-written code (some of it my own).
I'm a problem solver, not a planner.

You’ve described my entire IT career.

'I choose a lazy person to do a hard job. Because a lazy person will find an easy way to do it.' - Bill Gates or something
Automate all the tasks!

This requires defining an additional separation between "lazy, but productive" and "lazy but NOT productive"

That also requires defining what you mean by productivity.
- Productivity = At least 3 shitposts per day on lemmy shitpost

Depends.

Lazy people who automate their own tasks so they do less work - efficient.

Lazy people who pass off work to other people, causing them to get snowed under no matter how efficient they are - garbage shitsacks.

Conserving resources has always been a survival strategy across every form of life since evolution began. Laziness is a refusal to waste resources on things not perceived to matter or make a difference.

The kicker is that if you start thinking about what “matters” you will soon find nothing actually really does except the things we choose. And it would be a shame to waste life never making any choices.

So here we are, called upon by the universe to come up with things that matter, even though we know that not one bit of any of it will endure. It’s enough to make you sit back down on the couch to think.

If I got things done, maybe. When I have to pay fees because I was too lazy to pay a bill in time, I don't see how that's efficient.

Is that laziness or forgetfulness? Like, did you actively decide not to pay your bill on time because you just couldn't be arsed to do so?
- Adhd, I always think I can just do it later and then suddenly it is too late.

Stupid and wrong. Lazy people who can continue to be lazy in a highly monitored, high productivity environment are very efficient. But lazy people can just be unproductive lazy ducks as well.

Humanity advances because of laziness.

The same can be said about math notations.

So what you're saying is... Math notations are lazy? 🤔

No, I am a lazy people and I know it is not.

I am exceedingly efficient then

I suppose it depends on just how lazy you mean... Like someone could go to work and accomplish what they're meant to be doing in the laziest way possible, versus being so lazy that they just call in sick and skip work altogether

Why not both? /s

Except for the lazy ones.

Thats like saying kevin is 300 lbs because he is efficient, not lazy.

He's efficiently increasing mass.

I'm so efficient I liked this post and moved on. Came back to brag about it, though. ;)

I used to put far more effort into reasons for not doing work than the work itself would have taken.

Phenomenal, really .

That depends seriously on their monthly expenses.

You've obviously not worked with people who don't bathe, groom or clean their living spaces. That's not efficiency; it's dysfunction.

It's also not laziness
- It isn't always due to mental illness or intellectual limitations. I've worked with people who simply didn't care about hygiene, grooming, or keeping up with their living spaces. Individuals who admitted themselves they were too lazy to put effort into things, and they were okay with that lifestyle.
  
  Their guardians, families and care facility staff weren't okay with it tho. Yes, it was severe dysfunction that is more than what someone normally thinks of with laziness. But there are people who simply are severely dysfunctionally lazy.
  
  I'm not referring in relation to mental illness, chronic fatigue syndrome, or cognitive limitations. This may not seem politically correct, but these people exist and you could ask anyone from my previous employer, or my past clients themselves.

Nobody's lazy, we're just reserving the best part of our time for ourselves.

According to studies, the human brain is hardwired to be lazy.

One of my first bosses noticed me doing a job in a particular laborish way when there were power tools available that would make it much easier. I remember him taking me aside and suggesting that it is better to use all the tools available if it makes the work easier. Better for me and better for him.

I have since become the boss and I often repeat similar advice to employees. I tell them I appreciate when they are working hard but I even appreciate it more when they work smarter but less hard. If there is a hole to dig, don't grab a shovel when there is an excavator nearby. I am more impressed by the work you get done and even more so if you do it with minimal labor.